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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4777 Posts
6 hours ago
#103521
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.


He's still in the country illegally. That hasn't changed and was always the basis of his deportation. Expecting an entire jury trial for a removal would be the joke.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 22:34:53
6 hours ago
#103522
Canada is removing most retaliatory tariffs against the USA. It'll be a big win once the LCBO opens back up their shelves to American products.

The anti-USA hate is waning. The Toronto BLue Jays are a 100% American product and the entire country is just gobbling up their pennant run. Every city the Blue Jays visit has thousands of Canadian fans at the games. The WNBA managed to sell out a full sized NBA arena in a regular season game in Canada.

Canadians loves "America's Past Time". They just can't help themselves. The Blue Jays were a much cooler team when they were distinctly un-American. Oh well. LOL.

Big Win for the USA today.
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.

meh, like most people who've lived around Toronto, Canada I have a few options in which country I can live. For me, and many hard working Canadians the USA is the best option. All these millions and millions of Albertans and Quebecers whining forever about separating from Canada and it'll prolly never happen. They can just leave for the USA.

Big Red Sox//Yankees game tonight!
USA! USA!.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4192 Posts
5 hours ago
#103523
On August 23 2025 07:06 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.


He's still in the country illegally. That hasn't changed and was always the basis of his deportation. Expecting an entire jury trial for a removal would be the joke.


These illegal immigrants literally get jury trials to receive visa extensions or citizenship to prevent being deported. That's the top spot where ICE generally abducts them nowadays.

Joke country.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4777 Posts
5 hours ago
#103524
On August 23 2025 07:40 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 07:06 Introvert wrote:
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.


He's still in the country illegally. That hasn't changed and was always the basis of his deportation. Expecting an entire jury trial for a removal would be the joke.


These illegal immigrants literally get jury trials to receive visa extensions or citizenship to prevent being deported. That's the top spot where ICE generally abducts them nowadays.

Joke country.


No? Immigration trials are before immigration judges which are article 2 judges (executive branch) not article 3 (judicial branch). At no point in American history had it been required to have a criminal jury trial to deport someone in the country illegally unless there was some other factor.

A joke is thinking that sneaking across the border entitles you to the delays, due process, and legal protections of the criminal system. It'd be overwhelmed instantly. Just imagine if eveyone who Biden, being derelict at the border, let in, had to have a full jury trial to be deported. It's rediculous and easy to see why.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1069 Posts
5 hours ago
#103525
On August 23 2025 07:06 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.


He's still in the country illegally. That hasn't changed and was always the basis of his deportation. Expecting an entire jury trial for a removal would be the joke.

What do you think the final price tag on this giant fuck up is going to be? And do not forget to add all the new legal costs from the civil suit he will most certainly win.

On August 23 2025 07:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Canada is removing most retaliatory tariffs against the USA. It'll be a big win once the LCBO opens back up their shelves to American products.

The anti-USA hate is waning. The Toronto BLue Jays are a 100% American product and the entire country is just gobbling up their pennant run. Every city the Blue Jays visit has thousands of Canadian fans at the games. The WNBA managed to sell out a full sized NBA arena in a regular season game in Canada.

Canadians loves "America's Past Time". They just can't help themselves. The Blue Jays were a much cooler team when they were distinctly un-American. Oh well. LOL.

Big Win for the USA today.
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.

meh, like most people who've lived around Toronto, Canada I have a few options in which country I can live. For me, and many hard working Canadians the USA is the best option. All these millions and millions of Albertans and Quebecers whining forever about separating from Canada and it'll prolly never happen. They can just leave for the USA.

Big Red Sox//Yankees game tonight!
USA! USA!.

I'm really mad at the less taxes I'm going to have pay. I sure wish I was down there with you so I could pay more so the ultra rich could pay less!
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4192 Posts
5 hours ago
#103526
On August 23 2025 07:52 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 07:40 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 07:06 Introvert wrote:
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.


He's still in the country illegally. That hasn't changed and was always the basis of his deportation. Expecting an entire jury trial for a removal would be the joke.


These illegal immigrants literally get jury trials to receive visa extensions or citizenship to prevent being deported. That's the top spot where ICE generally abducts them nowadays.

Joke country.


No? Immigration trials are before immigration judges which are article 2 judges (executive branch) not article 3 (judicial branch). At no point in American history had it been required to have a criminal jury trial to deport someone in the country illegally unless there was some other factor.

A joke is thinking that sneaking across the border entitles you to the delays, due process, and legal protections of the criminal system. It'd be overwhelmed instantly. Just imagine if eveyone who Biden, being derelict at the border, let in, had to have a full jury trial to be deported. It's rediculous and easy to see why.


Bruh. You brought up jury trials, not me. I thought you were talking about whatever regular trials they get summoned to. That's where ICE picks them up and abducts them. You know this.

Imagine being an illegal person in a country that you take nothing from. You respect the law, you work, you even pay taxes, you're better than the typical citizen. And yet you get treated like trash.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4777 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 23:46:47
4 hours ago
#103527
On August 23 2025 08:09 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 07:52 Introvert wrote:
On August 23 2025 07:40 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 07:06 Introvert wrote:
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.


He's still in the country illegally. That hasn't changed and was always the basis of his deportation. Expecting an entire jury trial for a removal would be the joke.


These illegal immigrants literally get jury trials to receive visa extensions or citizenship to prevent being deported. That's the top spot where ICE generally abducts them nowadays.

Joke country.


