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Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1088 Posts
August 01 2025 18:49 GMT
#102681
From what I can gather, China forced MS to give them their own custom version of windows that basically doesn't phone home at all, plus, they have their own cloud services, which is what I'm talking about when I mention Amazon, not the e-commerce platform but AWS.

Cloud services are the big one, the US companies are making a killing hosting, selling and using all of the data they are charging us to host, reducing this reliance can only be a good thing and I don't really see an argument against that.

Jailbroken Apple devices have been a thing since iPhones were a thing and China has a very healthy smartphone ecosystem, I don't think that Apple has anywhere as close as a firm grip on them technologically as you are trying to imply.

In any case, compared to EU, China is very much ready and able to stop using all of this if need be.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1950 Posts
August 01 2025 19:29 GMT
#102682
If Amazon stopped aws today and all the American competitors withdrew also, my company would not notice. Cloud services are the buzzword for more then s decade but as long as you don't have a startup or an extremely generic need, most managers come into the company, waste a ton of money for the process to get all services into the cloud and along the way realize that it's neither easy nor cheap. Docker! Agile! Devops! Am I already getting a million as bonus?

Important software was run by companies before cloud was a thing and they have legacy data centers that cannot simply be scrapped. Online services, apps and all that end customer stuff might look different but honestly data centers in the EU work and could be extended. The bigger problem would probably getting all the hardware without American companies.

In short, of course suddenly losing all services from the us would be an incredible shock for the European consumer market. But we survived before without cell phones. As long as we had the dedication and no easy way back, we would overcome that. But it certainly would not be pretty.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22156 Posts
August 01 2025 21:12 GMT
#102683
It‘s not like US cloud services can‘t be replaced by competitors in for example a bunch of Asian countries I could think of…

At this point the customer can choose which country they’d rather want to steal and use their data for commercial purposes.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18199 Posts
August 01 2025 21:25 GMT
#102684
Tbf, if Google, Amazon, MS and even IBM pulled their cloud services from Europe, the datacenters would still be there. The data would still be there. Someone would take them over. All manner of proprietary services would end, obviously. But most are either open source or have open source alternatives, which wouldn't be hard to turn into managed services. It wouldn't be super easy or fast, and a bunch of EU companies would struggle or maybe go bankrupt. But it wouldn't be great for those US companies either: Europe is a huge market.

Unsurprisingly if two of the three largest economic blocks in the world start a trade war with each other, the world economy will go boom, hurting everybody.
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
896 Posts
August 02 2025 02:38 GMT
#102685
I dont think people understand fallout occurring in this case. Multinational corporations suddenly cant actually communicate, because a lot of those use google or Microsoft, no more chat no more team speak, no more emails because most of them are either gmail or outlook, how do you even communicate new procedures? Add to this people at large, suddenly loosing emails, youtube, app stores, FB, list goes on...

It is easy to someone in IT sector to say "We will switch to Linux" meanwhile call centers are dead, files on gdrive are gone and non IT companies are pretty much done.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1950 Posts
August 02 2025 07:02 GMT
#102686
Have you actually worked in IT? There is no month in my company that not someone wants to switch some tool for another. Of course those switches are never super easy and fast but if they have to, suddenly those changes can happen very quickly. Of course the fallout from microsoft somehow disabling all licenses would be enormous. Linux exists but the rollout to get Linux on each laptop without being allowed to start the OS on those laptops would be enormous because offline support has been dialed down, and then you have a user base that has to look at tutorials for every step. But basically every tool has multiple somewhat equivalent open source alternatives and as long as they can be distributed within several weeks work will continue. It's really like you are forgetting that just 25 years ago, the internet was something entirely different and people used land lines.

And let's talk for a second about the sceanrio here.

1) The EU announces it will tax internet services that have so far never been taxed in the EU before. Microsoft and google, to use as examples, stand to lose let's say 15% of their profits.
2) Google and Microsoft announce that they will leave the EU if that happens.
3) The EU does it anyway.
4) Google and Microsoft completely disable all their internet services for the EU.
5) Chaos.

So now you are saying, that the EU will now come crawling back, bolish the tax and ask Google and Microsoft to come back pretty please.

Fine.

