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On September 27 2019 00:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
Warren was asked by a reporter whether her administration/ethics plan would allow her own VP's kid serve on the board of a foreign company (as was the case with Biden's son). She first says "No" and then seems to back track a bit saying she needs to go back and check.

https://twitter.com/NicoleSganga/status/1177004505726107648

Seems to me she responded honestly (meaning she see's the apparent conflict) at first and then realized that it suggests there is something wrong with Biden's son's role.

How she handles this going forward will speak to what I think would be fair to expect from her administration.

On September 27 2019 00:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
Warren was asked by a reporter whether her administration/ethics plan would allow her own VP's kid serve on the board of a foreign company (as was the case with Biden's son). She first says "No" and then seems to back track a bit saying she needs to go back and check.

https://twitter.com/NicoleSganga/status/1177004505726107648

Seems to me she responded honestly (meaning she see's the apparent conflict) at first and then realized that it suggests there is something wrong with Biden's son's role.

How she handles this going forward will speak to what I think would be fair to expect from her administration.

On September 27 2019 00:24 Trainrunnef wrote:

i agree with the first part of your assessment that she sees the apparent conflict, but I think she was more worried about appearing to lie if the fact checkers decided to dig into her ethics plan and she was wrong.

But like you said how she handles this will be a good indication of her leadership/lack thereof.

On September 27 2019 00:41 redlightdistrict wrote:
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the "whistle blower" that engineered the complaint in the first place is Trump specifically to force Peloci's hand down the road of an impeachment inquiry so it will turn up nothing and the investigating will drag on and on and keep the dems from properly fending Trump off leading into the election. Distract the candidates and make them feel pressure to come out in favor of impeachment early and often. If so Warren already took the bait.

On September 27 2019 00:41 redlightdistrict wrote:
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the "whistle blower" that engineered the complaint in the first place is Trump specifically to force Peloci's hand down the road of an impeachment inquiry so it will turn up nothing and the investigating will drag on and on and keep the dems from properly fending Trump off leading into the election. Distract the candidates and make them feel pressure to come out in favor of impeachment early and often. If so Warren already took the bait.

On September 27 2019 00:41 redlightdistrict wrote:
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the "whistle blower" that engineered the complaint in the first place is Trump specifically to force Peloci's hand down the road of an impeachment inquiry so it will turn up nothing and the investigating will drag on and on and keep the dems from properly fending Trump off leading into the election. Distract the candidates and make them feel pressure to come out in favor of impeachment early and often. If so Warren already took the bait.

16:47

Former Ukrainian prosecutor says Hunter Biden did not break the law
Yuri Lutsenko, the former Ukrainian president who first raised the allegations against Hunter Biden that Rudy Giuliani urged the country to investigate again, said he did not believe the son of the former vice president had broken the law.

The Washington Post reports:

‘From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,’ former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuri Lutsenko told The Washington Post in his first interview since the disclosure of a whistleblower complaint alleging pressure by Trump on Ukraine’s president, Volodymr Zelensky.

Lutsenko’s comments about Hunter Biden — which echo what he told Bloomberg News in May — were significant because President Trump and his personal attorney Giuliani have sought to stir up suspicions about both Hunter and former vice president Joe Biden’s conduct in Ukraine in recent weeks. ...

As vice president, Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire the Lutsenko’s predecessor, Viktor Shokin, who Biden and other Western officials said was not sufficiently pursuing corruption cases. At the time, the investigation into Burisma was dormant, according to former Ukrainian and U.S. officials.

‘Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival,’ Lutsenko said.

On September 27 2019 01:06 Nouar wrote:
An interesting bit quoted from the guardian's live, that says the prosecutor general that initially implied wrongdoing by the Clinton campaign and biden's family, now says the investigation was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the removal of his predecessor, and Hunter Biden was not involved in the wrongdoing of his company anyway, as it predated his arrival :



This will put a serious stop into the allegations of biden's intervention being to save his son.

On September 27 2019 01:21 JimmiC wrote:

I'm going to save these so at the end we can go back and see.

So far we have Trump being his own whistle blower to force impeachment proceedings, which he will bend to his will to thrash the dems

And

That some unnamed group or singular Oligarch planted this to distract the masses from structural change.

Anyone else have any wild theories to throw out before we find out more?

On September 27 2019 01:06 Nouar wrote:
An interesting bit quoted from the guardian's live, that says the prosecutor general that initially implied wrongdoing by the Clinton campaign and biden's family, now says the investigation was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the removal of his predecessor, and Hunter Biden was not involved in the wrongdoing of his company anyway, as it predated his arrival :



This will put a serious stop into the allegations of biden's intervention being to save his son.

On September 27 2019 01:57 JimmiC wrote:

Someone did yes, I then asked them for clarification and they choose to not respond so it was my presumption based on their post, past posts, and non-normal reaction to not respond that this was their belief. Perhaps you could ask this person to respond to my post and then we would know for sure. But sadly until further clarification I can only work with what information I have.

On September 27 2019 01:57 JimmiC wrote:

Someone did yes, I then asked them for clarification and they choose to not respond so it was my presumption based on their post, past posts, and non-normal reaction to not respond that this was their belief. Perhaps you could ask this person to respond to my post and then we would know for sure. But sadly until further clarification I can only work with what information I have.