• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:36
CEST 13:36
KST 20:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch0Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D Soulkey on ASL S20 BW General Discussion NaDa's Body
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1987 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4226

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4224 4225 4226 4227 4228 5241 Next
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.


If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23296 Posts
June 26 2024 21:04 GMT
#84501
On June 25 2024 09:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:

It looks like both Biden and Trump are still planning on having their debate in 3 days (June 27th, 9 PM Eastern time). + Show Spoiler +
I'm not expecting much from either of them, and I wouldn't be surprised if the second debate (September 10th) doesn't happen for whatever reason.

This Thursday's debate will be 90 minutes long, with 2 commercial breaks, with CNN anchors Jake Tapper and Dana Bash as moderators. There are two interesting adjustments to this debate - no live studio audience, and microphones will be muted unless it's a candidate's turn to speak. I think those two adjustments hurt Trump more than they hurt Biden, as I think Trump really thrives on audience energy and he endlessly interrupts his opponents.
Depending on how physically far apart Biden and Trump will be standing/sitting, I wonder if Biden would still be distracted if Trump keeps talking even when his mic is muted. ( https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/st-biden-trump-debate-watch/story?id=111253724 )

They are going to be 8 feet apart, so Biden's definitely going to hear him. Feels like a bit of an oversight by the Biden team.

CNN's got the budget to use whatever microphones they want, so it'll be audible at their discretion. Fair to assume they'll still record Trump's mic while it's muted and use any juicy bits to bring people back to CNN for post-debate coverage.

I could see them just letting everyone run with an inexplicable Biden fumble that suddenly makes more sense with Trump's audio the next day too.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44602 Posts
June 26 2024 21:28 GMT
#84502
On June 27 2024 06:04 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2024 09:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:

It looks like both Biden and Trump are still planning on having their debate in 3 days (June 27th, 9 PM Eastern time). + Show Spoiler +
I'm not expecting much from either of them, and I wouldn't be surprised if the second debate (September 10th) doesn't happen for whatever reason.

This Thursday's debate will be 90 minutes long, with 2 commercial breaks, with CNN anchors Jake Tapper and Dana Bash as moderators. There are two interesting adjustments to this debate - no live studio audience, and microphones will be muted unless it's a candidate's turn to speak. I think those two adjustments hurt Trump more than they hurt Biden, as I think Trump really thrives on audience energy and he endlessly interrupts his opponents.
Depending on how physically far apart Biden and Trump will be standing/sitting, I wonder if Biden would still be distracted if Trump keeps talking even when his mic is muted. ( https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/st-biden-trump-debate-watch/story?id=111253724 )

They are going to be 8 feet apart, so Biden's definitely going to hear him. Feels like a bit of an oversight by the Biden team.

CNN's got the budget to use whatever microphones they want, so it'll be audible at their discretion. Fair to assume they'll still record Trump's mic while it's muted and use any juicy bits to bring people back to CNN for post-debate coverage.

I could see them just letting everyone run with an inexplicable Biden fumble that suddenly makes more sense with Trump's audio the next day too.


Thank you for the additional information!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 26 2024 21:53 GMT
#84503
Nah Trump can’t get into Biden’s head. Biden is his kryptonitr

https://youtube.com/shorts/S80iKh1Ar_c?si=xQC1NTYbqW6tXOci
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28689 Posts
June 26 2024 22:01 GMT
#84504
I mean Trump has said that he might intentionally lose the debate (to avoid democrats deciding to replace Biden) so let's see how it goes.
Moderator
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23296 Posts
June 26 2024 23:31 GMT
#84505
On June 27 2024 07:01 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I mean Trump has said that he might intentionally lose the debate (to avoid democrats deciding to replace Biden) so let's see how it goes.

I feel like the only way for it not to be shameful is measuring Biden and Trump against each other rather than pretty much any other president or western nations leader.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
June 27 2024 00:45 GMT
#84506
On June 27 2024 08:31 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2024 07:01 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I mean Trump has said that he might intentionally lose the debate (to avoid democrats deciding to replace Biden) so let's see how it goes.