How many people do you think will immediately and forever move to other platforms then those they just lost temporarily in the EU? Like, just out of fucking spite, out of self preservation, out of having found a better tool?

Do you really think a terroristic attack by companies on this scale would not immensely backfire for companies that are entirely driven by greed? That enjoy a near monopoly as long as they just let people live in a world where it is unthinkable that there are actual alternatives, because someone would have to put soooome effort in to switch?

I'd say 5 years after this noone in the EU is using any services by Google and Microsoft anymore.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5746 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-02 09:12:09
August 02 2025 09:10 GMT
#102687
On August 02 2025 16:02 Broetchenholer wrote:
Have you actually worked in IT? There is no month in my company that not someone wants to switch some tool for another. Of course those switches are never super easy and fast but if they have to, suddenly those changes can happen very quickly. Of course the fallout from microsoft somehow disabling all licenses would be enormous. Linux exists but the rollout to get Linux on each laptop without being allowed to start the OS on those laptops would be enormous because offline support has been dialed down, and then you have a user base that has to look at tutorials for every step. But basically every tool has multiple somewhat equivalent open source alternatives and as long as they can be distributed within several weeks work will continue. It's really like you are forgetting that just 25 years ago, the internet was something entirely different and people used land lines.

And let's talk for a second about the sceanrio here.

1) The EU announces it will tax internet services that have so far never been taxed in the EU before. Microsoft and google, to use as examples, stand to lose let's say 15% of their profits.
2) Google and Microsoft announce that they will leave the EU if that happens.
3) The EU does it anyway.
4) Google and Microsoft completely disable all their internet services for the EU.
5) Chaos.

So now you are saying, that the EU will now come crawling back, bolish the tax and ask Google and Microsoft to come back pretty please.

Fine.

How many people do you think will immediately and forever move to other platforms then those they just lost temporarily in the EU? Like, just out of fucking spite, out of self preservation, out of having found a better tool?

Do you really think a terroristic attack by companies on this scale would not immensely backfire for companies that are entirely driven by greed? That enjoy a near monopoly as long as they just let people live in a world where it is unthinkable that there are actual alternatives, because someone would have to put soooome effort in to switch?

I'd say 5 years after this noone in the EU is using any services by Google and Microsoft anymore.

To expand on what you said, the EU wouldn't introduce the tax overnight. There would be a period of weeks/months before the law comes into effect. There are two possible scenarios in that case: (A) the American corporations retaliate immediately after the tax is passed, burning their bridges, or (B) they react only after the tax comes into effect. In the first case, there would be no coming back. In the second case, European companies/governments would have a substantial transition period to prepare for any retaliation.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22065 Posts
August 02 2025 09:48 GMT
#102688
So with the head of the bureau of labor statistics being fired for reporting the real job numbers rather then the fake ones previous estimated (May’s estimated 144,000 net gain was revised down by 125,000 to 19,000; and June’s preliminary tally of 147,000 was slashed by 133,000 to 14,000)

How are we feeling about that projected 3% growth being anywhere near accurate?...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8696 Posts
August 02 2025 11:01 GMT
#102689
On August 02 2025 18:48 Gorsameth wrote:
So with the head of the bureau of labor statistics being fired for reporting the real job numbers rather then the fake ones previous estimated (May’s estimated 144,000 net gain was revised down by 125,000 to 19,000; and June’s preliminary tally of 147,000 was slashed by 133,000 to 14,000)

How are we feeling about that projected 3% growth being anywhere near accurate?...


funnily enough, it just seems an escalation to what has already been going on.

How reliable is the government's economic data? Under Trump, there are real concerns - NPR in march 2025.

Every month, the federal government serves up a steady diet of economic reports on everything from the price of groceries to the unemployment rate. These reports are closely followed: They can move markets — and the president's approval rating.

Businesses and investors put a lot of stock in the numbers, which are rigorously vetted and free from political spin.

Now the Trump administration is calling that trust into question.

he government recently disbanded two outside advisory committees that used to consult on the numbers, offering suggestions on ways to improve the reliability of the government data.

At the same time, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has suggested changing the way the broadest measure of the economy — gross domestic product — is calculated.

Those moves are raising concerns about whether economic data could be manipulated for political or other purposes.

