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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 09 2016 17:04 GMT
#281
On July 10 2016 01:55 Kerence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 01:15 pellejohnson wrote:
On July 10 2016 01:01 Kerence wrote:
On July 10 2016 00:07 pellejohnson wrote:
On July 09 2016 11:38 Faruko wrote:
Greed in a charity event ?

Ok


You do realize that the organizers are paid depending on how much money they raise right?


Uh, no? GDQ was paid in advance by MSF, MSF gets 100% of what they manage to collect during the event.

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Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/4rwoqe/does_agdqsgdq_take_a_cut_from_the_donations/d55bvb0


Sure, you could maybe say that GDQ will get more or less money next year depending on what they manage to get this year, but that's stretching it a bit imo.


The amount they were paid this event was based on the last event thus the more they receive this event the more they will receive the next event. Not sure how that is stretching it


Since the amount is agreed on beforehand by setting up a budget you don't actually know that. If the budget is way out of line MSF will probably not agree. It's not like they get a flat percentage next year depending on how they did this year. MSF could just as well pay out less money next year (or decide that it isn't worth it at all).

Now, I think GDQ probably runs a profit on these events, but I also don't think there's a bunch of people getting rich from this.

I believe they said somewhere that MSF provides funding at roughly 17% of the amount of expected money raised.

Which, when you get down to it, is actually money required to run events this large. Renting the space alone is a giant cash pit.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-09 17:14:29
July 09 2016 17:10 GMT
#282
On July 10 2016 02:04 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 01:55 Kerence wrote:
On July 10 2016 01:15 pellejohnson wrote:
On July 10 2016 01:01 Kerence wrote:
On July 10 2016 00:07 pellejohnson wrote:
On July 09 2016 11:38 Faruko wrote:
Greed in a charity event ?

Ok


You do realize that the organizers are paid depending on how much money they raise right?


Uh, no? GDQ was paid in advance by MSF, MSF gets 100% of what they manage to collect during the event.

+ Show Spoiler +
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/4rwoqe/does_agdqsgdq_take_a_cut_from_the_donations/d55bvb0


Sure, you could maybe say that GDQ will get more or less money next year depending on what they manage to get this year, but that's stretching it a bit imo.


The amount they were paid this event was based on the last event thus the more they receive this event the more they will receive the next event. Not sure how that is stretching it


Since the amount is agreed on beforehand by setting up a budget you don't actually know that. If the budget is way out of line MSF will probably not agree. It's not like they get a flat percentage next year depending on how they did this year. MSF could just as well pay out less money next year (or decide that it isn't worth it at all).

Now, I think GDQ probably runs a profit on these events, but I also don't think there's a bunch of people getting rich from this.

I believe they said somewhere that MSF provides funding at roughly 17% of the amount of expected money raised.

Which, when you get down to it, is actually money required to run events this large. Renting the space alone is a giant cash pit.


I think the 17% was from PCF at ADGQ. It's possible MSF does something similar I guess.
Yeah, it does cost a bit to run these events.

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If anyone is really interested the numbers for AGDQ2016 (not this event) can be found here: https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/agdq2016_budget_overview.html to get some feeling for where the money goes.

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pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
July 09 2016 17:12 GMT
#283
Of course it costs a lot to run it but the problem is the way they are abusing underpaid staff so that the top names can make a whole lot of money for nothing. The fact that the speedrunners themselves have to pay attendance fee is pretty shameful if you ask me
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-09 17:22:40
July 09 2016 17:18 GMT
#284
Hyped for Pokemon. Shenanagans is just an excellent speaker. Both wr recordholders running+ Keizameme and Extratricky. Hyyyype.
As a long time Gunner sub... Go Gunner
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Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-09 18:48:29
July 09 2016 17:22 GMT
#285
On July 10 2016 02:12 pellejohnson wrote:
Of course it costs a lot to run it but the problem is the way they are abusing underpaid staff so that the top names can make a whole lot of money for nothing. The fact that the speedrunners themselves have to pay attendance fee is pretty shameful if you ask me

No real way to know if the staff is underpaid unless you have some source on that. But it certainly isn't impossible, that would be pretty common in general I suppose?

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The fact that the speedrunners have to pay the fee I can agree on though, they should get in free imo.


[Edit]
Apparently the speedrunners and volunteers do get in free now.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 09 2016 17:24 GMT
#286
Wow there are flower tiles in the grass that don't generate random attacks

My childhood
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
July 09 2016 17:24 GMT
#287
On July 10 2016 02:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Wow there are flower tiles in the grass that don't generate random attacks

My childhood

As long as you're playing red/blue. Yellow has encounters.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 09 2016 17:31 GMT
#288
I like how they call a Kakanu using harden terrifying
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greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
July 09 2016 17:40 GMT
#289
On July 10 2016 01:54 Dingodile wrote:
How is secret cow level in hell? if you kill the king, you can never visit it again?

