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On September 03 2025 22:37 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2025 17:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 03 2025 16:16 Doublemint wrote:The ‘self-inflicted injury’ to US tourism that’s making some Americans angry and disappointed@CNN by Natasha Chen
Joe Koenen has not seen a single Toronto Blue Jays baseball hat all summer.
Typically, Canadians will flood the streets of Seattle during the summer, but Koenen, who runs Seattle Free Walking Tours (where people pay what they can), said Canadian tourists are almost gone. Streets look emptier to him.
Canadians calling to cancel their tours “explicitly told me that it was because of the policies and the behavior of our current president,” he said.
As a result of seeing 30% fewer customers this year overall, Koenen has been paying his employees but not himself. This is also the first year since he took over the tour company in 2021 that he has had to put his own savings into the business to keep it afloat.
“I am super-duper angry. I’m also disappointed, but I’m more sad … it’s such a self-inflicted injury,” Koenen said.
Another Seattle tour operator, John Brink, said “usually you kill it that weekend,” referring to the annual May series between the Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners. But the foot traffic wasn’t there this year. The Blue Jays are Canada’s only Major League Baseball team, so while the team is based in Toronto, many fans from Western Canada passionately sport their Blue Jays gear when they come to Seattle each summer.
Brink’s company, Tasty Tours, which guides visitors through food stalls in the historic Pike Place Market, has seen a 50% drop in Canadian customers.
Many Canadians have boycotted taking US trips and buying American products since the spring. That’s when President Trump made false claims and belittling comments about Canada in the midst of a tariff war.
The absence of Canadians has been felt acutely in the United States, especially in cities like Seattle close to the northern border. And Canadians aren’t the only international travelers skipping the US. Some other international travelers have also named recent policies around tariffs and immigration as reasons they’re staying away.
After a promising estimate in December by analytics company Tourism Economics that the US would see about 9% growth in overall international visitation in 2025, the company’s updated outlook now estimates an 8.2% decline, led by about one quarter fewer Canadians visiting the US from January to July, compared to the same period in 2024.
The World Travel and Tourism Council, a global tourism advocacy organization, projected in May that the United States will lose $12.5 billion in international visitor spending in 2025, the only country out of 184 economies the council analyzed that will see a decline this year. well, can't be any clearer than that as to the how and why of the tourism decline - "the only country out of 184 economies the council analyzed." now that is an achievement. Yikes. I don't blame them, and I also don't blame any country that would start looking for alternative trade partners who could more reliably and predictably offer what the United States offers. Needing to rely on us when half the time we have a Republican president... that can't possibly instill confidence in trade or friendship. International tourists should have to pay thousands of dollars to enter state and national parks.
I love how reading your post is basically like going through the “ShitAmericanSays” page from Reddit.
Extra flavor that it’s the same person everytime.
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I'm not sure of the assumption that Europe is the global complement of the US which "mutual" means, or that a comparable number of US citizens visit Europe's national parks as the reverse. European countries could certainly ask Brussels for permission to raise the cost to visit their national parks, but realistically US citizens would be one of the main groups that could always afford it.
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On September 03 2025 23:50 oBlade wrote:
I'm not sure of the assumption that Europe is the global complement of the US which "mutual" means, or that a comparable number of US citizens visit Europe's national parks as the reverse. European countries could certainly ask Brussels for permission to raise the cost to visit their national parks, but realistically US citizens would be one of the main groups that could always afford it.
No thanks man, nature belongs to everyone. I’ll go enjoy my fjords while you try to find a way to make your country an even more miserable place.
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This has been the weirdest sidetrack in quite some time.
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On September 03 2025 23:53 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2025 23:50 oBlade wrote:
I'm not sure of the assumption that Europe is the global complement of the US which "mutual" means, or that a comparable number of US citizens visit Europe's national parks as the reverse. European countries could certainly ask Brussels for permission to raise the cost to visit their national parks, but realistically US citizens would be one of the main groups that could always afford it. No thanks man, nature belongs to everyone. I’ll go enjoy my fjords while you try to find a way to make your country an even more miserable place.
I was trying to save space on the page to reduce basic clutter, but if you want to edit out and change every single word of a post after I respond, I will be sure to explicitly quote from now on so there's no lingering confusion.
Don't "your" fjords... belong to everyone?
