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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25387 Posts
3 hours ago
#102921
On August 09 2025 08:34 Gahlo wrote:
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On August 09 2025 07:48 WombaT wrote:
On August 09 2025 07:01 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
I’ve played Magic the Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons, both hobbies with a larger than usual player population of queer and trans individuals.

I can assure you that trans people don’t give a fuck if you accidentally misgender them and I have literally never seen anyone use any pronoun more unusual than they/them. They do fuck around with people who are openly malicious towards them.

Maybe Blackjack needs to hang with people who aren’t yanking his chain or hide his disgust for trans people better because it sounds like they're giving him shit.

Warhammer 40K too for, some reason. Disproportionate numbers of both trans folks, as well as mask off Neo-Fascists, ah well you win some you lose some.

I’ve always wondered about the former, there doesn’t seem any obvious reason for it. The latter makes a ton of sense, such types tend to gravitate to such media and completely miss the ‘it’s not supposed to be aspirational’ aspect. See also - Judge Dredd, the Punisher

Being an outcast tends to steer you in the direction of what other outcasts are doing. There's less reason to gatekeep in those communities, especially when it's something that requires other people to take part in it, because overly gatekeeping means there isn't one. It's really that simple.

Warhammer isn’t crazy huge, but equally it’s no longer niche enough to really be some haven for outcasts
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-08 23:47:12
3 hours ago
#102922
On August 09 2025 08:38 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2025 08:34 Gahlo wrote:
On August 09 2025 07:48 WombaT wrote:
On August 09 2025 07:01 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
I’ve played Magic the Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons, both hobbies with a larger than usual player population of queer and trans individuals.

I can assure you that trans people don’t give a fuck if you accidentally misgender them and I have literally never seen anyone use any pronoun more unusual than they/them. They do fuck around with people who are openly malicious towards them.

Maybe Blackjack needs to hang with people who aren’t yanking his chain or hide his disgust for trans people better because it sounds like they're giving him shit.

Warhammer 40K too for, some reason. Disproportionate numbers of both trans folks, as well as mask off Neo-Fascists, ah well you win some you lose some.

I’ve always wondered about the former, there doesn’t seem any obvious reason for it. The latter makes a ton of sense, such types tend to gravitate to such media and completely miss the ‘it’s not supposed to be aspirational’ aspect. See also - Judge Dredd, the Punisher

Being an outcast tends to steer you in the direction of what other outcasts are doing. There's less reason to gatekeep in those communities, especially when it's something that requires other people to take part in it, because overly gatekeeping means there isn't one. It's really that simple.

Warhammer isn’t crazy huge, but equally it’s no longer niche enough to really be some haven for outcasts

Warhammer got a lot bigger over the lockdown, at least over here, it hasn't had long outside of its niche status. Now there's more visibility on it and trans people are seeing that they're already represented in those communities, so there's less apprehension in joining.
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
734 Posts
2 hours ago
#102923
On August 09 2025 08:11 Acrofales wrote:
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On August 09 2025 08:04 Razyda wrote:
This is massive win for Trump:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/guaranteeing-fair-banking-for-all-americans/

"Within 180 days of the date of this order, each appropriate Federal banking regulator shall, to the greatest extent permitted by law, remove the use of reputation risk or equivalent concepts that could result in politicized or unlawful debanking, as well as any other considerations that could be used to engage in such debanking, from their guidance documents, manuals, and other materials (other than existing regulations or other materials requiring notice-and-comment rulemaking) used to regulate or examine financial institutions over which they have jurisdiction."


It's an executive order. How is the president signing an executive order a massive win for himself? I mean... didn't the massive win happen last year when he won the election to become president and do this kinda thing?

In addition, it just doesn't seem like a big deal. But I'm sure Nigel Farage will be delighted.


"How is the president signing an executive order a massive win for himself?" - because this one will be very popular.

"In addition, it just doesn't seem like a big deal." - It is. As of now bank account is pretty much essential utility (like water for example). Usually best test is to think "what would I think if it was happening other way around?" So what would you say if Trump strongarm banks into debanking people for liberal views?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42700 Posts
1 hour ago
#102924
On August 09 2025 08:11 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2025 08:04 Razyda wrote:
This is massive win for Trump:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/guaranteeing-fair-banking-for-all-americans/

"Within 180 days of the date of this order, each appropriate Federal banking regulator shall, to the greatest extent permitted by law, remove the use of reputation risk or equivalent concepts that could result in politicized or unlawful debanking, as well as any other considerations that could be used to engage in such debanking, from their guidance documents, manuals, and other materials (other than existing regulations or other materials requiring notice-and-comment rulemaking) used to regulate or examine financial institutions over which they have jurisdiction."


