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micronesia
United States24676 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44276 Posts
On May 07 2023 03:13 KwarK wrote: It’s meaningless. Holding the fort means exactly what it implies. The responsibility for the continuation of the enterprise is being passed from one individual to another. Holding down the fort is nonsense, but is used when people are describing holding the fort. It’s like if Americans started saying “kill two birds with one stone down”. It just doesn’t achieve the goal of the metaphor. Is there any chance that "hold the fort down" is designed to mean the opposite of "give the fort up"? Holding it down vs. giving it up? I've actually only heard the phrase as "holding down the fort", not just as "holding the fort", though I could see how they both could work. I'm sure the latter could be equally ridiculed too, similar to how you ridiculed the former, if we wanted to purposely misinterpret that phrase as well. + Show Spoiler + Hold the fort? You mean like in your hands? Should I hold the sandwich too? Hold on, but what if I hold the mustard when ordering the sandwich I'll hold while holding the fort? | ||
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KwarK
United States42648 Posts
Holding down forts just isn't what you do with forts, they're very heavy, they hold themselves down. It's just an Americanism, what "would of" looks like if you leave it a century. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11505 Posts
"Would of" is proof enough of the horrors they bring. It is so obviously wrong, makes no sense whatsoever, and is clearly a spelling based on someone mishearing something. And somehow it has become absurdly pervasive. And lets not start with stuff like "Drive Thru" | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On May 07 2023 03:17 micronesia wrote: If you go back far enough, I think that describes like the majority of language. Anyway, I conveyed my meaning in accordance with the norms of my language, so mission accomplished. I would of said "Mission accomplished down." | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On May 07 2023 04:58 Djabanete wrote: I would of said "Mission accomplished down." I'm picking of what you're putting down down. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11505 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain17982 Posts
On May 07 2023 16:30 Simberto wrote: I am always amazed how one random dude you never heard of before suddenly has the ability to completely grind some area of the US to a complete stop on their own. The republicans seem to be masters at finding way to stop the US from working for their insane political goals. When you know the rules intimately, it's generally quite easy to twist them to your favor. Rules like the one Tuberville is abusing are written in good faith, assuming all senators will vote against nominees only if they actually have a problem with that nominee. So routine promotion of hundreds of nominees should be unanimous and can be done in batches. If Tuberville had a specific problem with one of the nominees, he could make that clear, they'd be removed from the batch, and a separate nomination process could be scheduled for that particular nominee. That would be how the rule was intended. However Tuberville doesn't care about approving promotions among military personnel. He cares about some political football that has nothing at all to do with the personnel. But it's the political football he can hold hostage. Next step will be someone holding up promotions at the department of energy until Obamacare is repealed or something equally unrelated and moronic. Unsurprisingly when your senators act in bad faith, things break. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23221 Posts
On May 07 2023 16:30 Simberto wrote: I am always amazed how one random dude you never heard of before suddenly has the ability to completely grind some area of the US to a complete stop on their own. The republicans seem to be masters at finding way to stop the US from working for their insane political goals. The real trick was convincing people that they were stopping the US system from working rather than ensuring it's working precisely as intended to perpetuate/legitimate a white supremacist/racial capitalist hegemony. Any considered reflection on the founders (and many that followed) and the country they were building (rather than the delusional historical propaganda that pervades people's consciousness all around the world) makes it pretty clear Trump/Republicans are their natural heirs and reflective of what the US was designed for imo. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On May 07 2023 04:20 Simberto wrote: Given no further information, i will basically always assume that Americans just randomly butchered their own language. "Would of" is proof enough of the horrors they bring. It is so obviously wrong, makes no sense whatsoever, and is clearly a spelling based on someone mishearing something. And somehow it has become absurdly pervasive. And lets not start with stuff like "Drive Thru" Yeah. Another example I like: "I could care less". | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On May 08 2023 04:29 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah. Another example I like: "I could care less". It achieves the lifelong goal of any colloquial expression: having to subsequently explain it, because its use has gotten muddy as people just don't care enough to get it right that people aren't sure anymore. George Carlin had entire threads of jokes about this stuff, that most of you would appreciate if you haven't already. | ||
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Falling
Canada11349 Posts
(Could Care Less and Hold Down the Fort in the same video.) I do love me some David Mitchell. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3188 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44276 Posts
On May 09 2023 22:22 ChristianS wrote: Didn’t Nony have a whole thing about insisting “I could care less” makes sense and is actually the only one that makes sense? I don't see how it could be the only one that makes sense (does that mean "I couldn't care less" is senseless? what if you don't care at all about something?), but I suppose you could care less if you care at least a little about something. The problem, of course, is that the only context it's ever used in seems to be situations where you're trying to tell someone that you don't care at all. Person A: The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom and Diablo 4 are both coming out soon! Person B: I really could care less. Person A: Don't you mean "couldn't"? And you're not looking forward to either game? Person B: No, I mean, I'm really excited for them to come out! I care a lot, so it's possible for me to care less, if I didn't care as much as I currently do! Scenarios like that would be pretty confusing and awkward. | ||
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KwarK
United States42648 Posts
That’s just about the least information you could convey. On a scale of zero to all positive numbers the only one that has been ruled out is 0. It’s like if a reviewer gave a game a rating of “not 13.2 stars”. You don’t even know what the scale was. Americans must be stopped from using English. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11505 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28665 Posts
That is, assuming one is not particularly nihilistically inclined, in which case I couldn't care less might frequently be the case. I could care less is coherent, but it just means that you care more a non-zero amount about something. | ||
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Slydie
1913 Posts
-Did you hear they are anouncing a huge new SC2 tournament? -I didn't hear nothing about that. -So if you didn't hear nothing, you heard something about it, right? -No, didn't hear nothing about it... "I could care less" is underplaying things we DO care about. Admitting love or passion might leave us vulnerable. I didn't know "hold (down) the fort" could mean anything except "take care of business (while I am gone/for a while)". | ||
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