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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13938 Posts
July 11 2022 07:30 GMT
#74481
They already have the option to do 1 it's just that more than half the state's refuse to do so. You can't "fully secure the southern border" it's massive and most illegal immigrants come from asia so two isn't common sense at all.

3 will never happen because you would need federal control over state elections. Even if it could happen it already happens they just are able to fiddle with publically available voting statistics to move the borders around to secure power without the majority like the illegitimate government of Wisconsin. Even with the things you propose it would still be easy to manipulate the districts to steal power and you would need to get people to agree to the program.

And if you've noticed one party wants things to just get worse so we will never see any changes that you propose.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9651 Posts
July 11 2022 07:52 GMT
#74482
On July 11 2022 16:30 Sermokala wrote:
They already have the option to do 1 it's just that more than half the state's refuse to do so. You can't "fully secure the southern border" it's massive and most illegal immigrants come from asia so two isn't common sense at all.

3 will never happen because you would need federal control over state elections. Even if it could happen it already happens they just are able to fiddle with publically available voting statistics to move the borders around to secure power without the majority like the illegitimate government of Wisconsin. Even with the things you propose it would still be easy to manipulate the districts to steal power and you would need to get people to agree to the program.

And if you've noticed one party wants things to just get worse so we will never see any changes that you propose.

OK so its actually not hard to secure the southern border. You just hire a couple of million people to stand in a line holding hands. BOOM no one can get past them. Suck it, Mexicans.
The only problem is the libs with their whining about it.
RIP Meatloaf <3
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
July 11 2022 08:48 GMT
#74483
On July 11 2022 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2022 16:30 Sermokala wrote:
They already have the option to do 1 it's just that more than half the state's refuse to do so. You can't "fully secure the southern border" it's massive and most illegal immigrants come from asia so two isn't common sense at all.

3 will never happen because you would need federal control over state elections. Even if it could happen it already happens they just are able to fiddle with publically available voting statistics to move the borders around to secure power without the majority like the illegitimate government of Wisconsin. Even with the things you propose it would still be easy to manipulate the districts to steal power and you would need to get people to agree to the program.

And if you've noticed one party wants things to just get worse so we will never see any changes that you propose.

OK so its actually not hard to secure the southern border. You just hire a couple of million people to stand in a line holding hands. BOOM no one can get past them. Suck it, Mexicans.
The only problem is the libs with their whining about it.


I'm not sure two million people would suffice.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11517 Posts
July 11 2022 09:11 GMT
#74484
The US-mexican border is ~3145 km long.

The average arm span is slightly over 1.5m.

If you put 2 million people next to each other, with their arms spread out and barely touching, the distance they cover is 2000000*1.5m = 3000000m = 3000km.

So 2 million actually fits very well, if you have smaller people or they people actually hold hands, you may need 2.5 million.

All my data is from the first hit on google.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25392 Posts
July 11 2022 09:38 GMT
#74485
On July 11 2022 18:11 Simberto wrote:
The US-mexican border is ~3145 km long.

The average arm span is slightly over 1.5m.

If you put 2 million people next to each other, with their arms spread out and barely touching, the distance they cover is 2000000*1.5m = 3000000m = 3000km.

So 2 million actually fits very well, if you have smaller people or they people actually hold hands, you may need 2.5 million.

All my data is from the first hit on google.

Also you wouldn’t need complete arm coverage if people were singing Kumbayah and other such classics the country would be less appealing to anyone coming within earshot.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9651 Posts
July 11 2022 09:42 GMT
#74486
On July 11 2022 18:38 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2022 18:11 Simberto wrote:
The US-mexican border is ~3145 km long.

The average arm span is slightly over 1.5m.

If you put 2 million people next to each other, with their arms spread out and barely touching, the distance they cover is 2000000*1.5m = 3000000m = 3000km.

So 2 million actually fits very well, if you have smaller people or they people actually hold hands, you may need 2.5 million.

All my data is from the first hit on google.

Also you wouldn’t need complete arm coverage if people were singing Kumbayah and other such classics the country would be less appealing to anyone coming within earshot.

or this:
+ Show Spoiler +
RIP Meatloaf <3
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
July 11 2022 12:05 GMT
#74487
On July 11 2022 18:11 Simberto wrote:
The US-mexican border is ~3145 km long.