I feel like the only way for it not to be shameful is measuring Biden and Trump against each other rather than pretty much any other president or western nations leader.

What are your thoughts on Macron right now?
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 27 2024 00:58 GMT
#84507
San Francisco had a Democratic primary debate for mayor and one candidate hit another with an absolute banger of a gotcha question, “can you name 3 drag queens in San Francisco?” Apparently this daft lad couldn’t name any drag queens in the last debate either so she gave him an opportunity to redeem himself.



The lady asking the question is the incumbent candidate Mayor London Breed. I assume she won the last election by being able to name more drag queens than anybody else.

Imagine living in the worst run city in the US and everything is going to shit and the candidates for mayor are arguing over who can make more drag queens as if that’s a major qualification to fix SF’s problem. Stay woke, my friends.
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
799 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-27 01:04:35
June 27 2024 01:02 GMT
#84508
Supreme Court rejects claim White House limited free speech on social media

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c6lw1qzwlp2t

"The Supreme Court has rejected a case claiming the Biden administration illegally coerced social media platforms into taking down posts about Covid-19 and the 2020 election that were considered misinformation."


On June 27 2024 08:31 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2024 07:01 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I mean Trump has said that he might intentionally lose the debate (to avoid democrats deciding to replace Biden) so let's see how it goes.

I feel like the only way for it not to be shameful is measuring Biden and Trump against each other rather than pretty much any other president or western nations leader.


You do know you have Canada right there north?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44602 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-27 01:14:09
June 27 2024 01:13 GMT
#84509
On June 27 2024 09:58 BlackJack wrote:
San Francisco had a Democratic primary debate for mayor and one candidate hit another with an absolute banger of a gotcha question, “can you name 3 drag queens in San Francisco?” Apparently this daft lad couldn’t name any drag queens in the last debate either so she gave him an opportunity to redeem himself.

https://youtu.be/rMcnR8B1FBM?si=JljKKRk6gv_Br4Jq

The lady asking the question is the incumbent candidate Mayor London Breed. I assume she won the last election by being able to name more drag queens than anybody else.

Imagine living in the worst run city in the US and everything is going to shit and the candidates for mayor are arguing over who can make more drag queens as if that’s a major qualification to fix SF’s problem. Stay woke, my friends.


It appears that naming LGBTQ+ advisors and listing drag queens they've spoken to were ways to challenge each other over just how pro-LGBTQ+ they are, which might be reasonable questions / litmus tests within the narrow context of trying to figure out if someone is truly pro-LGBTQ+ or not even caring enough to reach out to someone within that demographic.

This is just a two-minute clip, so I have no way of knowing if this was what the entire debate about. I would hope that plenty of other SF-related topics and questions were also addressed.

Out of curiosity, how do you qualify/quantify San Francisco being the "worst run city in the US"? Just curious.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 27 2024 01:34 GMT
#84510
On June 27 2024 10:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2024 09:58 BlackJack wrote:
San Francisco had a Democratic primary debate for mayor and one candidate hit another with an absolute banger of a gotcha question, “can you name 3 drag queens in San Francisco?” Apparently this daft lad couldn’t name any drag queens in the last debate either so she gave him an opportunity to redeem himself.

https://youtu.be/rMcnR8B1FBM?si=JljKKRk6gv_Br4Jq

The lady asking the question is the incumbent candidate Mayor London Breed. I assume she won the last election by being able to name more drag queens than anybody else.

Imagine living in the worst run city in the US and everything is going to shit and the candidates for mayor are arguing over who can make more drag queens as if that’s a major qualification to fix SF’s problem. Stay woke, my friends.


It appears that naming LGBTQ+ advisors and listing drag queens they've spoken to were ways to challenge each other over just how pro-LGBTQ+ they are, which might be reasonable questions / litmus tests within the narrow context of trying to figure out if someone is truly pro-LGBTQ+ or not even caring enough to reach out to someone within that demographic.