It's an executive order. How is the president signing an executive order a massive win for himself? I mean... didn't the massive win happen last year when he won the election to become president and do this kinda thing?

In addition, it just doesn't seem like a big deal. But I'm sure Nigel Farage will be delighted.

It identifies as a massive win.
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1483 Posts
1 hour ago
#102925
On August 09 2025 09:06 Razyda wrote:
So what would you say if Trump strongarm banks into debanking people for liberal views?


Like what he's doing to universities?
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25387 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-09 01:38:39
1 hour ago
#102926
On August 09 2025 10:22 LightSpectra wrote:
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On August 09 2025 09:06 Razyda wrote:
So what would you say if Trump strongarm banks into debanking people for liberal views?


Like what he's doing to universities?

Lol, lmao.

Look you’ve got increased freedom to host genuinely reprehensible shit, so it’s freedom. Protest against Israel I mean, nah shit’s not cool fam. But that’s fair, it’s anti-Semitic

I personally think it’s great that Mastercard could potentially be obligated to keep Stormfront running, I mean freedom of speech doesn’t at all encompass freedom to wilfully associate.

It’s great, Trump’s bringing freedom of speech back!

/s /s /s /s

Bunch of fucking clowns, supported by even bigger fucking clowns.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10513 Posts
28 minutes ago
#102927
If only there was someone that was warning people for years while Biden was leaning on social media sites to ban anti-vaxxers or Trudeau was freezing the bank accounts of protestors that, "you're not going to like it when the other side is back in the white house."
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1029 Posts
16 minutes ago
#102928
On August 09 2025 11:21 BlackJack wrote:
If only there was someone that was warning people for years while Biden was leaning on social media sites to ban anti-vaxxers or Trudeau was freezing the bank accounts of protestors that, "you're not going to like it when the other side is back in the white house."

Freezing them was much less of a punishment than enforcing the law. It was made into some massive deal by your media. They were wildly unpopular people in Ottawa, this is why Poilievre lost his long term conservative riding in Ottawa. Instead of protesting, they blocked all streets so the local businesses already hurting from covid lost all their revenue. Many shutdown due to it.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25387 Posts
9 minutes ago
#102929
On August 09 2025 11:21 BlackJack wrote:
If only there was someone that was warning people for years while Biden was leaning on social media sites to ban anti-vaxxers or Trudeau was freezing the bank accounts of protestors that, "you're not going to like it when the other side is back in the white house."

If only.

I do vaguely recall someone saying such things at the time, but when the shoe was on the other foot thinks crazy leftists complaining about Sydney Sweeney is more worthy of comment than like, all that other stuff.

‘Hey I was right about x, but I show no inkling to actually give a shit about x’ really isn’t the flex you think it is

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10513 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-09 02:44:45
6 minutes ago
#102930
On August 09 2025 11:40 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2025 11:21 BlackJack wrote:
If only there was someone that was warning people for years while Biden was leaning on social media sites to ban anti-vaxxers or Trudeau was freezing the bank accounts of protestors that, "you're not going to like it when the other side is back in the white house."

If only.

I do vaguely recall someone saying such things at the time, but when the shoe was on the other foot thinks crazy leftists complaining about Sydney Sweeney is more worthy of comment than like, all that other stuff.

‘Hey I was right about x, but I show no inkling to actually give a shit about x’ really isn’t the flex you think it is



Show me the defenders of Trump targeting universities over supposed anti-semitic speech and I will go after them. They don't exist here. Just because I don't like to have imaginary arguments against hypothetical conservatives that don't visit this site doesn't mean I don't give a shit about X.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42700 Posts
3 minutes ago
#102931
I particularly like the idea that Trump and conservatives wouldn’t be doing this if it wasn’t for X. As if their entire political ideology wasn’t using state power to punish those they perceive as a threat to their institutional power. As if there’s some new level they could sink to that they previously had too much integrity to resort to.
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