Among those raising the alarm is Erica Groshen. She's one of the outside experts who received a terse email last week saying her services were no longer needed, because the committee she'd served on — the Federal Economic Statistics Advisory Committee — had been folded.

Groshen cares deeply about the reliability of government data, having previously overseen the number crunching as commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

"Statistical agencies live and die by trust," she says. "If the numbers aren't trustworthy, people won't use them to make important decisions, and then you might as well not publish them."


I mean they might as well try to control the message - on how or why and especially how much people make with their money and labor...

what's one more for these criminally insane, spoiled sleazebags? only it's about as pointless as pissing against the wind... and the damage will be consequential. just as in all other areas where these children run rampant breaking stuff they will dearly miss once it is gone.

can we now openly say the US has reached the Roman decadence phase of empire?

"We are proud to announce that the construction of the new White House ballroom will begin. For 150 years, presidents, administrations and White House staff have longed for a large event space on the White House complex that can hold substantially more guests than currently allowed," she told reporters.


how have they coped all those years without it? laughing stock of the world!? imagine how easily the US would have won the cold war were that Ball room + Trump a thing in the WH.

just as easily as when Trump did a thing with tariffs - and totally won and others paid for it. and ez peace in Ukraine and with Russia. and released the Epstein files... where he totally is not in them... and if he is it was a plant by Obama. and Hillary. and sleepy Joe.

and The FBI Redacted Trump’s Name in the Epstein Files - a hoax like that whole Epstein hoax, believe me people.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22156 Posts
August 02 2025 11:07 GMT
#102690
On August 02 2025 18:48 Gorsameth wrote:
So with the head of the bureau of labor statistics being fired for reporting the real job numbers rather then the fake ones previous estimated (May’s estimated 144,000 net gain was revised down by 125,000 to 19,000; and June’s preliminary tally of 147,000 was slashed by 133,000 to 14,000)

How are we feeling about that projected 3% growth being anywhere near accurate?...


That was a comic book villain tier move from him lol.
It‘s like smashing the monitor because the pc isn‘t working.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5020 Posts
August 02 2025 11:26 GMT
#102691
Last I'll say off topic (EU digital infrastructure): if we're smart we've already set up a task force to estimate the timeline and to get a rough architecture of implementations that are needed. Also already make some fundamental stuff.
Software and hardware is not my specialty so I don't know if we'd need an independent os, or if we could all use Linux based stuff, but I guess we have some untangling to do at least. Don't know how difficult that would be honestly. How jaded programmers will be because of this tabula rasa.
Taxes are for Terrans
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17212 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-02 12:36:33
August 02 2025 12:31 GMT
#102692
if the WNBA wants to make more money they need to relax and let the fans have their fun.
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/45883108/sex-toy-tossed-wnba-court-game-chicago

The WNBA getting all worked up about this is silly. the first time it happened the commentator wouldn't even say what was going on and they threw a fan out. The course of Kevin Durant's career is irrevocably altered and we get slo mo replays of his achilles tendon snapping from the bone. Joe Theisman has his leg snapped in half and we get 10 angles of the break. Eric Lindros career ends as his head bounces off the ice and we get 40 instant replays along with hours of analysis. The WNBA broadcasts won't show a dildo? LOL.

The WNBA is taking itself too seriously.

1 dildo? check this out. THousands of rats. Absolute, silly, stupid fun. Along with a few real live rats.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22065 Posts
August 02 2025 12:36 GMT
#102693
On August 02 2025 21:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if the WNBA wants to make more money they need to relax and let the fans have their fun.
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/45883108/sex-toy-tossed-wnba-court-game-chicago

The WNBA getting all worked up about this is silly. the first time it happened the commentator wouldn't even say what was going on and they threw a fan out. Joe Theisman has his leg snapped in half and we get 10 angles of the break. Eric Lindros career ends as his head bounces off the ice and we get 40 instant replays along with hours of analysis. The WNBA broadcasts won't show a dildo? LOL.

The WNBA is taking itself too seriously.
No its not the WNBA, its America.

