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JimmiC
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Sermokala
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JimmiC
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Simberto
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Gahlo
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oBlade
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On September 28 2022 01:22 Simberto wrote: But they are white! They cannot be criminals! Or at least not like those drugdealing mexican rapist murderer economic migrants. It's more like, they are wealthy enough, or his estate, to be able to afford to have a guy like Tucker speak at his funeral? Maybe. I don't know if rich people give each other speaking fees for eulogies but there's almost nothing too distasteful for the elite when it comes to money. The headline "Tucker Carlson under fire" to me as a skeptical reader suggests that the author of the article is in fact the flamethrower in question, and the main one who wants Tucker Carlson to be under fire, probably for reasons unrelated to the Hell's Angels because the author somehow managed to shoehorn the former president into his article as well. If you know much about the 60s or 70s the Hell's Angels are an indispensable piece of Americana and have been platformed and glorified for the media almost as a long-standing tradition. You can see the puff pieces for the guy's death already all over the media. Even people who weren't alive when he was relevant probably are the ones writing about this. Sonny Barger, who as the charismatic face of the Hells Angels grew the hard-charging motorcycle club from its roots in the San Francisco area into a global phenomenon, in the process making it an emblem of West Coast rebellion — and, federal authorities said, criminal enterprise — died on Wednesday at his home outside Oakland, Calif. He was 83. Mr. Barger was always careful to distance himself from much of the club’s more extreme ventures into criminality, cultivating an image that was at once hard-core and media savvy. elder statesman on the biker scene Truly the Jimmy Carter of biker gangs. This is from the NYT. Where on Earth do these journalists come from? I'll just say probably people you do like will be at OJ Simpson's funeral as well, it's just life. If given the chance to speak most people would take it. | ||
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JimmiC
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smille
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- Conservatives have an interest in discrediting everything the government does as inefficient intervention into the free market. -> Hence, voting a buffoon like Trump into office was a win-win. He was no Democrat; and additionally something damaging the image of the government. -> Since the government is seen as inefficient and law is given by that entity, everything to circumvent the “law” is recognized as smart, e.g. tax evasion. (Therefore, Donald Trump is not that stupid, but rather smart. (But god forbid touching the consitution!)) --> If Tucker Carlson is a conservative figure and Hells Angels are breaking the law, they are smart. I don’t know why I engage in this kind of gossip, but while I was reading “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” lately, I wanted to scream at the author in disagreement every few pages (although, financially speaking the author had a really valid point). Since then, I had the feeling that criticizing any governmental bureaucracy seems to be one of US conservative’s core talking points. I guess what I want to say, every of Tucker Carlson’s acts is egregious to the edge. He does not deserve the attention. Not even on a progressive (or in world-wide paradigms center/neutral) forums like this one. | ||
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Velr
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Sermokala
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On September 28 2022 09:05 Velr wrote: I somehow tought higher of the hells angels than entertaining tucker carlson.. well... republicans i guess. You shouldn't. They're a bunch of criminals no different than any street gang. Also they're totally fans of Tucker. Like did you think that they're anything but hardened conservatives themselves? They're wildly racist, xenophobic, homophobic and any other kind of hateful being that can exist. They're the image of scum and are the ones that deserve to be locked up. | ||
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gobbledydook
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Same as how, for example, Joy Reid runs a show on MSNBC. | ||
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Velr
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On September 28 2022 12:27 Sermokala wrote: You shouldn't. They're a bunch of criminals no different than any street gang. I don't see how that makes my statement wrong. | ||
KwarK
United States44450 Posts
On September 28 2022 14:14 gobbledydook wrote: Does anyone actually believe Tucker presents news? I was under the impression that obviously Tucker is running an opinionated commentary show. Same as how, for example, Joy Reid runs a show on MSNBC. The viewers do. The world is full of idiots and a lot of them watch Tucker. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On September 28 2022 17:38 Velr wrote: I don't see how that makes my statement wrong. Idk Tucker traffics in hate and sells it to people. The Hells Angels are the hate and the ones doing the hateful acts tucker wouldn't even talk about. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46713 Posts