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On September 03 2025 23:59 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2025 23:53 Biff The Understudy wrote:On September 03 2025 23:50 oBlade wrote:
I'm not sure of the assumption that Europe is the global complement of the US which "mutual" means, or that a comparable number of US citizens visit Europe's national parks as the reverse. European countries could certainly ask Brussels for permission to raise the cost to visit their national parks, but realistically US citizens would be one of the main groups that could always afford it. No thanks man, nature belongs to everyone. I’ll go enjoy my fjords while you try to find a way to make your country an even more miserable place. I was trying to save space on the page to reduce basic clutter, but if you want to edit out and change every single word of a post after I respond, I will be sure to explicitly quote from now on so there's no lingering confusion. Don't "your" fjords... belong to everyone?
Yup including, me.
You are right, it’s just, i realized the futility of trying to make you see how awful your ideas are.
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On September 03 2025 22:54 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2025 22:40 Velr wrote:
I tought Trump tried to defund these anyway? So they will be gone soon if stuff goes according to plan anyway.
Yep, National Parks comprise over 50 million acres of federal land that are set to disappear from the face of the Earth within 4 years if Trump doesn't make payments on them. Luckily the National Guard is already funded and can protect the land from... whoever would make it "gone soon."
Are you pretending that he didn't previously state that he wanted to sell them to pay off the national debt or have you forgotten that he said that?
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Are there any issues that single-issue voters vote for Democrats? I don't know any.
On another note, I have watched enough af The Wire to know what tossing a plastic bag from a window means.
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On September 04 2025 01:05 Legan wrote:
Are there any issues that single-issue voters vote for Democrats? I don't know any.
On another note, I have watched enough af The Wire to know what tossing a plastic bag from a window means.
That was AI and none of the windows open at all so its impossible to have happened. /t
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On September 04 2025 01:05 Legan wrote:
Are there any issues that single-issue voters vote for Democrats? I don't know any.
On another note, I have watched enough af The Wire to know what tossing a plastic bag from a window means. A single issue that makes people vote for Democrats rather then Republicans?
Healthcare, social security, lgtbq+ rights, womens rights, freedom of religion, immigration, oh recently they added opposing fascism, that's always a good one.
Plain old Sanity would be one at this point.
Did you need more?
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On September 04 2025 01:27 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2025 01:05 Legan wrote:
Are there any issues that single-issue voters vote for Democrats? I don't know any.
On another note, I have watched enough af The Wire to know what tossing a plastic bag from a window means. A single issue that makes people vote for Democrats rather then Republicans? Healthcare, social security, lgtbq+ rights, womens rights, freedom of religion, immigration, oh recently they added opposing fascism, that's always a good one. Plain old Sanity would be one at this point. Did you need more?
All of those + the economy, climate change, and education.
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On September 03 2025 23:31 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2025 22:54 oBlade wrote:On September 03 2025 22:40 Velr wrote:
I tought Trump tried to defund these anyway? So they will be gone soon if stuff goes according to plan anyway.
Yep, National Parks comprise over 50 million acres of federal land that are set to disappear from the face of the Earth within 4 years if Trump doesn't make payments on them. Luckily the National Guard is already funded and can protect the land from... whoever would make it "gone soon." Not funding them is step one to privatizing and exploiting them. Drill baby drill, dig baby dig.
Plenty of billionaires would probably like to build a villa on top of El Capitan. Why would you not want that #progress?
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Bisutopia19351 Posts
On September 04 2025 01:05 Legan wrote:
Are there any issues that single-issue voters vote for Democrats? I don't know any.
If a Democrat ran on strict fiscal policies that put lower the National Debt over social issues, that'd definitely get my attention. So I guess a single issue being "National Debt" would have me covered. But, I certainly am willing to vote Democrat for more reasons then just that. I voted a mostly conservative ballot in the last election cycle, but did vote Kamala over Trump.
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I'm heavily sceptical of people actually voting for Democrats only because of their environmental policy, for example. Specifically, voting for Democrats instead of Republicans. Like how many people think that Democrats are wrong on immigration policy and lgbtq+ rights, but at the same time think that they are correct on addressing climate change and thus vote for them? If these people exist in mass, why are they not as well-known as the anti-abortion voters, for example?
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On September 04 2025 01:38 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2025 23:31 Velr wrote:On September 03 2025 22:54 oBlade wrote:On September 03 2025 22:40 Velr wrote:
I tought Trump tried to defund these anyway? So they will be gone soon if stuff goes according to plan anyway.
