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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10499 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-05 08:07:47
June 05 2025 08:01 GMT
#99841
On June 05 2025 16:37 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2025 15:56 BlackJack wrote:
The conversation started when someone accused GreenHorizons of buying into Trump's propaganda of Kamala being a "DEI hire" for saying she was a shitty candidate that failed upwards. Let's not lose the plot that GH is the real racist here.


No, you don't get to turn this back on GH. He has one instance of this, you've done this countless times.

We can criticize GH, you on the other hand have some self-reflection to do. Start criticizing the Republican party dammit. You're always chastizing the Democrat party because they're not literally perfect angels. It's time you start attacking the real culprit of racism and sexism in America instead of deflecting towards the political party that is trying to actually do something about it. Whether or not they always succeed or they can make further improvements are different questions. At least they try, and you're wrong for chastising them for trying.


I was being sarcastic. Accusing GH of falling for racist propaganda because he criticized Kamala is absurd. Dems need a new schtick because calling people X-ists for offering any resistance to them is getting tired.

But to address your other point... In my state (California) there is a law that bans discrimination on the basis of race, sex, ethnicity, etc. A couple election cycles ago there was a proposition on the ballot to repeal this law which would allow for discrimination on the basis of race, sex, ethnicity, etc. Exactly which side do you want me to be on here? The side that keeps the ban on discrimination or the side that lifts the ban on discrimination? Can you guess which side the Republicans were on and which side the Democrats were on?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21683 Posts
June 05 2025 08:45 GMT
#99842
Its ironic really.
The right complains about DEI and uses it as a means to call someone incompetent, because the us apparently is not big enough to have non-white/women who are just as competent as the white male candidates.

Meanwhile Trumps administration is filled with utterly incompetent white males whose only defining characteristic is being a white male loyal to Trump.

As so very very often the right is guilty of the very thing the are complaining about.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8514 Posts
June 05 2025 09:06 GMT
#99843
On June 05 2025 15:56 BlackJack wrote:
The conversation started when someone accused GreenHorizons of buying into Trump's propaganda of Kamala being a "DEI hire" for saying she was a shitty candidate that failed upwards. Let's not lose the plot that GH is the real racist here.


thanks for that, keeps me from having to read every single post for the last couple pages.

I kinda get your concern trolling here. as the Ds or more D adjacent posters here are seemingly unaware that besides "doing the right" thing by doing DEI and giving minorities more positive attention - compared to Trump and ICE currently with the negative attention... there is a simple matter at the heart of this discussion I feel like.

Trump is just the perfect candidate for our time compared to someone like Kamala Harris. what do I mean by that? he currently represents the R party and his family basically runs it. she said "we are not going back" - he takes the country back by force. whether you like it or not. and even a lot of Rs are not happy with the ride they paid for or start having doubts.

she obviously lost the general, did reasonably well in CA and as VP. competence wise I would put her way above Mr. Trump.

the problem is it is a political contest - who has the charisma and endlessly messages effectively to grab voters by the issues they care about. how truthful those messages are is... secondary or even tertiary in this regard unfortunately - as long as you are in the office at the end of the day.

there too is a funny distinction between the two - he is a born liar and con man, a loose cannon when it comes to anything "expert". which is perfect as it turns out when campaigning - people are tired of the same PR bullshit answers from the same think tanks that tell your average citizen "how you have to feel because line goes up" or "great jobs report" or "inflation down".

they might be right of course as it is their job to know those things - but if they miss the forest for the trees... they are not very helpful. as is the media that for the most part regurgitates those points. and in US fashion either blames Team Blue or Team Red depending on who is in power and who they "message for" let's say...