You can show as much blood and gore as you want, but you can't curse and the country loses its mind over a nip slip.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17212 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-02 12:55:02
August 02 2025 12:37 GMT
#102694
On August 02 2025 21:36 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2025 21:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if the WNBA wants to make more money they need to relax and let the fans have their fun.
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/45883108/sex-toy-tossed-wnba-court-game-chicago

The WNBA getting all worked up about this is silly. the first time it happened the commentator wouldn't even say what was going on and they threw a fan out. Joe Theisman has his leg snapped in half and we get 10 angles of the break. Eric Lindros career ends as his head bounces off the ice and we get 40 instant replays along with hours of analysis. The WNBA broadcasts won't show a dildo? LOL.

The WNBA is taking itself too seriously.
No its not the WNBA, its America.

You can show as much blood and gore as you want, but you can't curse and the country loses its mind over a nip slip.

nah, the WNBA take itself too seriously.
they also freaked out about a wig. the commentator won't say what happens. it is a "malefunction".


Regarding the dildo: the same thing would happen at the Air Canada Centre or Bank Vault or whatever its called in TOronto. The WNBA will be getting a Canadian team that plays in several different Canadian cities and it'll be the exact same attitude. So its not just an America thing.

Its hilarious they are constantly throwing fans out for dumb reasons. A fan "made fun of her" LOL so kick the fan out. They assumed the fan was male... of course.

10,000 rats get thrown on the ice and nothing happens. the WNBA throws people out for making fun of a player.

Again, the WNBA takes itself too seriously. Kevin Durant's achilles tendon snaps and the game plays on.. the WNBA stops mid-play due to a wig being knocked off. When a player loses their shoe the game plays on. LOL.

The link is a HEADLINE story on ESPN.com. WTF?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45237 Posts
August 02 2025 12:57 GMT
#102695
On August 02 2025 21:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if the WNBA wants to make more money they need to relax and let the fans have their fun.
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/45883108/sex-toy-tossed-wnba-court-game-chicago

The WNBA getting all worked up about this is silly. the first time it happened the commentator wouldn't even say what was going on and they threw a fan out.
The course of Kevin Durant's career is irrevocably altered and we get slo mo replays of his achilles tendon snapping from the bone. Joe Theisman has his leg snapped in half and we get 10 angles of the break. Eric Lindros career ends as his head bounces off the ice and we get 40 instant replays along with hours of analysis. The WNBA broadcasts won't show a dildo? LOL.

The WNBA is taking itself too seriously.

1 dildo? check this out. THousands of rats. Absolute, silly, stupid fun. Along with a few real live rats.


According to your source, someone from the crowd threw a sex object onto the court, the game was paused for a moment so that the object could be removed, and that was pretty much it. You said that the fan asshole who threw it got removed from the game too, which sounds completely appropriate. Is that it? Or is there something else? Doesn't seem like anything happened to warrant your sexist settle-down-girls-and-just-let-misogynists-have-a-little-fun-by-disrupting-your-sport take, especially when your source also said that it's been happening multiple times across multiple games. A few players have correctly called those actions "immature".
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1088 Posts
August 02 2025 14:57 GMT
#102696
On August 02 2025 20:26 Uldridge wrote:
Last I'll say off topic (EU digital infrastructure): if we're smart we've already set up a task force to estimate the timeline and to get a rough architecture of implementations that are needed. Also already make some fundamental stuff.
Software and hardware is not my specialty so I don't know if we'd need an independent os, or if we could all use Linux based stuff, but I guess we have some untangling to do at least. Don't know how difficult that would be honestly. How jaded programmers will be because of this tabula rasa.


The OS architecture is not that problematic anymore, the barriers got whittled down quite a bit over the years and Linux is now integrated directly into Windows.

Mac OS and Linux share even more similarities.

There are open source alternatives to everything now days, especially when it comes to Server infrastructure and if you want to be good at your job as a Systems administrator in either Windows or Linux you have to have pretty good understanding of the one you aren't specialized in.

This is why I think it's pretty crazy that EU didn't do any of the things you mentioned, instead going the direction of treating the situation as if we are completely helpless without these tech giants, again, I think this is because of corruption more then anything else.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22156 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-02 15:33:42
August 02 2025 15:22 GMT
#102697
The US was usually seen as a reliable partner up until 2019.
Then it started shifting into a sort of collective inferiority complex while still being one of the wealthiest countries on earth, nominally (per capita is another issue).

