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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14058 Posts
On May 21 2022 10:27 Doc.Rivers wrote: I mean is it true that some aborted fetuses are burned for power generation? That would appear to make the woman's statement true rather than absurd. To the extent she implied that burned fetuses account for any significant portion of power generation, that would be false, but that implication is a little less clear. This is incredible. I have seen examples of propaganda lies but this seems like you put some serious effort and skill into contorting some sort of argument that you were confident enough to send out into the internet. Just think about what that lady was so confident in saying that she said it officially in front of Congress. The gop hasn't piblically disowned her. You are actually trying to reason what she said. There is never going back from the pit of insanity where this is acceptable to people. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On May 21 2022 10:27 Doc.Rivers wrote: I mean is it true that some aborted fetuses are burned for power generation? That would appear to make the woman's statement true rather than absurd. To the extent she implied that burned fetuses account for any significant portion of power generation, that would be false, but that implication is a little less clear. "The next time you turn on the light, think of the incinerators". Yes, because all light and power provided to the city comes in the form of burnt fetuses, and anyone who dares to turn the light on after a full day's work is complicit in a baby-harvesting combine. As an engineer, who has studied how power, heat, and the laws of conservation of mass and energy work, this makes my fucking head hurt it's so stupid. It's blatant fear-mongering and baseless accusations to misdirect attention to a problem that doesn't exist. And clearly, she found her mark. Hi Mark. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45176 Posts
On May 21 2022 10:27 Doc.Rivers wrote: I mean is it true that some aborted fetuses are burned for power generation? That would appear to make the woman's statement true rather than absurd. To the extent she implied that burned fetuses account for any significant portion of power generation, that would be false, but that implication is a little less clear. Is there anything a right-wing nutjob could say that you wouldn't defend to the death? Is there no hill you're not willing to die on, no matter how ridiculous? I'm not asking rhetorically; I'm legitimately asking if you could think of a statement that you wouldn't blindly defend, as long as it was made by a Republican or conservative apologist. | ||
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Doc.Rivers
United States404 Posts
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Doc.Rivers
United States404 Posts
Would be nice to see some justice served for those who fabricated the collusion theory. | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On May 21 2022 13:11 Doc.Rivers wrote: I am interested to see how Special Counsel John Durham’s first criminal trial turns out. The trial involving former Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman is ongoing. Durham charged Sussman with lying to the FBI while spreading accusations of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. The trial has generated some news including this: https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1527794061788209154 Would be nice to see some justice served for those who fabricated the collusion theory. But if there was connections, it wouldn't be factually wrong. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On May 21 2022 13:02 Doc.Rivers wrote: I'm not particularly attached to the abortion issue or this particular activist's claim, I'm just making the point that if aborted fetuses are used for that purpose, she's not factually wrong. I really have no idea whether that is true but I'm not sure that I would rule it out. Like someone said in this thread, "you might as well do that if the fetus is aborted." Except you know she's not testifying under the auspices of Republicans in Congress just to say that technically the odd fetus might end up as incinerated biomass. She wasn't there to waste everyone's time just to say that something which is theoretically possible might have happened once somewhere. She was there to spread fear, to make the claim that it's a widespread practice encouraged and condoned by people who are proponents of a woman's right to choose. Her reason for being there was to (very subtly) imply that people who are pro-choice are also pro-farming-and-burning-dead-fetuses-to-power-your-city-block. And that there's also somehow such a robust and large fetus-power industry that it has also overtaken the conventional grid that actually supplies the power to your home. You know she wasn't just there to push up her glasses and say "well actually it's probably not 0". So it's not cute when you do the same. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On May 21 2022 14:28 JimmiC wrote: If she was there at the requirment of the deep state to spread confusion and she is in the GOP then the GOP is controlled by the deep state. To think all those voters getting grifted by those who they think they are fighting. I would've made jokes by now about how, as vampires, holding up a mirror to a Republican can do nothing, but that's an insult to vampires. Vampires are fucking awesome, and they will at least seek to be invited into your home before they hijack your body for their own purposes. Totally different animal. | ||