Kamala went the "safe and tested" PR route. we know how that turned out. which fits Trump only too well as he tears into it with gusto. and even if he lies his ass off, people feel the Kamala PR route is less authentic. and they are right to feel this way. a liar "honest about it" is better than an honest man/woman trying to tell you something that they only half-heartedly believe in... just as a principle - not the reality of the situation.

to come back to the original point, add in GH feeling tokenized - to some extent definitely valid - and just politics being a dirty game and you get disillusioned young(ish) people.

funny thing is - while ranting about DEI, Rs went the "DUI" route. so many drunkards and - at best - semi qualified persons or TV personalities with close to no or negative credentials... give me a break really with "affirmative action ruining the country" or DEI... oh wait I forgot - the new R cabinet are for the most part white so balance has been restored...

hogwash of the highest order really. both parties are trapped here in their own logic deciding who gets to "advance". most of the time it is the controllable loyalist. just look at the Trump cabinet when they convene.

"thank you for being POTUS" they start with on live TV lol. where is that whole "no kings and tyrants" Republican grit I keep hearing about? don't you see that such cultish devotion is a precursor to something way, way worse?

US politics might be a lot of things. it's never boring I tell you.

Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4098 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-05 10:02:46
June 05 2025 10:02 GMT
#99844
On June 05 2025 17:01 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2025 16:37 Magic Powers wrote:
On June 05 2025 15:56 BlackJack wrote:
The conversation started when someone accused GreenHorizons of buying into Trump's propaganda of Kamala being a "DEI hire" for saying she was a shitty candidate that failed upwards. Let's not lose the plot that GH is the real racist here.


No, you don't get to turn this back on GH. He has one instance of this, you've done this countless times.

We can criticize GH, you on the other hand have some self-reflection to do. Start criticizing the Republican party dammit. You're always chastizing the Democrat party because they're not literally perfect angels. It's time you start attacking the real culprit of racism and sexism in America instead of deflecting towards the political party that is trying to actually do something about it. Whether or not they always succeed or they can make further improvements are different questions. At least they try, and you're wrong for chastising them for trying.


I was being sarcastic. Accusing GH of falling for racist propaganda because he criticized Kamala is absurd. Dems need a new schtick because calling people X-ists for offering any resistance to them is getting tired.

But to address your other point... In my state (California) there is a law that bans discrimination on the basis of race, sex, ethnicity, etc. A couple election cycles ago there was a proposition on the ballot to repeal this law which would allow for discrimination on the basis of race, sex, ethnicity, etc. Exactly which side do you want me to be on here? The side that keeps the ban on discrimination or the side that lifts the ban on discrimination? Can you guess which side the Republicans were on and which side the Democrats were on?


You're deflecting. You've been consistently painting Kamala's rise to a higher position as discrimination based on race and gender, when in reality it is the exact opposite of that. The Democrat party is made up of a varied mix of individuals from different backgrounds precisely for this reason. They understand that there is a bias and they combat the bias. That is not discrimination, it is literally the opposite of discrimination. The bias causes discrimination. The Republican party does not acknowledge its bias. The Democrat party acknowledges their bias and does things to prevent it. You criticize exclusively the Democrat party for this kind of behavior, never the Republican party, and there's nothing about your actions telling me you're on the right side of the racism and sexism debate.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia637 Posts
June 05 2025 10:14 GMT
#99845
Jesus christ, first it was leftist Nazis, then it was Cory Booker Nazi salute, now it's DEI Kamala, it's like a buffet of culture war nonsense.

Next up, woke transgender student athletes, drag queen story hour and critical race theory, come on down!
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
June 05 2025 10:15 GMT
#99846
On June 05 2025 17:45 Gorsameth wrote:
Its ironic really.
The right complains about DEI and uses it as a means to call someone incompetent, because the us apparently is not big enough to have non-white/women who are just as competent as the white male candidates.

Meanwhile Trumps administration is filled with utterly incompetent white males whose only defining characteristic is being a white male loyal to Trump.

As so very very often the right is guilty of the very thing the are complaining about.


