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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2022 15:38 GMT
#72741
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26258 Posts
May 14 2022 16:43 GMT
#72742
At least from the snippet of his voting record in that article this Massie fellow seems to vote along some kind of consistent principles
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 14 2022 16:57 GMT
#72743
Y'all have no idea how relieved I am that a Trump judge has some integrity to respect constitutional rights of trans people and I hope this can be reaffirmed everywhere

Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 14 2022 19:53 GMT
#72744
That's a bit of good news. Having a bit of a feel that every bit of good news in the US always seems to take the form of "Hooray, we've averted disaster for the umpteenth time, and managed to not fuck over a significant number of people for no reason again." Feels like there's so few real victories for people who aren't just trying to be assholes and villains. And I feel like that's victory enough for Conservatives.

Sorry. I digress. That's still good news. Alabama has been a core state among the cadre that are looking to take peoples' rights away. Seeing a ruling coming out in favor of would-be victims is good.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2022 21:47 GMT
#72745
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26258 Posts
May 14 2022 23:16 GMT
#72746
I’d love an evening with MTG and some truth serum and to definitely figure out if she’s completely full of shit or just a complete imbecile
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 14 2022 23:18 GMT
#72747
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Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-15 03:07:09
May 15 2022 00:31 GMT
#72748
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1525455426099322880?s=20&t=WulDfarDMzj9dcrkV2GCSQ

lol. This can't be real. Roger Stone's grift continues
“There is a satanic portal above the WH, you can see it day and night .. it must be closed, and it will be closed by prayer .. It popped up when Joe Biden became president, and it will be closed before he leaves.”

Can everyone just send your republican family members this video
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35168 Posts
May 15 2022 02:48 GMT
#72749
The way he moves his hand is so unique to somebody gesticulating while speaking. It looks like he's trying to sign drunk.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 16 2022 15:46 GMT
#72750
I wonder if he hasn't just turned insane ? If you keep drinking the same kool aid, you just start to believe it at some point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
May 18 2022 04:00 GMT
#72751
Madison Cawthorn has lost his primary. Probably due to the previous cousin face fucking scandal, given the margin wasn't super wide.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/17/us/politics/madison-cawthorn-concedes-nc-primary-gop.html
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
May 18 2022 04:20 GMT
#72752
On May 18 2022 13:00 Zambrah wrote:
Madison Cawthorn has lost his primary. Probably due to the previous cousin face fucking scandal, given the margin wasn't super wide.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/17/us/politics/madison-cawthorn-concedes-nc-primary-gop.html

And John Fetterman won his primary in Pennsylvania for Senate. Hopefully he can win the general.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/17/john-fetterman-pennsylvania-primary/
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 18 2022 11:46 GMT
#72753
The governor's race will also determine if the state still has abortion rights in 2023. The vote matters.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 18 2022 13:06 GMT
#72754
Lots of progressive victories yesterday. Here's to hoping that they can win in the general elections
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 18 2022 13:14 GMT
#72755
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-18 14:50:03
May 18 2022 14:30 GMT
#72756
On May 18 2022 22:06 plasmidghost wrote:
Lots of progressive victories yesterday. Here's to hoping that they can win in the general elections

Hopefully the Democrats are actually taking some notes. People are excited to vote for candidates who are willing to fight to do some good, much more than they are to hold their nose and vote for someone who will merely not do the bad thing. Their heuristic for electability is outdated to hell, and they need to recognize that real bad.

Also I'm anecdotally seeing some more centrist conservatives say they'd rather vote for Fetterman, with how extreme the Republicans are getting lately. I've been burnt before, but there's some room for hope.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-18 14:53:59
May 18 2022 14:51 GMT
#72757
On May 18 2022 23:30 NewSunshine wrote:
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On May 18 2022 22:06 plasmidghost wrote:
Lots of progressive victories yesterday. Here's to hoping that they can win in the general elections

Hopefully the Democrats are actually taking some notes. People are excited to vote for candidates who are willing to fight to do some good, much more than they are to hold their nose and vote for someone who will merely not do the bad thing. Their heuristic for electability is outdated to hell, and they need to recognize that real bad.

Also I'm anecdotally seeing some more centrist conservatives say they'd rather vote for Fetterman, with how extreme the Republicans are getting lately. I've been burnt before, but there's some room for hope.

Absolutely. I am worried that if the progressive candidates as a whole lose to the GOP, there will be a ton of backlash against them. Just hoping they can get the enthusiasm of young voters replicated with independents

And this is also anecdotal, but my parents and grandparents are all conservative to some degree and they voted Trump in 2016, but after talking to them about how bad the GOP is to trans people, they all said they're not going to vote GOP because "they're no longer small government". Won't vote Dem either, but that's probably the best I could do
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18849 Posts
May 18 2022 14:52 GMT
#72758
I think Big Man Fetterman has a good shot at the Pa senate seat so long as he can stay healthy.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
May 18 2022 15:14 GMT
#72759
On May 18 2022 23:51 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2022 23:30 NewSunshine wrote:
On May 18 2022 22:06 plasmidghost wrote:
Lots of progressive victories yesterday. Here's to hoping that they can win in the general elections

Hopefully the Democrats are actually taking some notes. People are excited to vote for candidates who are willing to fight to do some good, much more than they are to hold their nose and vote for someone who will merely not do the bad thing. Their heuristic for electability is outdated to hell, and they need to recognize that real bad.

Also I'm anecdotally seeing some more centrist conservatives say they'd rather vote for Fetterman, with how extreme the Republicans are getting lately. I've been burnt before, but there's some room for hope.

Absolutely. I am worried that if the progressive candidates as a whole lose to the GOP, there will be a ton of backlash against them. Just hoping they can get the enthusiasm of young voters replicated with independents


If there is a lot of backlash, that would mean it is warranted backlash. We can't just pat ourselves for having candidates we like running if those candidates go on to lose. This is a great test and I hope the progressive win every race. But we have had instances in the past where extremely flawed progressives don't do so well and people look for silly excuses for how/why things turned out the way they did.

We have examples of progressives doing well and also progressives doing poorly. It is important to learn from both.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-18 15:40:10
May 18 2022 15:37 GMT
#72760
So far indicators look very good for GOP. Primary turnout is insane at the moment. Obviously the VA and NJ gov races were a good sign as well. And while a few gov races are being thrown (PA seems a toss up even in a GOP year because of the nominee) either Oz or McCormick should be able to keep the senate seat in GOP hands. The PA gop messed up gov and I think the MI gop messed up just about everything, but most primaries seem like they are going well. Only real senate races I'm worried about are NH and GA, could have had stronger nominees than the current frontrunners. For governor races, again, PA, as well as AZ and MI. And the gov races are sad, cause if Roe goes the GOP legislatures in those states could really do something impactful.

But all states listed above are swing states, and given the normal turn toward the out party and Biden's horrific approvals, even mediocre candidates (like Oz) should be favored, and bad ones have a chance. Also interested to see what happens in OR.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
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