On September 28 2022 03:14 Gahlo wrote: New Innuendo Studios and why white moderate Democrats need to take a long look in the mirror while courting moderate republicans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCl33v5969M That's a great video. On a Florida note, I wonder if DeSantis and his fellow Republicans are going to use any of that "socialist" federal aid to help the state rebuild after this crazy hurricane. | ||
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JimmiC
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GreenHorizons
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On September 29 2022 21:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: That's a great video. On a Florida note, I wonder if DeSantis and his fellow Republicans are going to use any of that "socialist" federal aid to help the state rebuild after this crazy hurricane. It was a solid video with good presentation. Kinda explains the centrist fixation with Tucker too, so apt as well. Should be noted it is also basically a rehash of a message that's been presented in the US countless times going back at least as far as Dr. King's Letter from Birmingham Jail. It's part of why I can't give Biden nearly the credence that most here do considering he was 25 when Dr. King wrote it (not to mention he was in the Obama admin). He knows he's engaged in the deplorable strategy outlined in the video. As to DeSantis and Florida, I'm just waiting for the rationalizations from both parties on why yet again neocolonial imperialism is screwing over Puerto Rico. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On September 30 2022 04:22 GreenHorizons wrote: It was a solid video with good presentation. Kinda explains the centrist fixation with Tucker too, so apt as well. Should be noted it is also basically a rehash of a message that's been presented in the US countless times going back at least as far as Dr. King's Letter from Birmingham Jail. It's part of why I can't give Biden nearly the credence that most here do considering he was 25 when Dr. King wrote it (not to mention he was in the Obama admin). He knows he's engaged in the deplorable strategy outlined in the video. As to DeSantis and Florida, I'm just waiting for the rationalizations from both parties on why yet again neocolonial imperialism is screwing over Puerto Rico. GH come on this isn't even a real sentence. You can't whataboutism so hard that you lose the plot on what you're actually talking about. You just end up with gibberish like this that no one can respond to because you refuse to set on anything to talk about. What part about Desantis and Florida have to do with neocolonial imperialism and Puerto Rico? What comment do you have on Desantis trying to pick fights with democrats before suddenly needing to cooperate with Democrats to rebuild part of his state that suddenly is actually all about actually Neoliberal imperialism and Peurto rico? These are basic questions that someone now has to ask you before we can actually talk about something. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24512 Posts
On September 30 2022 05:16 Sermokala wrote: GH come on this isn't even a real sentence. You can't whataboutism so hard that you lose the plot on what you're actually talking about. You just end up with gibberish like this that no one can respond to because you refuse to set on anything to talk about. What part about Desantis and Florida have to do with neocolonial imperialism and Puerto Rico? What comment do you have on Desantis trying to pick fights with democrats before suddenly needing to cooperate with Democrats to rebuild part of his state that suddenly is actually all about actually Neoliberal imperialism and Peurto rico? These are basic questions that someone now has to ask you before we can actually talk about something. Not sure if you watched the video but that part of my comment is a reference to how the federal hurricane response fits into the description in the video of how "white moderates" collaborate with white supremacy. In reference to DeSantis, the current dance is demonstrative of the precedence collaboration with white supremacist neocolonial imperialism takes superseding all of the political posturing between the Biden admin and DeSantis. The unifying foundation of white supremacist capitalist neocolonial imperialism felt lacking in the video itself so I was compelled to tie it in. The patronizing paternalism from both parties toward Puerto Rico rationalizing decades of dereliction simmered in the context of gossiping about Biden, DeSantis and hurricane aid is quite illustrative of the points raised in the video and how white supremacist neocolonial imperialism is a sort of glue holding it all together. In other words, no matter how much DeSantis and Biden dislike each other they're allies in the grand scheme of white supremacist capitalist neocolonial imperialism and the federal response will reflect that. The gossip about "oh look who wants federal aid now?!!?" is puerile and uninteresting to me. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On September 29 2022 21:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: That's a great video. On a Florida note, I wonder if DeSantis and his fellow Republicans are going to use any of that "socialist" federal aid to help the state rebuild after this crazy hurricane. I'm out of the loop here. Has DeSantis called using federal aid after a natural disaster socialism? Or are you calling it socialism? | ||
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