Yes, its really obvious to everyone that the complaints about DEI are not about making things fair, but making things even more unfairly tilted to white men.
They complain about DEI in games every single time there's a black guy or a gay guy.
Complaining about DEI is functionally the same as removing DEI from the equation completely and just complaining that there's a black guy/gay guy/ woman being interviewed for a job.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8514 Posts
June 05 2025 10:33 GMT
#99847
On June 05 2025 19:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2025 17:45 Gorsameth wrote:
Its ironic really.
The right complains about DEI and uses it as a means to call someone incompetent, because the us apparently is not big enough to have non-white/women who are just as competent as the white male candidates.

Meanwhile Trumps administration is filled with utterly incompetent white males whose only defining characteristic is being a white male loyal to Trump.

As so very very often the right is guilty of the very thing the are complaining about.


Yes, its really obvious to everyone that the complaints about DEI are not about making things fair, but making things even more unfairly tilted to white men.
They complain about DEI in games every single time there's a black guy or a gay guy.
Complaining about DEI is functionally the same as removing DEI from the equation completely and just complaining that there's a black guy/gay guy/ woman being interviewed for a job.


to add another point to the DEI saga.

MTG says she hates the bill. the bill she voted for btw. great job there. voting for a bill without reading it. maybe she hopes people in the Senate can read what an abomination of a bill it is so they send it back.

if those are the people in charge of critical votes... give me not the DEI candidates - let's go further.

I would rather have "the black welfare queen" (I am aware its a myth...). at least she can read and knows how to manage a household budget. as being poor means you have to spend your money wisely and all that good stuff.


GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23229 Posts
June 05 2025 11:49 GMT
#99848
On June 05 2025 19:14 Jankisa wrote:
Jesus christ, first it was leftist Nazis, then it was Cory Booker Nazi salute, now it's DEI Kamala, it's like a buffet of culture war nonsense.

Next up, woke transgender student athletes, drag queen story hour and critical race theory, come on down!


I'm honestly surprised we haven't had a few pages about California Track and Field...yet.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25318 Posts
June 05 2025 12:45 GMT
#99849
On June 05 2025 19:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2025 17:45 Gorsameth wrote:
Its ironic really.
The right complains about DEI and uses it as a means to call someone incompetent, because the us apparently is not big enough to have non-white/women who are just as competent as the white male candidates.

Meanwhile Trumps administration is filled with utterly incompetent white males whose only defining characteristic is being a white male loyal to Trump.

As so very very often the right is guilty of the very thing the are complaining about.


Yes, its really obvious to everyone that the complaints about DEI are not about making things fair, but making things even more unfairly tilted to white men.
They complain about DEI in games every single time there's a black guy or a gay guy.
Complaining about DEI is functionally the same as removing DEI from the equation completely and just complaining that there's a black guy/gay guy/ woman being interviewed for a job.

Which is deeply fucking irritating at best, clearly bigoted at worst.

Amongst people who aren’t terminally online fucktards, I do think many who rail against DEI aren’t doing from a place of wanting to game things for us white blokes to be fair. Either:

1. Society already meritocratic and blind to things like colour, sex etc. Or, if not, as meritocratic as it’s realistic to get. Where disparities exist, it’s down for various other factors and not say, societal discrimination.
2. The ‘poison is worse than the cure’ crowd. Acknowledge that there are these problems, but that overt discrimination and how it impacts the individual is not the path to fixing other, more covert forms of discrimination or unpacking those that are really culturally ingrained, sometimes unconsciously.

I think 1 is a, tbh pretty ridiculous position to hold, although frequently it’s not held maliciously. I’d imagine the core psychology is ‘I’m in x group, I have what I have. If I accept that people in group y have a harder time on average, I have to accept that my station is possibly elevated, even slightly, and not by my own merits. I don’t like that idea, ergo that phenomenon doesn’t exist.’

It’s definitely at the heart of a real hostility in some quarters to say, the idea of white privilege. One doesn’t have to get crucified to bear the sins of white privilege, which some seem to think is the demand, just be aware of it.

