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Russian Federation4447 Posts
It IS a matter of attitude.
Erase the negative / pessimistic thoughts completely from your mind and you will see the difference.
Everything is cause and effect. Thoughts are the first causes of every human effect. Make sure you always think positively and optimistically, and the chances of you producing things in life that matter to other people / make their lives better will increase 1000 fold. Not only that, you will lay the seeds of prosperity and happiness for the millions of people whom haven't even been born yet.
We're all in this together. We all want humanity to survive and prosper well against hostile aliens / meteors / diseases / etc etc. Dedicate your life to something larger than life itself and it WILL matter.
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
Stop worrying about things you can't control. It is a total waste of time and energy and serves no purpose other than to preach doom and gloom to other people so that they in turn can preach doom and gloom.
Start focusing on things you CAN control and give it 90% of your time and energy.
Don't even allow those negative thoughts to even creep up in your mind. Take a baseball bat, whack em, smack em, and forget about em.
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u people think small , really small ; let's say u make something ; something that people will remember u for , then u die all happy and shit of you achievements , accomplishments...
one day later a meteorite hits the earth and brings humanity to extinction - who will remember u then? nobody of course + youre worst fear will come true
OK fine, maybe the universe is a simulation and it will stop a second after you read this line, on the other hand maybe not, (probably not if you're still reading...heh) but what's the use to base your actions on such assumptions? humanity may be wiped out eventually, but we could do some interesting stuff meanwhile, to this end I personally decided to focus on developing technology.
I guess it's similar to voting - you do it because you believe you're pushing things in the right direction, but honestly your _individual_ vote barely makes any difference. So that's how I view my work. It doesn't make much difference, but I'm part of a greater whole that actually does have meaningful effect on the world, and that's enough motivation for me - I'm just not kidding myself that my personal contribution means that much on its own, or that my life will otherwise matter in its own right.
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I'm not, of course when thinking of the concept of eternity it seems a bit scary.
For example the people who think about heaven for eternity......do you ever try to really grasp what eternity is? Would heaven eventually get dull? What about people who have had multiple spouses due to being a widow or something. Who do they stay with? I mean granted my questions about heaven aren't very spiritual but meh.
I dont really think about it, to me its not the fear of death thats scary, its the fear of eternity.
The one thing I do have a fear of is humanity being gone, I mean like the human race being extinct and no one like us to be around. Maybe thats because Id be forgotten who knows.
When i first learned about death and being gone forever at a very young age(maybe like 2-3 years old) I am sure I was affraid, but then I guess it went to the back of my mind and I don't think about it. Even when a person dies I generally don't think about it. Maybe im numb to the idea of death who knows.
Ive definitely thought about life not having a point though, like being in a lifelong relationship with someone and then all of a sudden you are a widow or something, or getting divorced at an old age would suck. Watching a special about Ants yesterday on the animal planet to me really showed that our lives are sort of insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but its the affect of those around us that make us different than ants (shit though who knows if ants have feeling too =-) )
Rambled but
Just some thoughts I guess
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EmS.Radagast im behind u 100%  ; i did not say u shouldnt do it i just said that (your posterity)should not be the reason for witch you make peace with death
but i see what u said like a 2 way street
1)you and your greater whole can and will have some meaningful effect on the world , thing that will make u see death as a next step and nothing more (since you'll live thru you good deeds , deeds that will generate more good deeds...etc ; so you are a small part of the future and in some cheesy way you feel immortal
2)the egotistical side of you will say : after all i've done for this people i still die . goddamnit!
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We be frighten we be men
Men be living not be spent
If die we not be men
You are typing in this screen
You are alive as fish in stream
Live as you are and you remain
Remain alive death you refrain
And thus you put on your constrain
Stay alive you say, for you must retain
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It's all relative kids. Have some ice cream!
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I didn't read the thread and this may be not what the original poster asked for, but there is a simple causal explanation for why I fear death, and that is that fear of death is a survival trait, and I am an organism.
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I'm afraid that death CAN be something bad, also i feel uneasy when i think of the possibility of not being me anymore losing contact with my relatives, girlfriend and friends, fear is it.
that's very much like having alzheimer's disease, i fear this very much more than a cancer that would harm my body (tough this is scary)
To continue with this topic, but with another question:
If you could chose to know what happens when you die, would you chose to know, or would you chose to carry on with yoru life, not knowing what happens when you die?
