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On May 18 2022 23:51 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2022 23:30 NewSunshine wrote:On May 18 2022 22:06 plasmidghost wrote:
Lots of progressive victories yesterday. Here's to hoping that they can win in the general elections Hopefully the Democrats are actually taking some notes. People are excited to vote for candidates who are willing to fight to do some good, much more than they are to hold their nose and vote for someone who will merely not do the bad thing. Their heuristic for electability is outdated to hell, and they need to recognize that real bad. Also I'm anecdotally seeing some more centrist conservatives say they'd rather vote for Fetterman, with how extreme the Republicans are getting lately. I've been burnt before, but there's some room for hope. Absolutely. I am worried that if the progressive candidates as a whole lose to the GOP, there will be a ton of backlash against them. Just hoping they can get the enthusiasm of young voters replicated with independents And this is also anecdotal, but my parents and grandparents are all conservative to some degree and they voted Trump in 2016, but after talking to them about how bad the GOP is to trans people, they all said they're not going to vote GOP because "they're no longer small government". Won't vote Dem either, but that's probably the best I could do
That is honestly kind of sad. The gop wants to personally make life hell to their daughter/granddaughter. And the best they can do is "I guess that is not small government"?
Without wanting to judge your family, that sounds really dickish.
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Great news from Oregon. This shit head was exactly the kind of democrat we need to replace. It’s not the socialist revolution but it’s a step in the right direction.
https://theintercept.com/2022/05/18/kurt-schrader-oregon-election-jamie-mcleod-skinner/
The incumbent pulled in $2 million in outside super PAC support, half of it from the pharmaceutical industry he served in Congress, compared with McLeod-Skinner’s roughly $340,000 from the Working Families Party and Indivisible. Adding in his own spending, Schrader outspent his opponent 10-to-1 — and will likely still lose.
Schrader, whose opponent dubbed him the “Joe Manchin of the House,” joined last year with Rep. Josh Gottheimer, D-N.J., to push for decoupling the bipartisan infrastructure bill from the Build Back Better Act and cast the deciding vote in the Energy and Commerce Committee to kill prescription drug price reform. Nevertheless, he had the endorsement of both President Joe Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
McLeod-Skinner — a lesbian, rancher, and board member of the Jefferson County Education Service District — capitalized on Schrader’s weakness with Oregon Democrats by running a progressive, issues-focused campaign and convincing Schrader’s many local skeptics to endorse against the incumbent.
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The Republican party has never been shy about having schisms and reforming into something more unabashedly radical, more and more loudly saying what they've been about the entire time. The Democratic party desperately needs a similar schism event, they need a moment of reckoning where they realize they just don't go far enough for their voters the way they are now. Enough primaries like this start to happen, it'll reshape what kind of leadership is acceptable at the top, too.
The Democratic apparatus has been very resistant to actually doing anything for a long time, though, so IDK what it would actually take.
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On May 19 2022 02:08 NewSunshine wrote:
The Republican party has never been shy about having schisms and reforming into something more unabashedly radical, more and more loudly saying what they've been about the entire time. The Democratic party desperately needs a similar schism event, they need a moment of reckoning where they realize they just don't go far enough for their voters the way they are now. Enough primaries like this start to happen, it'll reshape what kind of leadership is acceptable at the top, too.
The Democratic apparatus has been very resistant to actually doing anything for a long time, though, so IDK what it would actually take.
What’s funny is Biden still supported this shit head who voted against his agenda lol
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What's even funnier is that it's a D+2 district and now they booted their current rep to make it an open seat in a republican year. Possible, if not likely that this time next year there is no democrat in that seat. But voters on both sides of the aisle do this.
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On May 19 2022 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2022 02:08 NewSunshine wrote:
The Republican party has never been shy about having schisms and reforming into something more unabashedly radical, more and more loudly saying what they've been about the entire time. The Democratic party desperately needs a similar schism event, they need a moment of reckoning where they realize they just don't go far enough for their voters the way they are now. Enough primaries like this start to happen, it'll reshape what kind of leadership is acceptable at the top, too.