It’s the difference between Rich Kid A who flat out denies they owe any of their achievements to the leg up that gives you, versus Rich Kid B who’s still proud of their achievements, but thankful for the head start they got that not everyone else gets.

Group 2, I think is more reasonable, but for me it’s a case of principles on paper outweighing principles in actual practice too much. I think some of these critiques on attempts at redressare valid, but no real alternatives are put forward all that often. Say the house on our street is burning down. One might think that me trying to tackle it with a water pistol is ineffective, or they might believe that I’m throwing petrol on it (the ‘everyone is obsessed with identity politics and it’s making things worse’ angle). Ok fine, some reasonable critiques of my firefighting abilities perhaps. From my perspective I have some skepticism that your plan to just sit back and maybe the fire will go out by itself also has some quite big holes in it.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia637 Posts
June 05 2025 12:53 GMT
#99850
It's going to be fascinating to see how all this plays out.

It seems like Taco Don's magic is slowly fading, his enforcer Elon switched teams and is no longer bullying Republicans into submission and finally politics as (not quite) usual is returning to the Capitol hill.

And all this is happening with the backdrop of 90 days pause expiring, failed negotiations with China and consequences of Trump's dumb trade wars. My industry which is not even that US reliant has seen basically halt of all investments, everyone's afraid to borrow, everyone's afraid to invest, no one knows what's going to happen next.

The emperor has no clothes and people are starting to notice, more importantly, republicans are, let's see how much dissent they are able to muster and let's see how Trumpistan reacts, I have a feeling it ain't going to be pretty.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
June 05 2025 13:38 GMT
#99851
On June 05 2025 21:45 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2025 19:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 05 2025 17:45 Gorsameth wrote:
Its ironic really.
The right complains about DEI and uses it as a means to call someone incompetent, because the us apparently is not big enough to have non-white/women who are just as competent as the white male candidates.

Meanwhile Trumps administration is filled with utterly incompetent white males whose only defining characteristic is being a white male loyal to Trump.

As so very very often the right is guilty of the very thing the are complaining about.


Yes, its really obvious to everyone that the complaints about DEI are not about making things fair, but making things even more unfairly tilted to white men.
They complain about DEI in games every single time there's a black guy or a gay guy.
Complaining about DEI is functionally the same as removing DEI from the equation completely and just complaining that there's a black guy/gay guy/ woman being interviewed for a job.

Which is deeply fucking irritating at best, clearly bigoted at worst.

Amongst people who aren’t terminally online fucktards, I do think many who rail against DEI aren’t doing from a place of wanting to game things for us white blokes to be fair. Either:

1. Society already meritocratic and blind to things like colour, sex etc. Or, if not, as meritocratic as it’s realistic to get. Where disparities exist, it’s down for various other factors and not say, societal discrimination.
2. The ‘poison is worse than the cure’ crowd. Acknowledge that there are these problems, but that overt discrimination and how it impacts the individual is not the path to fixing other, more covert forms of discrimination or unpacking those that are really culturally ingrained, sometimes unconsciously.

I think 1 is a, tbh pretty ridiculous position to hold, although frequently it’s not held maliciously. I’d imagine the core psychology is ‘I’m in x group, I have what I have. If I accept that people in group y have a harder time on average, I have to accept that my station is possibly elevated, even slightly, and not by my own merits. I don’t like that idea, ergo that phenomenon doesn’t exist.’

It’s definitely at the heart of a real hostility in some quarters to say, the idea of white privilege. One doesn’t have to get crucified to bear the sins of white privilege, which some seem to think is the demand, just be aware of it.

It’s the difference between Rich Kid A who flat out denies they owe any of their achievements to the leg up that gives you, versus Rich Kid B who’s still proud of their achievements, but thankful for the head start they got that not everyone else gets.