This is just a two-minute clip, so I have no way of knowing if this was what the entire debate about. I would hope that plenty of other SF-related topics and questions were also addressed.

Out of curiosity, how do you qualify/quantify San Francisco being the "worst run city in the US"? Just curious.


https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/san-francisco-named-worst-run-city-in-united-states-wallethub-study-says/
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44602 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-27 02:02:33
June 27 2024 02:00 GMT
#84511
On June 27 2024 10:34 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2024 10:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 27 2024 09:58 BlackJack wrote:
San Francisco had a Democratic primary debate for mayor and one candidate hit another with an absolute banger of a gotcha question, “can you name 3 drag queens in San Francisco?” Apparently this daft lad couldn’t name any drag queens in the last debate either so she gave him an opportunity to redeem himself.

https://youtu.be/rMcnR8B1FBM?si=JljKKRk6gv_Br4Jq

The lady asking the question is the incumbent candidate Mayor London Breed. I assume she won the last election by being able to name more drag queens than anybody else.

Imagine living in the worst run city in the US and everything is going to shit and the candidates for mayor are arguing over who can make more drag queens as if that’s a major qualification to fix SF’s problem. Stay woke, my friends.


It appears that naming LGBTQ+ advisors and listing drag queens they've spoken to were ways to challenge each other over just how pro-LGBTQ+ they are, which might be reasonable questions / litmus tests within the narrow context of trying to figure out if someone is truly pro-LGBTQ+ or not even caring enough to reach out to someone within that demographic.

This is just a two-minute clip, so I have no way of knowing if this was what the entire debate about. I would hope that plenty of other SF-related topics and questions were also addressed.

Out of curiosity, how do you qualify/quantify San Francisco being the "worst run city in the US"? Just curious.


https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/san-francisco-named-worst-run-city-in-united-states-wallethub-study-says/


Thanks for sharing! It looks like SF does really well in some areas, and really poorly in others:

"The study considered six factors in its rankings. Find each category and San Francisco’s ranking out of the 148 cities measured below:
Financial stability (#52)
Education (#15)
Health (#1)
Safety (#107)
Economy (#133)
Infrastructure and pollution (#12)

Each factor was comprised of more specific metrics. San Francisco had the nation’s worst long-term outstanding debt per capita but the best infant mortality rate, according to WalletHub. ... WalletHub took a total of 36 metrics into account when doing its study. Each metric was weighted differently, with cities receiving a score between 1-100 in each category."

It seems that the factors where SF performed the worst, were the ones weighed the heaviest: "San Francisco’s strong performance in some of the categories listed above was weighed down by a high per-capita budget."
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23296 Posts
June 27 2024 02:45 GMT
#84512
On June 27 2024 10:02 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2024 08:31 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 27 2024 07:01 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I mean Trump has said that he might intentionally lose the debate (to avoid democrats deciding to replace Biden) so let's see how it goes.

I feel like the only way for it not to be shameful is measuring Biden and Trump against each other rather than pretty much any other president or western nations leader.


You do know you have Canada right there north?


I may have noticed it a time or two?

On June 27 2024 09:45 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2024 08:31 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 27 2024 07:01 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I mean Trump has said that he might intentionally lose the debate (to avoid democrats deciding to replace Biden) so let's see how it goes.

I feel like the only way for it not to be shameful is measuring Biden and Trump against each other rather than pretty much any other president or western nations leader.

What are your thoughts on Macron right now?

Still shitty?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 27 2024 02:55 GMT
#84513
Yes, a big reason they were ranked worst was because they have the highest revenue per capita of any city and not much to show for it. The people that tell us that if they just had a little more money they could solve all the problems just so happen to have the most money and the most problems. Funny that. The solution is an obvious one: they just need a little more money.

