US Politics Mega-thread - Page 1072

On January 28 2019 12:37 Tachion wrote:
Harris doesn't strike me as the type of person to win the Midwest back from Trump. How would she appeal to the voters that Hillary lost?

On January 28 2019 14:28 Starlightsun wrote:
I just hope this time the Democratic party lets the voters select their candidate instead of preselecting who will win the primary.

What Democrats won is a continued unsecured border. Americans will continue to be victims of crimes, up to and including being murdered at the hands of people who shouldn’t be in the country in the first place, congratulations. Those criminals will continue to enjoy the protections of Democratic Party officials until they manage to cross the ever-moving line leftists draw to protect illegal aliens (basically a violent crime) and allow authorities to call ICE. Way to go! Opioid overdoses will continue to skyrocket, claiming more American lives every year than died in the entirety of the Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq Wars combined. Congratulations, Democrats.

I don’t really see how any of that is worth celebrating, but I’m not a “progressive Democrat.” I’m more interested in protecting American citizens than I am with illegal aliens or scoring political points with a race-obsessed base.

Maybe there’s a way to cut a deal, but at this point the price would be so high it likely wouldn’t be worth it. When the President Trump agreed to reopen government for three weeks because people were hurting, he lost all the leverage he had.

People hurting, people calling their Members of Congress complaining about that hurt, was the leverage.

On January 28 2019 11:53 Nebuchad wrote:


Were you trying to write the worst answer possible?

- This is a primary. We can prefer someone other than Harris without being pro-Trump!
- The massive strawman about being against rule of law if you are judicially progressive.
- Pointing out that the rightwing is terrible while trying to sell a liberal to a crowd of social democrats... Did you lick your lips while you typed that?
- She should have gone after the bankers more and you obviously know that this is something the left is holding against her so I'm not even sure what you're trying to accomplish there.

On January 28 2019 15:22 Wegandi wrote:
Voters in this country are so fucked up. Person has XYZ physical characteristic so im more inclined to vote for them and if you don't then you're XYZ ad-hominem; this goes for both houses (though it takes on a bit of a different look for R's). Just get it over with Democrats - put up a Transgender black woman who is Muslim and is a 2nd generation immigrant from who cares where. Who cares about policies, ethics, principle, etc. Just check as many identity boxes and vote for that person. This is how the Democrat Party is going to eat itself alive. I have my popcorn ready for the primaries. (This is why while I don't personally care for most Bernie bros I have an infinite amount more respect for them than the dodo identity folks)

On January 28 2019 18:43 iamthedave wrote:


The fuck are you talking about? The more I read when Republican voters talk about identity politics the more I'm convinced you're all making it up. I mean, the one people think is likely to go against Trump is Bernie, an old white dude. After him I think Biden's tipped - a slightly less old white dude - and then the field's wide open.

The propulsion of senator and lawyer Kamala Harris to front-runner status among the Democrats hoping to take on President Donald Trump in 2020 has underlined the resurgent political power of her home state.

A California senator is one of the front-runners for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination.

A California congresswoman is Speaker of the House of Representatives.

California's new governor is a young, progressive champion promising to offer an alternative to the "corruption and incompetence" of Donald Trump's White House.

The so-called Golden State has become solidly Democrat blue, and its politicians are flexing their muscles on the national stage. But this golden opportunity doesn't come without risk for the progressive cause.

On January 28 2019 20:36 Plansix wrote:
And if voters decide to vote for someone because of their background, culture and experiences living in the US (aka, race), why is that a problem? Why do people think white men got elected for the majority of US history? Sure, it was their policies. But the fact that they were white dudes factored into the equation.

On January 28 2019 20:39 iamthedave wrote:


I want a black guy to run for Republican nominee and get into the final stages. I think that would be a fascinating test of the modern Republican establishment.

On January 28 2019 15:22 Wegandi wrote:
Voters in this country are so fucked up. Person has XYZ physical characteristic so im more inclined to vote for them and if you don't then you're XYZ ad-hominem; this goes for both houses (though it takes on a bit of a different look for R's). Just get it over with Democrats - put up a Transgender black woman who is Muslim and is a 2nd generation immigrant from who cares where. Who cares about policies, ethics, principle, etc. Just check as many identity boxes and vote for that person. This is how the Democrat Party is going to eat itself alive. I have my popcorn ready for the primaries. (This is why while I don't personally care for most Bernie bros I have an infinite amount more respect for them than the dodo identity folks)

On January 28 2019 16:51 Wulfey_LA wrote:


Show your work. If you think she had laws to put bankers in jail, show it. Show how you knew the law better than her team and could have successfully prosecuted a banker all the way to jail. Please detail how you and your crack team of lawyers would have gotten around the 2000-2008 deregulation (i.e., decriminalization) of almost all banking. I can't wait to hear how you are your DAs would have done such a better job with the laws as they were.

EDIT: in case you are some how missing the point, the reason why the bankers did not go to jail for the financial crisis is because what they did was almost entirely legal. They were by and large acting within the law. Electing Republicans has consequences and Bush2 made sure almost every last mortgage scheme you can dream up was legal.

On January 28 2019 15:22 Wegandi wrote:
Voters in this country are so fucked up. Person has XYZ physical characteristic so im more inclined to vote for them and if you don't then you're XYZ ad-hominem; this goes for both houses (though it takes on a bit of a different look for R's). Just get it over with Democrats - put up a Transgender black woman who is Muslim and is a 2nd generation immigrant from who cares where. Who cares about policies, ethics, principle, etc. Just check as many identity boxes and vote for that person. This is how the Democrat Party is going to eat itself alive. I have my popcorn ready for the primaries. (This is why while I don't personally care for most Bernie bros I have an infinite amount more respect for them than the dodo identity folks)

On January 28 2019 22:40 JimmiC wrote:


So your hoping Ben Carson runs again? I think Colin Powell would have had a good shot had he ever decided to run. There is way less African Americans for the Reps but they have a couple.

On January 28 2019 21:12 mierin wrote:


It'd be a great test of the Democratic establishment too. It's like the sweating guy hitting the button meme...vote for a minority Republican, or a white Democrat?

On January 28 2019 22:40 JimmiC wrote:


So your hoping Ben Carson runs again? I think Colin Powell would have had a good shot had he ever decided to run. There is way less African Americans for the Reps but they have a couple.