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ChristianS

United States3196 Posts

2 hours ago

#105481

Okay, buddy. Never understood how everybody decided that Danglars was the bad faith one, honestly. But when they declare the opposition party a terrorist organization I’ll try to console myself that at least Mike Flynn is getting his retribution for being unfairly fired by *checks notes* Donald Trump for being an unregistered foreign advocate for Turkey or w/e.

EnDeR_

Spain2742 Posts

51 minutes ago

#105482

On September 26 2025 12:21 Introvert wrote:

I would say it's more a hope born of necessity. For reasons both ideological and cultural it can be harder for people on the left to countenance people who disagree with them very strongly but that's part of why I think it will take some great national struggle or disaster to return our government to better functioning. Things will have to be placed aside, on both left and right.

Could you explain a bit more about what you mean by "it's harder for people on the left to countenance people that disagree with them very strongly"?

Anecdotally, the two times I've had a conversation with someone heavily pro-Trump, even mild disagreement was taken as a personal offense that could not be countenanced. Neither time was a pleasant conversation.

Anecdotically, also, the couple times I've had a strong disagreement with someone who identifies as 'on the left', it was fairly amicable and we reached a point where we could understand where each of us was coming from. If you want to know, a specific example was about trans people on TV and how this was going to mess up his kids, another was about DEI implementation in the workplace.

Sent.

Poland9223 Posts

41 minutes ago

#105483

Lefties think conservative views on stuff like immigration, abortion or lgbt issues are oppressive and evil. Conservatives think lefties are overly permissive or naive and it's only their leaders who are evil. That's how I see it at least.

KT_Elwood

Germany1021 Posts

37 minutes ago

#105484

On September 19 2025 18:35 KT_Elwood wrote:
It's petty revenge.

Donald Trump is not only deeply insincere, a draft dodger, a business fraud, a tax dodger, paying for sex probably with teenagers... but is also a petty HOA-Karen that will kill your dog with a lawn mower if you have forgotten her 23rd anniverary in the neighbourhood.

And then claim the hispanic gardener did it to eat the dog.

But with James Comey

Magic Powers

Austria4372 Posts

22 minutes ago

#105485

Nothing Trump has done this year has faced criticism from any right-wingers around here. They didn't object when he originally and consistently rallied against Mexicans, they didn't object when he caused women to lose their abortion rights, they didn't object when he gave an overtly anti-LGBT speech in January in 2024. And they still don't say a peep about any of his orders this year. No criticism whatsoever, only playing defense, defense, defense. This is cult behavior.
It's exactly as I said, Trump's administration can move as far right as they want, his supporters will never accept that his politics are far too extreme to be tolerable. They're not even trying to both-sides it anymore - they're putting blame squarely on "the left" for being "too extreme", while Trump is literally destroying America. Their support for this fascist is unquestioning and they'll stick it out until the very bitter end.
The second Trump term is the second stage of a fascist takeover (removing opposition from powerful positions, silencing media and brutally persecuting minorities) and right-wingers are utterly blind to it. They're in complete denial, calling every criticism of this process "left-wing". They view themselves as moderates. As reasonable. The right-wing cult calls itself reasonable.
The USA's 1933 is already here and 1938 is approaching. Right-wingers won't see it when it happens, and they'll still deny it after it's all over.

Phyanketto

United States558 Posts

1 minute ago

#105486

On September 26 2025 16:48 Magic Powers wrote:
Nothing Trump has done this year has faced criticism from any right-wingers around here. They didn't object when he originally and consistently rallied against Mexicans, they didn't object when he caused women to lose their abortion rights, they didn't object when he gave an overtly anti-LGBT speech in January in 2024. And they still don't say a peep about any of his orders this year. No criticism whatsoever, only playing defense, defense, defense. This is cult behavior.
It's exactly as I said, Trump's administration can move as far right as they want, his supporters will never accept that his politics are far too extreme to be tolerable. They're not even trying to both-sides it anymore - they're putting blame squarely on "the left" for being "too extreme", while Trump is literally destroying America. Their support for this fascist is unquestioning and they'll stick it out until the very bitter end.
The second Trump term is the second stage of a fascist takeover (removing opposition from powerful positions, silencing media and brutally persecuting minorities) and right-wingers are utterly blind to it. They're in complete denial, calling every criticism of this process "left-wing". They view themselves as moderates. As reasonable. The right-wing cult calls itself reasonable.
The USA's 1933 is already here and 1938 is approaching. Right-wingers won't see it when it happens, and they'll still deny it after it's all over.

There are really two types of maga loyalists. The unironic racist/white nationalist type who only gets their news online and whose banner issue is that during 2008-16 they feel like they didn't get to participate in victim culture, and felt blamed, and the other type is the older people who are so digitally illiterate they would send their money to indonesia in the form of gift cards. If you really want to see why they're like this, borrow your mom or dad's phone and check out their scroll. Their algorithms are showing them the most blatant disinfo and they lap it up because they have no idea what digital legitimacy looks like. If they get their extremist rhetoric with a coat of cable news paint, they'll believe fucking anything.

On September 26 2025 15:03 ChristianS wrote:
Okay, buddy. Never understood how everybody decided that Danglars was the bad faith one, honestly. But when they declare the opposition party a terrorist organization I’ll try to console myself that at least Mike Flynn is getting his retribution for being unfairly fired by *checks notes* Donald Trump for being an unregistered foreign advocate for Turkey or w/e.

I appreciate the reference, even if it's a bit of a sad marker that nobody will know who you're talking about; that persiflage kitsch of yesteryear is considered high lit.