To be honest, I have no idea how they edged out New York City. Virtue signaling on being a sanctuary city and accepting the poor huddled masses before getting overrun with a migrant crisis is an all-time self-own.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25665 Posts
June 27 2024 03:50 GMT
#84514
On June 27 2024 10:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2024 09:58 BlackJack wrote:
San Francisco had a Democratic primary debate for mayor and one candidate hit another with an absolute banger of a gotcha question, “can you name 3 drag queens in San Francisco?” Apparently this daft lad couldn’t name any drag queens in the last debate either so she gave him an opportunity to redeem himself.

https://youtu.be/rMcnR8B1FBM?si=JljKKRk6gv_Br4Jq

The lady asking the question is the incumbent candidate Mayor London Breed. I assume she won the last election by being able to name more drag queens than anybody else.

Imagine living in the worst run city in the US and everything is going to shit and the candidates for mayor are arguing over who can make more drag queens as if that’s a major qualification to fix SF’s problem. Stay woke, my friends.


It appears that naming LGBTQ+ advisors and listing drag queens they've spoken to were ways to challenge each other over just how pro-LGBTQ+ they are, which might be reasonable questions / litmus tests within the narrow context of trying to figure out if someone is truly pro-LGBTQ+ or not even caring enough to reach out to someone within that demographic.

This is just a two-minute clip, so I have no way of knowing if this was what the entire debate about. I would hope that plenty of other SF-related topics and questions were also addressed.

Out of curiosity, how do you qualify/quantify San Francisco being the "worst run city in the US"? Just curious.

Aye I mean, can’t remember who (maybe David Cameron?) claimed to be a childhood/ongoing Aston Villa fan over here. Naturally someone asked him to name a couple of players and he fucked it.

If, however someone was to ask a politician, apropos of absolutely bloody nothing to name Aston Villa’s current centre forward, it would be completely fucking asinine as a line of questioning.

Whereas if you’re trying to ingratiate yourself with whatever demographic it’s perfectly reasonable, indeed somewhat desirable to have your bona fides checked out
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-27 12:36:46
June 27 2024 12:36 GMT
#84515
On June 27 2024 02:38 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2024 01:19 Salazarz wrote:
So when it comes to public schools, cutting funding is just to get rid of waste and corruption. But when it's about cutting funding to police departments, suddenly there's no waste or corruption to be had and it's just woke libtards empowering criminals?

Huh.

I don't think anyone had mentioned police, but since you brought it up.

Public school teachers can get crayon on their shirt, and have the same vacations as children. Police officers can be shot. Ergo you have to at least provide funding equivalent to the number of police officers you need to fight crime multiplied by a police officer's salary. The main reason is that, despite how clever you probably thought that sounded, there is no private option for police. There is no "police choice." Private security are not officers of the law, and indeed they usually barely even qualify as private security when all they (can) do is watch people walk out of a store with its entire inventory.

Additionally, law enforcement except for the FBI, DEA, ATF, Homeland Security, and probably someone else (CIA and NSA are considered "intelligence" as they don't arrest/take custody of people, inside the US at least), is not federal. That means again, like schools, they are outside of the federal government (hereafter "Drumpf")'s purview. Most police spending is local, followed by state, followed by federal. Very little federal funding goes to other branches. However, to address your point, we are more than familiar with Drumpf's view of the FBI and are pretty sure he's up for reforming it.

If you need more than the annualized minimum wage of a worker to teach a single kid for a year, something has gone wrong, objectively, doubly so if they aren't even learning anything. If you cut so much funding for police that your embattled jurisdiction has no choice but to lay off officers, your "crime rate" will go down in the sense of you don't have enough people to make arrests. If you stop incentivizing shit schools, the idea is not that you raise averages by removing students from the system, but by letting them be better educated somewhere else.

The idea of school choice is very much wound up together with funding. If you cut funding for a school (actual funding, not just the federal help money part), you have to let the parents (family) choose what school they go to also. That includes vouchers. Otherwise, instead of a better school, you just have no school. Which, while amounting to a total lack of public education, is probably still a utilitarian improvement over spending $20k a year to teach 40% of your students NOTHING. You could even just subsidize a nuclear family's homeschooling with that, and with one stone improve about a dozen social problems that get no attention by dumping the same money in schools that don't work.

