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On January 12 2007 17:39 GoBOXERgogo wrote:
Because I have a girl I love and wish I could spend eternity with. The fact I believe when we die we just rot in the ground makes it worse knowing I'll never see her again. Thats my only fear for dieing, but I honestly never think about it.
me too, except I do think about it, and it makes me feel empty inside:p
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ir not afraid of death, just certain ways to die
LIKE MURDER STAB IN THE FACE
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On January 13 2007 01:06 bearnet2001 wrote:
I'm afraid to die because I inherited a gene that makes me that way. That gene was passed on to me because the people who did not have that gene (or at least one that created such a strong fear) died, leaving the people with the death-fearing-gene to live, reproduce, and pass on their genes.
Everyone who is trying to explain an emotion with a thinking reason completely missed the boat on this one - you don't 'feel' because you 'think a certain thought': for example, you don't feel happy when a particularly hot girl talks to you because you have some intellectual reason to, you simply have the genetic makeup that makes you feel that way. Similarly, you aren't afraid (emotion) to die because of some though or reason, you simply have the genetic makeup that makes you feel that way.
Well said, we are all conditioned to fear death.
As far as believing in God goes, I find it so cowardly and dishonest to tell yourself God exists only for the fear of getting punished for not believing (if he does exist). I suppose older people, that are closer to death, deserve the comfort, but the rest are just unconsciously settling for what feels best and not for what is closer to the truth.
Religion brings many answers to apparently unanswerable questions and thus brings comfort. Not to say believing in God is wrong, just don't let your mind push you into believing something just because it can't handle the idea of "not knowing". If you're going to believe in God, do it for the right reasons.
I guess some may argue that as long as the questions are unanswerable, believing in something is better than not, and will lead to a more peaceful life. That may be true, it's a personal preferece if you name that to be dishonesty to yourself or not.
Is it really so hard to admit that we just don't know what happens when we die?
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All fun things come to an end.
Life is fun.
I don't wanna die.
Shit.
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Im not afraid to die
Ill live on in Apollons house
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I just can't imagine not being here, if that makes any sense.
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How easy it would be to say I don't fear dying. Warm, safe, jaded... In a cold dangerous place where the cruel reality sinks in that everything might not turn out alright, I'd be scared as hell.
Looking at it logically, death is the only certainty in our existence and fearing the inevitable does seem rather pointless. Of course fearing anything could be considered rather pointless.
Instincts and rationality aside.. Could I die this very moment perfectly at peace? No, I could not.
Because if I died now I have a feeling I'd have fucked up. Rationalizing consequences and potential guilt matters little. I don't have that certain something of a wise old chief who has some day had enough and goes on a mountain to pass away serenely. The feeling that you have to do something
to not fail the year but don't know what or if it's even possible sure sucks ^^
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I do not fear death at all.
I do believe we have a soul. I also believe we go somewhere after we die, and leave our body. To be honest I believe in reincarnation, and death is by no means the end. We all know that day has to come one day. There is no way to avoid it. So I just try to live this life as best as I can, try to have fun, try different things etc.
About being forgotten part.
99% of us will be forgotten after we die. Only the names of the ones that did something big in life are remembered. We will all be forgotten (after we die) even by our family. Why does it bother you so much? Let it go and have fun!
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I don't fear death. Probably would be if I was going to, but right now i'm not really bothered.
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On January 13 2007 06:08 infecteddna wrote:
How easy it would be to say I don't fear dying. Warm, safe, jaded... In a cold dangerous place where the cruel reality sinks in that everything might not turn out alright, I'd be scared as hell.
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That is true but you wouldn`t fear death itself, only the way of dying.
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The reason why people are afraid of dying is because they are unhappy with there current life. They feel they havent accomplished what they wanted so they want to die feeling damn i had a good life. Its with me im afraid of dying right now cause there is so much to do so much more experiences like drinking, sex, college, jobs and stuff and to die now would be so wasted.
I also fear the way i want to die. I want to die a peaceful and painless death. Nothing graphic and i dont want to die and im afraid of dying but these day im trying to do stuff so in case i do die i will die free of regret instead of waiting for a car to just hit me.
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"life's a laugh and death's a joke"
i admit i am kind of afraid to die, but the concept of life and death is not new.
and from a strictly objective point of view, it doesnt make any sense that i should care any more about my death than everyone else would. which, at the moment, doesnt include THAT many people.
edit: german joke that just fits the topic so well.
+ Show Spoiler +Wenn ich mal sterbe, möchte ich so sterben wie mein Opa. Ruhig und friedlich im Schlaf. Nicht schreiend und kreischend wie sein Beifahrer. 
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"I'd rather be shot to rags than waste away in a rocking chair" -Ambrose Bierce
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On January 13 2007 01:06 bearnet2001 wrote:
I'm afraid to die because I inherited a gene that makes me that way. That gene was passed on to me because the people who did not have that gene (or at least one that created such a strong fear) died, leaving the people with the death-fearing-gene to live, reproduce, and pass on their genes.
Everyone who is trying to explain an emotion with a thinking reason completely missed the boat on this one - you don't 'feel' because you 'think a certain thought': for example, you don't feel happy when a particularly hot girl talks to you because you have some intellectual reason to, you simply have the genetic makeup that makes you feel that way. Similarly, you aren't afraid (emotion) to die because of some though or reason, you simply have the genetic makeup that makes you feel that way.
one gene by itself couldn't be the cause of the fear of death. this is an oversimplification, although you are probably on the right track.
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On January 13 2007 01:15 bearnet2001 wrote:
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If you believe in God and God does not exist, nothing happens.
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i like to think that spending countless sundays sitting in a boring church is time better spent playing bw
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On January 13 2007 06:08 infecteddna wrote:
Looking at it logically, death is the only certainty in our existence and fearing the inevitable does seem rather pointless. Of course fearing anything could be considered rather pointless.
fearing death is the same as fearing venomous snakes, fear of heights, fear of dying in boiling water, fear of being murdered, etc. etc.
how come people don't seem to understand that they are one and the same?
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The Unknown. People fear what they don't understand.
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I was almost 100% certain I was going to die last night. Fuck I was scared.
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On January 13 2007 10:30 CoralReefer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2007 06:08 infecteddna wrote:
Looking at it logically, death is the only certainty in our existence and fearing the inevitable does seem rather pointless. Of course fearing anything could be considered rather pointless.
fearing death is the same as fearing venomous snakes, fear of heights, fear of dying in boiling water, fear of being murdered, etc. etc. how come people don't seem to understand that they are one and the same?
probably because pain and death are not the same thing?
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On January 13 2007 14:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Unknown. People fear what they don't understand.
That's not true at all.
Before i was inspired by death, i was in great fear of it. And it wasn't the not knowing what happens when i die, it was knowing exactly what happens. We cease to exist. Our conciousness disappears into oblivion; we cease to be able to think, feel, or be aware. We simply are not.
And that was much scarrier than just not knowing what happens. When a person realizes the enormity of death, the finality, the true End of life, a terrible fear, or more accurately, a dibilitating horror paralyzes them. It's fantastical and wicked and encompassing. The fear of the unknown is trivial in comparison.
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