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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
I don't even disagree that Fox News is a heaping pile of shit top to bottom, but I'm not one of their anchors who's paid highly to spew forth their propaganda. He sold out and was surprised to find that selling out isn't just him receiving money. So sad. | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
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Neneu
Norway492 Posts
On April 27 2023 16:23 gobbledydook wrote: What are Biden's strengths anyway? Assume he was 20 years younger so age wasn't an issue. He's been surprisingly very productive when it comes to passing a lot of major legislations, e.g. the bipartisan infrastructure bill or the inflation reduction act. It becomes almost silly when you compare it to how unproductive trump were during his presidency. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28894 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5866 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
Biden supported the good Friday agreement and gave strength to it showing up in Ireland instead of attending Charles' coronation. Big things for Europe. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46432 Posts
On April 27 2023 16:23 gobbledydook wrote: What are Biden's strengths anyway? Assume he was 20 years younger so age wasn't an issue. Strengths vs. weaknesses are often a matter of perspective (if you agree or disagree with what a politician does.) Given that every election is between at least two people, Biden's strengths might also include things that he does more favorably than his opponent, on a relative scale. While it's a different discussion within the Democratic primary, where he might not be as progressive as other Democratic candidates, the general election of D vs. R could feature Biden's "strengths" as pretty much anything more liberal than Trump or DeSantis, such as (pardon the double-negatives) not being as anti-education, anti-abortion, and anti-LGBTQ+ as his conservative opponent. The lesser of two evils. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On April 27 2023 17:15 Liquid`Drone wrote: As a person, he's shown himself as a bit of a man of the people (doesn't speak over people's heads and is by all accounts a likable dude) and a resilient family man (lost his wife and daughter in a car accident, but bounced back and spent, for a couple decades, three hours every day commuting by train between DC and Delaware to combine his political life with family life). I'm sure some people might find that kind of stuff genuinely inspirational! "Man of the people" was shot in the head the moment he decided to break the railroad strike. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
They're keeping politics out of it by trying to push the legislation they want into a bill that helps the US avoid defaulting on its own debt to itself, something financial experts agree is actually impossible. Basically the whole debt ceiling dance is just that, performative. As is the Republicans' sudden concern with the debt ceiling now that they're not spending the money. And somehow the only way they can think to raise the debt limit is by cutting government provisions to the poor and less fortunate. Business as usual, really. Biden has kept a firm stance against this nonsense so far, but I can see him caving after enough Republican hand-wringing. I guess we'll see what happens. | ||
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On May 01 2023 02:56 NewSunshine wrote: I'm pretty sure Biden and the Democrats in the Senate have to just let the Republicans shoot the hostage here. If they give in and pass the Republican bill, next time the debt ceiling needs to be raised again, the Republicans are just going to insist on more cuts and more holes in the safety net, while they continue to cut taxes to keep the government in debt, until there is no federal government left to cut.So we're stuck in a quagmire over the national debt, with Republicans claiming to keep politics out of raising the debt ceiling as they literally try to ram their agenda into a resolution to raise the debt ceiling for a year. After they got 3 clean raises under Trump. No politics to be seen here. They're keeping politics out of it by trying to push the legislation they want into a bill that helps the US avoid defaulting on its own debt to itself, something financial experts agree is actually impossible. Basically the whole debt ceiling dance is just that, performative. As is the Republicans' sudden concern with the debt ceiling now that they're not spending the money. And somehow the only way they can think to raise the debt limit is by cutting government provisions to the poor and less fortunate. Business as usual, really. Biden has kept a firm stance against this nonsense so far, but I can see him caving after enough Republican hand-wringing. I guess we'll see what happens. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22584 Posts
If they want to shut the government down then let them, the voters will rightfully blame them for it, just like last time. | ||
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On May 01 2023 03:57 Gorsameth wrote: In this case, it's not shutting the government down, it's letting the US default on its debts.Republicans do this every time, if anyone still hasn't figured out that the only move is to call the Republicans bluff then they haven't been paying attention. If they want to shut the government down then let them, the voters will rightfully blame them for it, just like last time. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22584 Posts
On May 01 2023 04:07 Kyadytim wrote: Right yes, same deal. Let them. I'm sure their corporate paymasters will LOVE the idea of the billions in damages they would cause.In this case, it's not shutting the government down, it's letting the US default on its debts. | ||
KwarK
United States44289 Posts
On May 01 2023 04:07 Kyadytim wrote: In this case, it's not shutting the government down, it's letting the US default on its debts. Nah, the treasury can actually back door issue debt without congressional approval. They’d do that before default. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On May 01 2023 07:34 JimmiC wrote: The thing that keeps it being something of concern instead of clearly empty posturing by the Republican party is that every time it becomes an issue like this the Republican party is crazier than the last time it came up, so it's always entirely possible that this time, this group of freshman House members will refuse to back down.Do average Americans even think this kind of thing is a big deal anymore? It feels like it is always happening and then gets solved. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On May 01 2023 02:56 NewSunshine wrote: So we're stuck in a quagmire over the national debt, with Republicans claiming to keep politics out of raising the debt ceiling as they literally try to ram their agenda into a resolution to raise the debt ceiling for a year. After they got 3 clean raises under Trump. No politics to be seen here. They're keeping politics out of it by trying to push the legislation they want into a bill that helps the US avoid defaulting on its own debt to itself, something financial experts agree is actually impossible. Basically the whole debt ceiling dance is just that, performative. As is the Republicans' sudden concern with the debt ceiling now that they're not spending the money. And somehow the only way they can think to raise the debt limit is by cutting government provisions to the poor and less fortunate. Business as usual, really. Biden has kept a firm stance against this nonsense so far, but I can see him caving after enough Republican hand-wringing. I guess we'll see what happens. Yes the whining over the debt that magically stops as soon as an R is in the Oval Office is ridiculously blatant and disingenuous | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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