Group 2, I think is more reasonable, but for me it’s a case of principles on paper outweighing principles in actual practice too much. I think some of these critiques on attempts at redressare valid, but no real alternatives are put forward all that often. Say the house on our street is burning down. One might think that me trying to tackle it with a water pistol is ineffective, or they might believe that I’m throwing petrol on it (the ‘everyone is obsessed with identity politics and it’s making things worse’ angle). Ok fine, some reasonable critiques of my firefighting abilities perhaps. From my perspective I have some skepticism that your plan to just sit back and maybe the fire will go out by itself also has some quite big holes in it.



The problem with discussing this in the context of US politics is that according to all those involved, the whole culture war is a zero sum game with zero flexibility in outcomes.
Either the white guys win, or the black guys win. Repeat for every minority vs the white guys. If something improves for a minority, anyone who isn't a part of that minority complains as if its made life impossible for them, even if it has little to no actual effect on their life.
Its all 'us or them', and at no point does 'us' mean all of us.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
June 05 2025 13:46 GMT
#99852
On June 04 2025 17:06 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2025 10:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 04 2025 06:33 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On June 03 2025 23:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 03 2025 23:15 Razyda wrote:
On June 03 2025 21:31 WombaT wrote:
On June 03 2025 20:09 Razyda wrote:
On June 03 2025 19:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 03 2025 19:57 Razyda wrote:
On June 03 2025 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
[quote]

This isn't true.
The context is, the week after his NAZI SALUTE, ELon Musk posted 14 American flags at 14:!4 ina blatantly obvious reference to Hitler's 14 words, so revered by Nazis the world over.

That is the context, and it provides background which allows you to easily see that this is the kind of guy who would do a Nazi salute, which he definitely did.

You can ignore that context and keep pretending it doesn't exist if you like, but it makes your argument look incredibly weak and petty.


Remind me please (I may be wrong), but did Musk condemnation here started right after he performed nazi salute, or only week after, when he did 14 flags staff?


I dunno, probably straight away.

In this discussion right now though, the context is there, so if that condemnation began right away, Musk went on to prove those people right, and arguing now that it wasn't a Nazi Salute is arguing something that has already been proven wrong.



Yeah, but if the condemnation of Musk started right away and Booker not, then that is double standard.

On June 03 2025 19:36 KwarK wrote:
Leftists can't be Nazis.


Yes they can.

There are two general layers of context here, and in general.

The first difference is the first layer of context here. What happened in the footage, and does it accurately represent the event itself?

For example, if I said ‘I don’t use the word nigger, I think it’s a profoundly ugly word’, and someone who was filming me, stuck it online, and only showed the bolded section, that would be taking me out of context by selectively reversing the sentiment of what I said.

The second layer is, if the thing happened, why? What are the various other factors that explain what was going on. These may 100% end up open to interpretation anyway, or disagreement, they may not.

For example a footballer in the UK was getting a lot of shit for having a tattoo of a gun, and for glorifying gang violence etc. The reality was they got that tattoo in memory of a family member (possibly father) who was killed by gun violence.


So, circling back to this, and hypocrisy, or otherwise.
1. Via the first conception of context, Musk did the K-Pop salute, Booker did not. You can watch a long cut of Musk, he does the K-Pop salute. Booker does not, it only looks that way if you cut the footage early.

2. It doesn’t matter what Booker’s reasons are for doing a K-Pop salute, if he didn’t do it in the first place. With Musk, people’s reads are different from him just trolling, to him being a full-on Nazi, and various spots in between there.



"if you cut the footage early." I've seen rest of it. About half step of the podium his rather rapid turn. kind of makes me think, this was the moment he knew.

On June 03 2025 21:15 Billyboy wrote:
On June 03 2025 20:09 Razyda wrote:
On June 03 2025 19:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 03 2025 19:57 Razyda wrote:
On June 03 2025 19:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
[quote]

This isn't true.
The context is, the week after his NAZI SALUTE, ELon Musk posted 14 American flags at 14:!4 ina blatantly obvious reference to Hitler's 14 words, so revered by Nazis the world over.