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Doc.Rivers
United States404 Posts
Aborted fetal tissue and other types of medical waste — amputated limbs, organs, cancerous tissue, bones and all manner of bodily fluids — are routinely burned for heat or electricity worldwide. https://www.livescience.com/45139-aborted-fetuses-burned-incinerated-medical-waste.html | ||
KwarK
United States43356 Posts
On May 22 2022 03:03 Doc.Rivers wrote: Turns out we all should have looked upp the facts (as should the journalists at all the liberal outlets covering this woman's testimony) because this stuff actually happens: https://www.livescience.com/45139-aborted-fetuses-burned-incinerated-medical-waste.html No they’re not. The premise was they’re used as a fuel source. That’s so patently ridiculous that I can’t believe you’re still trying to argue this. Fuel sources are bought wholesale by the thousand tons. Who would you buy a thousand tons of aborted fetuses from? How much heat would you expect to get from them? How much would it be worth? Presumably more than the cost of obtaining the fetuses or they wouldn’t do it. What is it that you’re asking us to imagine? I’m imagining shirtless men shoveling fetuses into a boiler while a Scottish foreman shouts for more fuel. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14058 Posts
The lead speaker of the event is the guy who doesn't believe that Russians are committing war crimes and that Ukraine is simply staging them. They don't even feel the need to hide their fascism anymore. Why dog whistle when everyones already on the same page. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On May 22 2022 03:03 Doc.Rivers wrote: Turns out we all should have looked upp the facts (as should the journalists at all the liberal outlets covering this woman's testimony) because this stuff actually happens: https://www.livescience.com/45139-aborted-fetuses-burned-incinerated-medical-waste.html You're not refuting anyone's point LOL. You're making excuses for someone going on the stand and claiming that liberals want to kill babies and farm them for fuel to power your houses, and that you should think about that the next time you flip your light switch. You're bending over backwards to say "well actually, it does technically happen". It's exceedingly common for trash to be burned for fuel, and as long as people have abortions there's going to be some measure of aborted tissue that gets included in that. You're not shocking anyone. | ||
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Doc.Rivers
United States404 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22008 Posts
On May 22 2022 04:24 Doc.Rivers wrote: But they're not burned for power generation. They are not going to power a lightbulb for a second. They are burned because they have to be disposed of.I mean people are pretty clearly claiming that aborted fetuses are not regularly burned for power generation. The premise of the media outrage over the woman's testimony is that the testimony is false. But if aborted fetuses are regularly burned for power generation, then I would say the woman's testimony (or at least the portions that were quoted in this thread) is factually accurate. She did not necessarily say that aborted fetuses account for a significant percentage of power generation. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10134 Posts
On May 22 2022 04:24 Doc.Rivers wrote: I mean people are pretty clearly claiming that aborted fetuses are not regularly burned for power generation. The premise of the media outrage over the woman's testimony is that the testimony is false. But if aborted fetuses are regularly burned for power generation, then I would say the woman's testimony (or at least the portions that were quoted in this thread) is factually accurate. She did not necessarily say that aborted fetuses account for a significant percentage of power generation. Now go back to re-read that woman's claims. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On May 22 2022 03:27 NewSunshine wrote: You're not refuting anyone's point LOL. You're making excuses for someone going on the stand and claiming that liberals want to kill babies and farm them for fuel to power your houses, and that you should think about that the next time you flip your light switch. You're bending over backwards to say "well actually, it does technically happen". It's exceedingly common for trash to be burned for fuel, and as long as people have abortions there's going to be some measure of aborted tissue that gets included in that. You're not shocking anyone. Good point. It doesn’t matter if what she said is technically true. What matters is that what she didn’t say is definitely not true. Liberals do not want to kill babies and farm them for electricity! That claim is ridiculous! | ||
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