Explain your choice aswell.
i'd like to know it by any means, knowledge is power and i'd rather know it even if it was something bad, not always ignorance is bliss imho
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On January 12 2007 17:39 Jumpingworm wrote:
Haven't experienced everything I want to experience in life yet.
Though when dead I'd probably not really be aware of that :p
exactly.
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i can't think like you guys, saying "it's not under my control so i won't worry about it" just because what we have is complete ignorance about death, it could even be "worried ---> happy ever after, noncaring bitches ----> nothingness"
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or maybe those dying with a red hat would live forever in another parallel universe...
complete ignorance i say
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you can not worry about what people think about you after you die, or how they remember you
because you'll be dead
enjoy life now while you have it instead of ponder ways to be remembered when you wont have the chance to see it anyway
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On January 14 2007 06:08 TS-Rupbar wrote:
I don't want my friends to be sad
agree...
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I'm not really afraid because I think death is part of what makes life beautiful. Imagine a good book that instead of ending just kept going and going, it would suck. My idea is to fill life with as much good memories as possible. Whether there is an afterlife or not to me is irrelevant. Whether anyone remembers me or not is irrelevant. No matter what, nothing will ever change the fact that you had your life and you lived it as you saw fit. That for me is enough to want to make it count.
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Calgary26004 Posts
I don't agree with much that's been said in this thread. I come from a pretty scientific and logical background; I put little thought in spirituality. But here's a thought from a movie I found interesting (Again, I'm no biologist, nor a doctor; everything I say may be innacurate):
When you dream, your brain is still alive and working in a lessoned form, as your consciousness is lost. Although you are no long conscious, you're definately still sentient. When you are asleep and have a dream, you can remember it as if it happened to you. So althought you're not "awake" you are still able to experience the things your brain is telling you.
Also, as I'm sure many people have experienced, when you have a dream, it seems much, much longer than it actually is. You can feel like you've been dreaming for hours, but it was actually only 5 minutes.
This movie offers that once you "die" (heart stops beating), your brain is still able function on this lesser level for around 6 minutes. A level where you are "dead", but you might not actually be; you aren't receiving any outside information through your senses, but you can still experience the things your brain is telling you, much like a dream.
If you choose to believe this, there's a lot of possibilities. Realizing that a dream that lasts only 5 minutes may feel like hours, it's not impossible to imagine that while dying, you are able to experience days and possibly years worth of experiences. Your life "flashing before your eyes", may actually be more truth than a simple expression. You would be able to revist years worth of memories in the 6 minutes before your brain stops working. The movie said that people experience entire second lives while they are dying; this begs the question of are YOU alive now or have you died and are simply experiencing your second life?
If you choose to believe everything up to this point, consider the fact that these 6 minutes would not be so happy. It could equally feel like a lifetime of torment. Essentially, a lifetime of hell before you are actually "dead".
Anyways, I don't believe in the afterlife. As I said, my background just doesn't allow me to believe it because it doesn't make sense to me. When you're dead, you're dead. However, I do believe some people believe they've been to hell or to heaven; the brain is a powerful thing once you are in a state that isn't normal (sickness, drug-induced, near-death, etc.).
The movie was called Waking Life for anyone insterested, and I haven't seen it sober in years so what I've said might not actually be 100% accurate of what the movie said. It's possible I've added my own thoughts inbetween O_o
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What THE Hell !!?!!? why would someone be afraid of death thats just weird (or atleast imo) :S i mean why should people be afraid of the inevidabel, its not like u can avoid death so why be afraid of DEATH....
Now here we get to the point, nobodys afraid of death but the fact when u die, because people dont wanna die young ( because they havent experienced, play sc enough blah blah blah...)
<---- ok that was totally useless, just wanted to make a correction unless it was OBVIOUS already... rofl anyways...
But we all must remember WE ONLY LIVE ONCE, meaning do whatever you can here and now in this world and cut some slack on things and DONT WASTE YOUR LIFE on stupid things, most importantly be happy, even if being lonely and playing sc for like 16h day and being overweight and ugly and having no relations makes u happy then live like that but.... uhh whatever....
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Cuz of Necrophiles 
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