That is the context, and it provides background which allows you to easily see that this is the kind of guy who would do a Nazi salute, which he definitely did.

You can ignore that context and keep pretending it doesn't exist if you like, but it makes your argument look incredibly weak and petty.


Remind me please (I may be wrong), but did Musk condemnation here started right after he performed nazi salute, or only week after, when he did 14 flags staff?


I dunno, probably straight away.

In this discussion right now though, the context is there, so if that condemnation began right away, Musk went on to prove those people right, and arguing now that it wasn't a Nazi Salute is arguing something that has already been proven wrong.



Yeah, but if the condemnation of Musk started right away and Booker not, then that is double standard.

On June 03 2025 19:36 KwarK wrote:
Leftists can't be Nazis.


Yes they can.

Just take the L and call them Stalinists going forward, it is as bad and not automatically wrong.

As per the Booker thing, it has exploded on facebook from the Musk lovers here. There is some similarities, which makes sense since that was Musks excuse. The big differences are that musk has his fingers tight (like the Nazi salute), he does it with more aggression (like the Nazi salute) and the the big one, that made his excuse so laughable, was that he turned and repeated it showing all that it was not an accident.


"Just take the L and call them Stalinists going forward, it is as bad and not automatically wrong."

Why would I do that? Have you seen 25 points of nsdap? It seems very much like socialism (admittedly race based rather, than class based)


Here are the 25 Nazi points you're referencing: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-party-platform

Which ones "seem very much like socialism", and why? Are you talking about something like "9. All citizens shall have equal rights and duties"? Because I don't think that's what most people have issues with, when it comes to Nazis. I think a cause for concern would be something like "4. Only members of the nation may be citizens of the State. Only those of German blood, whatever their creed, may be members of the nation. Accordingly, no Jew may be a member of the nation." This isn't what socialists generally believe though. And there's also, like, the Holocaust.


Eh, there are a fair amount of the ones that come after 11 that could belong to a socialist party's program. 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 20, 21 are like, yeah absolutely, 17 and 18 contextually.


Totally agree, though as I said before, those aren't the problematic areas (and neither is having a moustache). I had posed that question to him to see if he would be capable of answering it (he was not capable of answering it). He found some innocuous overlaps, and then asserted that the terrible parts that are Nazi-specific ought to also be attributed to socialists too, and that Nazis = socialists. In fact, he's still doubling (tripling? quadrupling? quintupling?) down on that nonsense. I'm unsure as to why he's trying to follow in the footsteps of oBlade - implode and turn himself into a pariah.

Sucks about my Stockton Rush level implosion, I wish I could keep it all together like the people who spend their free time on literal Qanon level analysis of the exact number of American flags a man who loves Israel posts on Twitter because it's super important to show that's a secret Nazi amount of flags, just like putting your fingers together vs. not putting your fingers together is the secret ingredient of a Sieg Heil. Except when a Nazi's fingers aren't together it's just because they forgot or are intentionally trying to muddy the waters somehow.

I'm just pulling this up to show what oBlade thinks of people who actually look at the details before coming to a conclusion, instead of coming to a conclusion and then constructing an argument and inventing some evidence to fit the conclusion
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42685 Posts
June 05 2025 13:56 GMT
#99853
The idea that white nationalists would use some sort of transparent code to identify themselves and signal their beliefs is absurd, assuming you know absolutely nothing about white nationalists. At a certain point with oblade we should stop assuming he’s as stupid as he pretends to be (Elon musk K-pop) and start assuming he has some other motivation for always backing the Nazis.
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5585 Posts
June 05 2025 14:15 GMT
#99854
On June 05 2025 17:45 Gorsameth wrote:
Its ironic really.
The right complains about DEI and uses it as a means to call someone incompetent, because the us apparently is not big enough to have non-white/women who are just as competent as the white male candidates.