Yep, National Parks comprise over 50 million acres of federal land that are set to disappear from the face of the Earth within 4 years if Trump doesn't make payments on them. Luckily the National Guard is already funded and can protect the land from... whoever would make it "gone soon." Not funding them is step one to privatizing and exploiting them. Drill baby drill, dig baby dig. Plenty of billionaires would probably like to build a villa on top of El Capitan. Why would you not want that #progress?
more like a multi-billion$ doomsday bunker inside and/or under the mountain according to their faith in their own contributions to humanity and the way things progress.
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On September 04 2025 01:27 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2025 01:05 Legan wrote:
Are there any issues that single-issue voters vote for Democrats? I don't know any.
On another note, I have watched enough af The Wire to know what tossing a plastic bag from a window means. A single issue that makes people vote for Democrats rather then Republicans? Healthcare, social security, lgtbq+ rights, womens rights, freedom of religion, immigration, oh recently they added opposing fascism, that's always a good one. Plain old Sanity would be one at this point. Did you need more?
Don‘t know if they are advocates for economic and societal equality too. That‘d be a hot topic.
Trump‘s trying to manipulate central bank policy to further transfer wealth upwards while running crypto scams.
And we have reached a state where military violence against non-military targets is being normalized. Both in the US and in Israel.
It‘s like a bad dream where many Europeans are still asleep in a soporific trance.
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On September 04 2025 01:40 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2025 01:05 Legan wrote:
Are there any issues that single-issue voters vote for Democrats? I don't know any. If a Democrat ran on strict fiscal policies that put lower the National Debt over social issues, that'd definitely get my attention. So I guess a single issue being "National Debt" would have me covered. But, I certainly am willing to vote Democrat for more reasons then just that. I voted a mostly conservative ballot in the last election cycle, but did vote Kamala over Trump.
I don't know what "a mostly conservative ballot" means, but all federal Republicans except Rand Paul, Thom Tillis, Susan Collins, Brian Fitzpatrick, and Thomas Massie voted to explode the national debt by trillions.
On September 04 2025 01:51 Legan wrote:
I'm heavily sceptical of people actually voting for Democrats only because of their environmental policy, for example. Specifically, voting for Democrats instead of Republicans. Like how many people think that Democrats are wrong on immigration policy and lgbtq+ rights, but at the same time think that they are correct on addressing climate change and thus vote for them? If these people exist in mass, why are they not as well-known as the anti-abortion voters, for example?
Sorry, could you please clarify what you're talking about right now? I scrolled up through this thread and didn't see why you're talking about single-issue voting.
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Bisutopia19351 Posts
On September 04 2025 02:05 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2025 01:40 BisuDagger wrote:On September 04 2025 01:05 Legan wrote:
Are there any issues that single-issue voters vote for Democrats? I don't know any. If a Democrat ran on strict fiscal policies that put lower the National Debt over social issues, that'd definitely get my attention. So I guess a single issue being "National Debt" would have me covered. But, I certainly am willing to vote Democrat for more reasons then just that. I voted a mostly conservative ballot in the last election cycle, but did vote Kamala over Trump. I don't know what "a mostly conservative ballot" means, but all federal Republicans except Rand Paul, Thom Tillis, Susan Collins, Brian Fitzpatrick, and Thomas Massie voted to explode the national debt by trillions. Show nested quote +On September 04 2025 01:51 Legan wrote:
I'm heavily sceptical of people actually voting for Democrats only because of their environmental policy, for example. Specifically, voting for Democrats instead of Republicans. Like how many people think that Democrats are wrong on immigration policy and lgbtq+ rights, but at the same time think that they are correct on addressing climate change and thus vote for them? If these people exist in mass, why are they not as well-known as the anti-abortion voters, for example? Sorry, could you please clarify what you're talking about right now? I scrolled up through this thread and didn't see why you're talking about single-issue voting.
1. Sorry, could you please clarify what you're talking about right now? I scrolled up through this thread and didn't see why you're talking about single-issue voting.
It was in the person I replied to: "Are there any issues that single-issue voters vote for Democrats?"
I won't argue that most DC republicans are not fiscally conservative these days. We agree on that. But I can still vote for the more conservative candidate in each pool at the local, state, and federal level as best I can.
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They care about preserving the life of a fetus, so that way when it becomes a baby it can be killed by preventable diseases.
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