The average arm span is slightly over 1.5m.

If you put 2 million people next to each other, with their arms spread out and barely touching, the distance they cover is 2000000*1.5m = 3000000m = 3000km.

So 2 million actually fits very well, if you have smaller people or they people actually hold hands, you may need 2.5 million.

All my data is from the first hit on google.

Gonna need to add another 4 million people at least to cover other shifts.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-11 13:33:03
July 11 2022 12:18 GMT
#74488
Yeah, and also people supplying those holding hands (after all large part of this area is desert, people need drink, food, shade) and some replacement if people go sick or whatever.
So:
3 x 2,5mln - people holding hands for three 8-hour shifts.
+1mln supply, logistic, administration,
+0,2mln replacements and emergency situations handling.
In total: 8,7mln people.

I doubt there are enough people in US willing to take that job, so I guess we would need to import them. Preferably from Mexico since its close.
Pathetic Greta hater.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-11 12:32:54
July 11 2022 12:31 GMT
#74489
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
July 11 2022 12:36 GMT
#74490
On July 11 2022 21:18 Silvanel wrote:
Yeah, and also people supplying those holding hands (afterall large part of this area is desert, people need drink, food, shade) and some replacment if people go sick or whatever.
So:
3 x 2,5mln - people holding hands for three 8 hour shifts.
+1 mln supply, logistic, administration,
+0,2mln replecments and emergency situations handlng.
In total: 8,7mln people.

I doubt there are enough people in US willing to take that job so i gouess we would need to import them. Preferebly from Mexico since its close.

Not to mention you'd probably need to supply a shorter commute to attract workers, so you'd need to build towns. So throw on construction crews to build towns to house and support the work force.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11517 Posts
July 11 2022 12:41 GMT
#74491
Simply wait for people to cross the border. Pay them to stand in a line holding hands.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25392 Posts
July 11 2022 12:43 GMT
#74492
We’re assuming a long, unbreakable line of people holding hands.

You could segment the wall human fence into small, more mobile units that you shift to cover gaps and clothesline any pesky migrants trying to sneak through the gap.

I can’t remember the name of the game we played but it was some catch/snake/capture the flag hybrid where you all had to link arms when you were out. Breaking the chain meant any tags made were illegitimate.

It’s a game where you’d think having a big, long snake would make defence easy but it’s actually trickier and trickier to coordinate.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 11 2022 14:00 GMT
#74493
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
July 11 2022 17:39 GMT
#74494
Maybe the strategy is make things so backwards and regressive that nobody wants to come here. Boom, immigration problem solved.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 11 2022 17:47 GMT
#74495
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 11 2022 18:20 GMT
#74496
Well this is not surprising but still shocking. I hope Biden doesn't run again

Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
July 11 2022 18:49 GMT
#74497
Weren't people always assuming he'd be a one-term president when they voted for him?

I voted for him in 2020, but I was hoping all along we'd see a younger face in 2024.
May the BeSt man win.
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
July 11 2022 18:54 GMT
#74498
On July 12 2022 03:49 Djabanete wrote:
Weren't people always assuming he'd be a one-term president when they voted for him?

I voted for him in 2020, but I was hoping all along we'd see a younger face in 2024.

Biden definitely gave people the impression he was going to be a one-term president. He said stuff during the primaries like "My VP pick needs to be ready to take over on day one", paraphrased of course.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 11 2022 18:59 GMT
#74499
On July 12 2022 03:49 Djabanete wrote:
Weren't people always assuming he'd be a one-term president when they voted for him?

I voted for him in 2020, but I was hoping all along we'd see a younger face in 2024.

I was, but I had no idea if that was going to actually happen. I just worry that Kamala Harris will be the nominee and cause historic losses for the Dems
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
July 11 2022 19:00 GMT
#74500
On July 12 2022 02:47 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2022 02:39 Starlightsun wrote:
Maybe the strategy is make things so backwards and regressive that nobody wants to come here. Boom, immigration problem solved.

And repopulate with only children of Musk and Nick Cannon.


Then America will be called Muskvoy... Putin's plan is becoming clear.
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