You should not ONLY reduce school funding to improve schools, but the federal government does not and should not control local school boards. But you can see revolts even among deep blue jurisdictions like in California as they replace school board members, realizing that unlike what they previously thought, they can't just leave the Democratic party on autopilot and expect everything to work out by itself.

If a police department is corrupt, or not functioning, the solution is not to cut funding. Then the corrupt people will fire the non corrupt ones, protect each other more, and worsen both policing and corruption because they have tighter control.

The correction is immediate state or federalDrumpf takeover of the force, emergency relief, mobilizing national guard if necessary, investigation, prosecution, and electoral solutions where applicable (ex. voting a new sheriff, DAs who prosecute criminals, etc.). You use the remaining money to employ new officers and train them and build a force that isn't corrupt. Additionally, politicians are themselves corrupt and keep getting voted for unchallenged in these jurisdictions anyway.

If any law enforcement department is bloated compared to an apparent lack of work for it to do, the solution would be first redirection if possible, otherwise yes, cutting - just like the rest of government waste - done at the appropriate level of government.

In short, schools and police are different, the government should do both, the federal governmentDrumpf should probably only do the second one, although there are people called libertarians who think the government should do neither, the government anyway needs to do both better if it's going to do them at all.


Over 15% of school teachers report experiencing violence from students; then there's violence from parents as well, and the 300 something school shootings per year. The idea that the worst that can happen to a teacher is 'getting some crayon on their shirt' is insulting. It's also largely untrue that school teachers get vacations comparable to children -- teachers in the US work ridiculous amounts of overtime, and most of them work throughout vacations to catch up on lesson prep and other admin stuff.

'Private option' for education is not an option for most students, either. Average cost of private schooling is over $12,000 per year, which is way beyond what vast majority of Americans can afford.

The US doesn't spend more than annualized minimum wage of a worker per student, either. US expenses on primary & secondary education are near the top of OECD, but not particularly remarkable and similar to those of other advanced economies such as UK, Germany, Netherlands, South Korea, or the Nordics.

If you 'stop incentivizing shit schools' by cutting off budget from public education, you're not going to have students be better educated somewhere else, because it's not as if there are empty high quality schools around just waiting for students to attend them while the clueless students are stuck in shitty schools presumably because... the government is giving too much money to those schools? I don't know.

It's honestly so weird that you think that inefficient and corrupt police departments need intervention from federal government to set them straight, meanwhile inefficient and corrupt schools are best fixed by a blanket funding reduction on the entire public school system.

There's just so many strange assumptions and ideas in your post. Like, where's the '40% of students are learning nothing' coming from? Where are you even getting the idea that schools are these wasteful and corrupt organizations from? Most teachers and principals talk about dire lack of funding and their inability to afford the tools they need to provide for their students' needs, and given that even relatively poor and 'cheap' countries such as Czechia or Estonia are spending ~$10,000 per year on each student, ~$15,000 in the US sure doesn't sound like a lot of money.

Incidentally, the US spends 2x as much per police officer as the UK and 3x as much as Germany. But sure, it's schools that are cesspits of waste that can't get anything done and need their budgets slashed, not your police force. You're a perfect example of the hypocritical 'small government!!!111' conservative who is in reality just full of shit.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9625 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-27 14:57:34
June 27 2024 13:19 GMT
#84516
it’s consistently one of the biggest tourist cities in the entire world, more people see it and document it than most places. and news outlets still get to write that shit and have their readers believe and repeat it.

better let all those millions know to avoid it. maybe insta will blow up with all these personal anecdotes of crisis in the streets. along with the aliens.

it’s funny, my father (we’re new yorkers, he’s a long islander though. it’s where most of the conservatives live, courted by the exorbitant tax rate) repeats the same nonsense, but can’t be pressed to actually articulate any experience he or anyone he knows has had relating to any migrant crisis.

i hit the city several times a year, have many friends that live in manhattan and brooklyn. the complaints are the same as they have been for years. it smells like trash at night, and it’s just too close to new jersey for comfort. and actually that’s it. they love it.

leave it to the home of the statue of liberty to actually be proud to welcome huddled masses. the shame they bring upon themselves lol. self own indeed. they ought to abandon principle when it becomes remotely difficult or politically inconvenient.