That is to say that it doesn‘t have to be a corruption issue for entrusting digital infrastructure to them. It‘s an internal issue because their domestic policy isn‘t really exemplary which led to an angry population voting for angry people.

Maybe there were some legitimate issues like a feeling that immigration was handled poorly but I don‘t think they‘d have expected the new government to deliver broadsides in unexpected areas.

‚Vote us to fix x‘

Tries to fix x using harsh immigration policy.
Breaks y. Tariffs.
Breaks z. Trust.
And so on.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 02 2025 17:10 GMT
#102698
On August 02 2025 21:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2025 21:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if the WNBA wants to make more money they need to relax and let the fans have their fun.
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/45883108/sex-toy-tossed-wnba-court-game-chicago

The WNBA getting all worked up about this is silly. the first time it happened the commentator wouldn't even say what was going on and they threw a fan out.
The course of Kevin Durant's career is irrevocably altered and we get slo mo replays of his achilles tendon snapping from the bone. Joe Theisman has his leg snapped in half and we get 10 angles of the break. Eric Lindros career ends as his head bounces off the ice and we get 40 instant replays along with hours of analysis. The WNBA broadcasts won't show a dildo? LOL.

The WNBA is taking itself too seriously.

1 dildo? check this out. THousands of rats. Absolute, silly, stupid fun. Along with a few real live rats.


According to your source, someone from the crowd threw a sex object onto the court, the game was paused for a moment so that the object could be removed, and that was pretty much it. You said that the fan asshole who threw it got removed from the game too, which sounds completely appropriate. Is that it? Or is there something else? Doesn't seem like anything happened to warrant your sexist settle-down-girls-and-just-let-misogynists-have-a-little-fun-by-disrupting-your-sport take, especially when your source also said that it's been happening multiple times across multiple games. A few players have correctly called those actions "immature".


Jimmy is not sexist in this post. His take has nothing to do with them being women. He would have the same take if it were the NBA. He has previously argued that throwing beer at professional athletes should be “part of the game.”

On December 12 2017 00:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 00:02 vult wrote:
As a Jags fan, it's disgraceful what the fans did, but had Jefferson taken 3 more steps into the tunnel it'd have been over.

meh, if someone throws a plastic cup filled with liquid 40 feet and hits a guy its no biggie... i recall during pro wrestling's "Monday Night Wars" it was part of the show. Hollywood Hogan would get pelted with at least 20 harmless objects every Monday night. Somehow he lived.


As the saying goes, don’t attribute malice to something that can be explained by stupidity.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
August 02 2025 17:13 GMT
#102699
On August 02 2025 21:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2025 21:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if the WNBA wants to make more money they need to relax and let the fans have their fun.
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/45883108/sex-toy-tossed-wnba-court-game-chicago

The WNBA getting all worked up about this is silly. the first time it happened the commentator wouldn't even say what was going on and they threw a fan out.
The course of Kevin Durant's career is irrevocably altered and we get slo mo replays of his achilles tendon snapping from the bone. Joe Theisman has his leg snapped in half and we get 10 angles of the break. Eric Lindros career ends as his head bounces off the ice and we get 40 instant replays along with hours of analysis. The WNBA broadcasts won't show a dildo? LOL.

The WNBA is taking itself too seriously.

1 dildo? check this out. THousands of rats. Absolute, silly, stupid fun. Along with a few real live rats.


According to your source, someone from the crowd threw a sex object onto the court, the game was paused for a moment so that the object could be removed, and that was pretty much it. You said that the fan asshole who threw it got removed from the game too, which sounds completely appropriate. Is that it? Or is there something else? Doesn't seem like anything happened to warrant your sexist settle-down-girls-and-just-let-misogynists-have-a-little-fun-by-disrupting-your-sport take, especially when your source also said that it's been happening multiple times across multiple games. A few players have correctly called those actions "immature".

This is Jimmy’s world, we’re just living in it
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22065 Posts
August 02 2025 17:24 GMT
#102700
"We should normalize abuse" really is... a take...

No, we should not accept it.
Yes, people doing it should be removed.
Whether is dildo's or plastic cups, empty or full.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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