The Democratic apparatus has been very resistant to actually doing anything for a long time, though, so IDK what it would actually take. What’s funny is Biden still supported this shit head who voted against his agenda lol
There's two possible conclusions that can be drawn there. One is that, like the Republicans, they're sticking together out of pragmatism, the second is that Biden is actually cool with how that went down, because the idea was never to actually pass the legislation. The second one is more cynical, for sure, but they're also kinda earning it?
People need help, shit needs to get done, and now Republicans are more emboldened than ever to strip rights away from their fellow Americans and send us back to the good old days of the mid-20th century. They can't just do this lax same-as-it-ever-was shit.
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On May 19 2022 02:18 Introvert wrote:
What's even funnier is that it's a D+2 district and now they booted their current rep to make it an open seat in a republican year. Possible, if not likely that this time next year there is no democrat in that seat. But voters on both sides of the aisle do this.
That seat was won by 7% in 2020. It will not go R in 2022. The counties that make up that seat have been flooded with left leaning migration in recent years.
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On May 19 2022 02:24 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2022 02:18 Introvert wrote:
What's even funnier is that it's a D+2 district and now they booted their current rep to make it an open seat in a republican year. Possible, if not likely that this time next year there is no democrat in that seat. But voters on both sides of the aisle do this. That seat was won by 7% in 2020. It will not go R in 2022. The counties that make up that seat have been flooded with left leaning migration in recent years.
7% is not that much in a midterm, especially for an open seat and if Biden's numbers stay crap. The GOP nominee seems normal, and that might be all that's needed. It's not gone for sure, but picking the more left choice is definitely a risk.
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On May 19 2022 02:35 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2022 02:24 Mohdoo wrote:On May 19 2022 02:18 Introvert wrote:
What's even funnier is that it's a D+2 district and now they booted their current rep to make it an open seat in a republican year. Possible, if not likely that this time next year there is no democrat in that seat. But voters on both sides of the aisle do this. That seat was won by 7% in 2020. It will not go R in 2022. The counties that make up that seat have been flooded with left leaning migration in recent years. 7% is not that much in a midterm, especially for an open seat and if Biden's numbers stay crap. The GOP nominee seems normal, and that might be all that's needed. It's not gone for sure, but picking the more left choice is definitely a risk.
I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see. But what I am saying is that this seat’s counties have been big migration hot spots for young folks in recent years. Getting rid of this guy has been a core rallying call since 2020. But I don’t have a crystal ball and I won’t pretend I do.
If the counties were different, I might agree. But these counties being yanked to the left is why this guy just lost his primary. He was untouchable for a long time
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At this point, it is harder and harder to convince me that a Manchin-like person is better than no democrat. If you don't have a majority, no one expects you to pass laws. If you have a majority, but your own people block you whenever you try to pass legislation, you look like a complete moron.
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Luckily we are trimming back the Manchin shit heads where possible. Oregon is doing our part.
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lol @ congress being the only means of regulation. That’s a doomsday scenario
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Its all just a slow matter of progress, not to worry, carry on.
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So, about those activist judges lol.
Doesn't this render every single regulation agency from the SEC to the FDA basically null and void?
They can't make regulations, Congress has to do every single one of them and they can't enforce them without going through the entire judiciary system, against major corporations who have no problem paying the legal fees to take every single case all the way up to the Supreme Court.
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At that point I wonder if the SC just goes "Nah, fuck that, it'd cause me way too much work."
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I don't know the details but are the implications there enforcement of law or enforcement of regulations? Generally, regulations do not apply directly to the public. Regulations are how the law is implemented by the government body. If the government body is not allowed to publish/follow regulations (regardless of a public comment period etc), then they will need to implement the law directly as written, which generally means everything is left incredibly open to interpretation. Perhaps we don't have the correct details yet, but this basically reads as "executive branch organizations are not allowed to write their own implementation guides anymore."
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