No? Immigration trials are before immigration judges which are article 2 judges (executive branch) not article 3 (judicial branch). At no point in American history had it been required to have a criminal jury trial to deport someone in the country illegally unless there was some other factor.

A joke is thinking that sneaking across the border entitles you to the delays, due process, and legal protections of the criminal system. It'd be overwhelmed instantly. Just imagine if eveyone who Biden, being derelict at the border, let in, had to have a full jury trial to be deported. It's rediculous and easy to see why.


Bruh. You brought up jury trials, not me. I thought you were talking about whatever regular trials they get summoned to. That's where ICE picks them up and abducts them. You know this.

Imagine being an illegal person in a country that you take nothing from. You respect the law, you work, you even pay taxes, you're better than the typical citizen. And yet you get treated like trash.


Well you said it was a joke he could be deported without a trial, but when we talked about this before I pointed out that he already had his normal immigration adjudication process and it was determined he could be deported. So I assumed you were talking about something else because otherwise what you said was just wrong.

Imagine being someone who broke American law, lives in the country illegally and thinks that you shouldn't be concerned about being deported at any moment. How many countries, that presumably are not jokes, even puts up with illegal immigration as much as the US does. I've asked before, but you claim to not be for open borders yet it's hard to find a policy you support that isn't effectively open borders.

On August 23 2025 08:09 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 07:06 Introvert wrote:
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.


He's still in the country illegally. That hasn't changed and was always the basis of his deportation. Expecting an entire jury trial for a removal would be the joke.

What do you think the final price tag on this giant fuck up is going to be? And do not forget to add all the new legal costs from the civil suit he will most certainly win.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 07:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Canada is removing most retaliatory tariffs against the USA. It'll be a big win once the LCBO opens back up their shelves to American products.

The anti-USA hate is waning. The Toronto BLue Jays are a 100% American product and the entire country is just gobbling up their pennant run. Every city the Blue Jays visit has thousands of Canadian fans at the games. The WNBA managed to sell out a full sized NBA arena in a regular season game in Canada.

Canadians loves "America's Past Time". They just can't help themselves. The Blue Jays were a much cooler team when they were distinctly un-American. Oh well. LOL.

Big Win for the USA today.
On August 23 2025 06:48 Magic Powers wrote:
On August 23 2025 04:14 LightSpectra wrote:
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free. Turns out MS Painting the words "MS-13" on a picture of someone isn't enough evidence to detain them indefinitely.


What's wild is that now he can be deported again without trial. Constitutionally. What a joke country.

meh, like most people who've lived around Toronto, Canada I have a few options in which country I can live. For me, and many hard working Canadians the USA is the best option. All these millions and millions of Albertans and Quebecers whining forever about separating from Canada and it'll prolly never happen. They can just leave for the USA.

Big Red Sox//Yankees game tonight!
USA! USA!.

I'm really mad at the less taxes I'm going to have pay. I sure wish I was down there with you so I could pay more so the ultra rich could pay less!


Im not as sure about his chances in the legal system as you are, but he should have been deported to somewhere he could legally be sent and that should have been the end of it.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1558 Posts
4 hours ago
#103528
On August 23 2025 07:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Canada is removing most retaliatory tariffs against the USA. It'll be a big win once the LCBO opens back up their shelves to American products.


It's on CUSMA complaint goods only after Trump surrendered on that.

The anti-USA hate is waning.


Not according to any metric I've seen.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
756 Posts
4 hours ago
#103529
On August 23 2025 00:51 KwarK wrote:
This is also a really funny example of conservative maths. It's basically a meme.


There is also ongoing meme for liberals math, as in: who is going to pay for all that
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7244 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-23 00:21:38
3 hours ago
#103530
On August 23 2025 09:12 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 00:51 KwarK wrote:
This is also a really funny example of conservative maths. It's basically a meme.


There is also ongoing meme for liberals math, as in: who is going to pay for all that



No one cares about paying for tax cuts. Why should liberals give a shit about paying for any of their stuff that would help actual people?



If we fixed healthcare pricing by negotiating as an entire block (country) and reduce prices we could pay for tons of shit.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
756 Posts
3 hours ago
#103531
On August 23 2025 09:21 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 09:12 Razyda wrote:
On August 23 2025 00:51 KwarK wrote:
This is also a really funny example of conservative maths. It's basically a meme.


There is also ongoing meme for liberals math, as in: who is going to pay for all that



No one cares about paying for tax cuts. Why should liberals give a shit about paying for any of their stuff that would help actual people?



If we fixed healthcare pricing by negotiating as an entire block (country) and reduce prices we could pay for tons of shit.


Because they also pay taxes? And they cant afford Kwark to make sure they dont overpaid? Dude there is ultimate truth for you: being poor is expensive.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25506 Posts
3 hours ago
#103532
On August 23 2025 08:55 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 07:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Canada is removing most retaliatory tariffs against the USA. It'll be a big win once the LCBO opens back up their shelves to American products.


It's on CUSMA complaint goods only after Trump surrendered on that.

Show nested quote +
The anti-USA hate is waning.


Not according to any metric I've seen.

You have to remember Jimmy just goes off pure vibes and his recollections of the 1980s
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42817 Posts
3 hours ago
#103533
On August 23 2025 09:12 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 00:51 KwarK wrote:
This is also a really funny example of conservative maths. It's basically a meme.


There is also ongoing meme for liberals math, as in: who is going to pay for all that

Liberals run much more balanced budgets than conservatives. Everyone knows that.
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