Just as competent as the "boring" old incompetent white males? This is progressivism? "We're equally incompetent, but every color of the rainbow!"

What a joke.

That worked once. Okay, you can draw out the electorate with the messianic pied piper of Obama. But the electorate can't be duped but so many times. Trying to grasp onto power by putting up an neverending ladder of increasingly obscure minority firsts is an exceptionally boneheaded strategy. You know what's diverse enough for DEI supporters? Nothing, because their existence depends on perpetual grift.

On June 05 2025 17:45 Gorsameth wrote:
Meanwhile Trumps administration is filled with utterly incompetent white males whose only defining characteristic is being a white male loyal to Trump.

As so very very often the right is guilty of the very thing the are complaining about.

You don't know enough to be able to distinguish a competent person doing things you don't like and an incompetent person.

Trump's administrations have been filled with people who are white, black, straight, gay, Hispanic, Jewish, Asian, men, and women. He has the first WH Chief of Staff to be a woman. Democrats don't care, because he's a Republican. Normal people don't care because we're adults.

So many people telling on themselves. You are projecting your own racialism onto my country when you assume that a white person's presence somewhere must be causally related to them being white in some way, because race is the center of your world. What the fuck is the train of thought that gets someone to such an absurd perspective? "This person is white, hmm... so they aren't black... so they must not have been hired for being black... so they must have been hired for being white! Of course!" JD Vance offered VP for being "a white male loyal to Trump." No. For them seeing eye to eye on most issues and Trump believing he can trust him and respects his input. Your race bullshit should have stayed on the elementary school playground.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42685 Posts
June 05 2025 14:24 GMT
#99855
Lol no. Nobody cares more about race than the perpetually triggered conservatives weeping to themselves about black mermaids.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
June 05 2025 14:34 GMT
#99856
On June 05 2025 23:24 KwarK wrote:
Lol no. Nobody cares more about race than the perpetually triggered conservatives weeping to themselves about black mermaids.

The 800,000 hours of videos on youtube featuring middle aged white men talking 'seriously' about The Little Mermaid is one of the most ridiculous things the human race has ever done.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25318 Posts
June 05 2025 15:02 GMT
#99857
On June 05 2025 22:56 KwarK wrote:
The idea that white nationalists would use some sort of transparent code to identify themselves and signal their beliefs is absurd, assuming you know absolutely nothing about white nationalists. At a certain point with oblade we should stop assuming he’s as stupid as he pretends to be (Elon musk K-pop) and start assuming he has some other motivation for always backing the Nazis.

For the 88th time, I’m telling you that white nationalists have no kind of identifying signals or symbols they use to subversively signal to each other!

Anyone could tell you that, in 14 words or less. Even if they did exist, I’m sure they’d be so opaque and clever that nobody who isn’t a white nationalist could possibly figure them out.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25318 Posts
June 05 2025 15:03 GMT
#99858
On June 05 2025 23:34 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2025 23:24 KwarK wrote:
Lol no. Nobody cares more about race than the perpetually triggered conservatives weeping to themselves about black mermaids.

The 800,000 hours of videos on youtube featuring middle aged white men talking 'seriously' about The Little Mermaid is one of the most ridiculous things the human race has ever done.

Even by itself it’s ridiculous, that said individuals claim other folks are the sensitive snowflakes is what pushes it into Human Preposterousness Hall of Fame territory
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
June 05 2025 15:10 GMT
#99859
The ascii code for x is also 88, the pot culture 420 Elon demanded for each tesla share is also hitler's birthday, and he is named after the leader of a Martian super-civilization in a book written by Werner Braun.
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1461 Posts
June 05 2025 15:14 GMT
#99860
On June 05 2025 23:15 oBlade wrote:
You don't know enough to be able to distinguish a competent person doing things you don't like and an incompetent person.


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