If you kill the king on a specific difficulty, you cant open the cow level on this difficutly again. its a hidden quest in the cow level and if you succed, its done and over. With multiplayer the rule is a bit more complex. Also for singleplayer you have work arounds, edit a file so you can kill the king as often as you like or use plugy, which kinda does the same.
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
July 09 2016 17:59 GMT
#290
On July 10 2016 02:22 Kerence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 02:12 pellejohnson wrote:
Of course it costs a lot to run it but the problem is the way they are abusing underpaid staff so that the top names can make a whole lot of money for nothing. The fact that the speedrunners themselves have to pay attendance fee is pretty shameful if you ask me

No real way to know if the staff is underpaid unless you have some source on that. But it certainly isn't impossible, that would be pretty common in general I suppose?
The fact that the speedrunners have to pay the fee I can agree on though, they should get in free imo.



Runners and volunteers have not had to pay the registration fee since SGDQ 2015. AGDQ 2016 and SGDQ 2016 had free registration for accepted runners and volunteers.
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
July 09 2016 18:06 GMT
#291
On July 10 2016 02:59 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 02:22 Kerence wrote:
On July 10 2016 02:12 pellejohnson wrote:
Of course it costs a lot to run it but the problem is the way they are abusing underpaid staff so that the top names can make a whole lot of money for nothing. The fact that the speedrunners themselves have to pay attendance fee is pretty shameful if you ask me

No real way to know if the staff is underpaid unless you have some source on that. But it certainly isn't impossible, that would be pretty common in general I suppose?
The fact that the speedrunners have to pay the fee I can agree on though, they should get in free imo.



Runners and volunteers have not had to pay the registration fee since SGDQ 2015. AGDQ 2016 and SGDQ 2016 had free registration for accepted runners and volunteers.

Ah, I didn't know they had changed it. Thanks.
I am here in the shadows.
sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-09 19:58:16
July 09 2016 19:31 GMT
#292
At the rate they're going, this SGDQ is going to finish well beyond 3am

Sort of sucks, but at least the last game I'm interested in watching will be the Super Metroid race

edit: I thought FFVI was gonna be 6 hours long. Guess they will finish before 3am, but still way later than originally scheduled
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 09 2016 19:39 GMT
#293
Just listening to these guys, I could have saved so much time playing this as a kid.
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
July 09 2016 20:00 GMT
#294
On July 10 2016 04:39 ThomasjServo wrote:
Just listening to these guys, I could have saved so much time playing this as a kid.

But there's no real need to rush through the game when you enjoy it, is there?
I am here in the shadows.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 09 2016 20:04 GMT
#295
On July 10 2016 05:00 Kerence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 04:39 ThomasjServo wrote:
Just listening to these guys, I could have saved so much time playing this as a kid.

But there's no real need to rush through the game when you enjoy it, is there?

Nah, I was just having a bit of fun. I only have fond memories of Pokemon because my brother had Red and I had Blue and despite the fact that I am five years younger than him, I remember kicking his ass over the GB link as a kid.

HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-09 21:19:23
July 09 2016 20:23 GMT
#296
here we go with the amazing tas runs

ALL WATCH THE MARIO BROS RUN
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Artesimo
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany563 Posts
July 09 2016 21:34 GMT
#297
What exactly is so special about TAS playing 4 games at the same time? TAS is awesome for sure, but unless all inputs where the same (which they where not), it wouldn't matter how many games he plays at the same time. Still nice though, but so far no TAS-run entertained me more than the N64 Mario Cart run. That shit was hilarious and impressive at the same time.
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
July 09 2016 21:35 GMT
#298
On July 10 2016 06:34 Artesimo wrote:
What exactly is so special about TAS playing 4 games at the same time? TAS is awesome for sure, but unless all inputs where the same (which they where not), it wouldn't matter how many games he plays at the same time. Still nice though, but so far no TAS-run entertained me more than the N64 Mario Cart run. That shit was hilarious and impressive at the same time.

The inputs were the same.
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Artesimo
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany563 Posts
July 09 2016 21:37 GMT
#299
On July 10 2016 06:35 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote:
The inputs were the same.


You sure? Because the movement wasn't at all.
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
July 09 2016 21:38 GMT
#300
On July 10 2016 06:37 Artesimo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 06:35 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote:
The inputs were the same.


You sure? Because the movement wasn't at all.

Yes, it was the same input. But the latency for the games was different, so the inputs were not in sync for the whole run.
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