On June 27 2024 22:37 farvacola wrote:
Had a nice visit to NYC just the other week to see a show, take in some sights, and eat some good food. Visited three of the five boroughs and nary a “migrant crisis” to be seen. Maybe I missed them.

made up immigrant crisis? must be election season again. time to roll
out the imaginary dead horse to beat. unfortunately even facing the same play book i bet the dems have nothing better to roll out to beat it this time. its like mariano in the late 90s, or ovechkin now. you know exactly what’s comin but you can’t beat it.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-27 13:38:37
June 27 2024 13:37 GMT
#84517
Had a nice visit to NYC just the other week to see a show, take in some sights, and eat some good food. Visited three of the five boroughs and nary a “migrant crisis” to be seen. Maybe I missed them.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25665 Posts
June 27 2024 13:55 GMT
#84518
I dunno call me crazy but could San Francisco’s various problems be I dunno, partly due to a very high cost of living and wage inequality?

Or is it just the woke mob?

It’s where we get many a migrant at the lower pay end of the scale. Sure you’re earning like 80% of what you could in Dublin or London but if your other outgoings are a third or a quarter you’re coming out well ahead
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1923 Posts
June 27 2024 16:40 GMT
#84519
I find it sad that governments still gets away with the "cut budgets to improve quality" bs.

This is pure political spin, and it never works in real world. Politicians will never know enough details about the inner lives of institutions to have any idea what they are talking about. Institutions even have incentives to cut first where it hurts the most politically, to scare politicians from further cuts, and regaining funding in the future.

The quality WILL suffer, and consequences can be disastrous.
Buff the siegetank
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
June 27 2024 17:29 GMT
#84520
On June 28 2024 01:40 Slydie wrote:
I find it sad that governments still gets away with the "cut budgets to improve quality" bs.

This is pure political spin, and it never works in real world. Politicians will never know enough details about the inner lives of institutions to have any idea what they are talking about. Institutions even have incentives to cut first where it hurts the most politically, to scare politicians from further cuts, and regaining funding in the future.

The quality WILL suffer, and consequences can be disastrous.

It’s altogether a much easier schtick for the “government never works” folks to pull. Their being put into power becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Prev 1 4224 4225 4226 4227 4228 5241 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Map Test Tournament
11:00
$450 3v3 Open Cup
WardiTV170
IndyStarCraft 130
LiquipediaDiscussion
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 2: Playoffs Day 5
Cure vs TriGGeRLIVE!
Tasteless801
Crank 753
CranKy Ducklings101
Rex97
3DClanTV 66
IntoTheiNu 28
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 801
Crank 753
Lowko160
IndyStarCraft 130
Rex 97
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 21644
Calm 8467
Horang2 1686
Bisu 1607
Hyuk 621
actioN 358
Stork 325
ZerO 295
Pusan 206
EffOrt 198
[ Show more ]
Snow 195
Mini 179
Last 165
Soma 136
Light 134
Hyun 122
Soulkey 83
Liquid`Ret 65
ggaemo 56
Mind 52
hero 50
ToSsGirL 48
sorry 46
Rush 34
Sharp 27
Free 27
HiyA 25
scan(afreeca) 22
sas.Sziky 15
Terrorterran 14
SilentControl 13
JYJ13
Sexy 13
Icarus 5
Dota 2
singsing2714
Dendi220
XcaliburYe198
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1781
x6flipin562
shoxiejesuss517
edward82
Other Games
B2W.Neo590
DeMusliM241
XaKoH 142
Pyrionflax119
NeuroSwarm42
Fuzer 36
Trikslyr7
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 940
CasterMuse 19
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1861
Other Games
• WagamamaTV179
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
1h 24m
RSL Revival
22h 24m
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
1d 15h
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 20h
RSL Revival
1d 22h
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Online Event
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.