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Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland418 Posts
2 hours ago
#103481
Are D.C.'s street performers good at making protest songs? Maybe some bagpipes or posters warning about a felon with connections to Epstein.

If Trump is going to patrol the streets, then people should take the opportunity to make the situation as stupid as possible and undermine the stunt as best they can. Opposition should be capable of quick reactions at this point, really. However, I doubt that people are ready and organised.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23254 Posts
1 hour ago
#103482
On August 22 2025 00:26 LightSpectra wrote:
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On August 22 2025 00:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
I've been out of the loop for a bit, can someone explain to me why Texas Democrats gave in and returned so Republicans could do their gerrymandering for more seats?


Being a legislator in Texas only pays $6,200 a year (pre-tax), in addition to being fined $500 a day for absence. Most of them have full-time jobs and families they have to attend to when there isn't a legislative session.

The goal wasn't to indefinitely delay the Texas legislature (not feasible) but to draw national attention to the redistricting, which was highly successful.

Do you have a link to a story of the legislators saying they returned because staying gone was financially unsustainable for them despite the fundraising and the capacity of the national party to support them? Or is this just you speculating?

Seems like there isn't a specific "We're returning because..." from the party. Closest I could find was one saying they were doing this to let it pass and fight it in court instead. "We had to come home for the legal battle""

The problem with the rising tide of fascism isn't that people aren't aware it's happening. A big part of it is that the people they elected to fight it are satisfied with "drawing national attention" to Republicans/fascists mopping the floor with them and then forcing Democrat supporters call that "highly successful".

On August 22 2025 00:45 Zambrah wrote:
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On August 22 2025 00:33 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 22 2025 00:29 Zambrah wrote:
On August 22 2025 00:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
I've been out of the loop for a bit, can someone explain to me why Texas Democrats gave in and returned so Republicans could do their gerrymandering for more seats?


Hopefully because all of the Democrats in every blue state have agreed to redistrict aggressively to fuck over Republicans as hard as they can in the House


They have indeed. Their goal is to counter five seats with five of their own.

Another reason why they returned is because of aid for the flood victims. The Republicans prioritize victory over aid, but Democrats would like for aid to arrive, so the Democrats had a moral dilemma that the Republicans didn't.


Five for five is not what I was thinking of when I said redistrict aggressively lol, I was thinking every blue state with the power to redistrict every possible seat they can manage


It's not even a sure thing that Democrat voters in California will vote for openly gerrymandered redistricting since so many see the act itself (retaliatory or otherwise) as a threat to democracy.

Republicans also have several advantages if US democracy devolves entirely into gaming the redistricting. For example, since most Democrat run states have some sort of requirement for the voting public to approve such an action, while Republican states tend not to, it's easier for them to find the next 5 seats and the next 5 and so on.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23254 Posts
51 minutes ago
#103483
On August 22 2025 06:55 Legan wrote:
Are D.C.'s street performers good at making protest songs? Maybe some bagpipes or posters warning about a felon with connections to Epstein.

If Trump is going to patrol the streets, then people should take the opportunity to make the situation as stupid as possible and undermine the stunt as best they can. Opposition should be capable of quick reactions at this point, really. However, I doubt that people are ready and organised.

The party is leaderless/rudderless and insists on not rallying to the segment of their (increasingly failing) party that is actually popular beyond the party in the Bernie Sanders wing.

Meanwhile their voters have no idea what to do (besides mock and gawk while waiting to find out who they have to reluctantly/enthusiastically vote for as the lesser evil option) but they are all super sure it isn't getting organized and doing direct actions with socialists.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
36 minutes ago
#103484
I didn't get the impression that Legan was referring to the Democratic Party necessarily.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7315 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-21 23:23:19
34 minutes ago
#103485
On August 22 2025 06:55 Legan wrote:
Are D.C.'s street performers good at making protest songs? Maybe some bagpipes or posters warning about a felon with connections to Epstein.

If Trump is going to patrol the streets, then people should take the opportunity to make the situation as stupid as possible and undermine the stunt as best they can. Opposition should be capable of quick reactions at this point, really. However, I doubt that people are ready and organised.


DC doesnt really have street performers like NY does, DC is too sterile for that sort of thing. I genuinely cant remember a time Ive encountered one and Ive walked tens of miles through DC for funsies.

Some people have gotten together to like, bang pots and pans and stuff though, not a hugely meaningful act, but it seems like its at least bringing people in neighbors a bit more together which is potentially very meaningful.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23254 Posts
28 minutes ago
#103486
On August 22 2025 08:20 micronesia wrote:
I didn't get the impression that Legan was referring to the Democratic Party necessarily.

Probably not, they are just ostensibly the leaders that should be doing the organizing and whose supporters are supposed to be ready as THE "opposition" in a two-party system.

They're obviously failing in that role while their supporters continue their stockholm syndromesque rationalizations for continuing to support them, despite their clear failures in the face of the rise of fascism.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18829 Posts
14 minutes ago
#103487
On August 22 2025 08:22 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 06:55 Legan wrote:
Are D.C.'s street performers good at making protest songs? Maybe some bagpipes or posters warning about a felon with connections to Epstein.

If Trump is going to patrol the streets, then people should take the opportunity to make the situation as stupid as possible and undermine the stunt as best they can. Opposition should be capable of quick reactions at this point, really. However, I doubt that people are ready and organised.


DC doesnt really have street performers like NY does, DC is too sterile for that sort of thing. I genuinely cant remember a time Ive encountered one and Ive walked tens of miles through DC for funsies.

Some people have gotten together to like, bang pots and pans and stuff though, not a hugely meaningful act, but it seems like its at least bringing people in neighbors a bit more together which is potentially very meaningful.

Closest you get is like a dude poorly playing a saxophone at a Virginia or Maryland Metro station.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1551 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-21 23:44:54
12 minutes ago
#103488
On August 22 2025 08:22 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 06:55 Legan wrote:
Are D.C.'s street performers good at making protest songs? Maybe some bagpipes or posters warning about a felon with connections to Epstein.

If Trump is going to patrol the streets, then people should take the opportunity to make the situation as stupid as possible and undermine the stunt as best they can. Opposition should be capable of quick reactions at this point, really. However, I doubt that people are ready and organised.


DC doesnt really have street performers like NY does, DC is too sterile for that sort of thing. I genuinely cant remember a time Ive encountered one and Ive walked tens of miles through DC for funsies.

Some people have gotten together to like, bang pots and pans and stuff though, not a hugely meaningful act, but it seems like its at least bringing people in neighbors a bit more together which is potentially very meaningful.


DC metro stations have a lot of performers. When I go to work there's always this guy that plays classical music on the lute at Dupont Circle, dude's an absolute Chad tbh
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