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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17261 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-23 03:45:06
February 23 2025 03:28 GMT
#2001
Didn't Justin's father teach him about the dangers of nationalism?
https://x.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1892817666093506607

The Team Canada sweaters, which are selling for $600+, are made in the USA. LOLOL.
On February 15 2025 15:42 ppdealer wrote:
@JimmyJRaynor
15 years is more than Trudeau has been in power.

ok, and?
On February 15 2025 15:42 ppdealer wrote:
USA is actively threatening harm on Canada

Albertans' lives will be better if they strike a sovereignty association type deal with Canada and the USA and get a proper pipeline for their crude. It might make them a US state that will vote Republican a lot as well. Trump does not want all of Canada. Trump wants Alberta and its oil. Trump is promising that the lives of the average Albertan will be better.

Canada decided to tie itself inextricably to the USA. The % of exports to the USA keep rising... that's on Canada. Ontario is more easily able to trade with New York state than with the province of Quebec. That is on Canada. Canada's really bad interprovincial trade barriers are not Trump's issue. Canada fucked itself into the ground by entering the Paris Accord. If Canadians are really the "best friend" of America they'd stand with America and leave the Paris Accord.

Don't worry though: Justin Trudeau is going to save the universe by protecting the french language... native Canadians and the environment. All of Canada's amazing environmental protections are going to be hilarious alongside the USA while they burn coal, frack, and drill for oil.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"The largest contributor to carbon emissions is the energy and raw materials used in asphalt production."
On February 05 2025 02:49 kidleaderr wrote:
in the 0.1% happiness class but contributes to 90% of the posts in this thread raging about a country you no longer reside in. sounds like a happy 37 year old to me. weirdo.

<<Raynor Dad Voice>> : "son, I am not angry; I am just disappointed"
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ppdealer
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada163 Posts
March 04 2025 10:04 GMT
#2002
Still thinks Trump's promises mean anything.
Still thinks the US is cool and good to be friend with.

Who gives a fuck about what benefits Trump or his part of the US (just the part he likes)? There are ways to make friends and there's being arrogant, entitled and selfish. Just because you believe YOU have it so much better doesn't mean you can now cause active harm to others to further enrich yourselves.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17261 Posts
March 04 2025 14:33 GMT
#2003
When is Justin Trudeau going to re-open parliament? LOL.
https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/statements/2025/03/03/statement-prime-minister-trudeau-on-unjustified-us-tariffs-against-canada

Interesting that Mexico has yet to retaliate. Canada hit back first and hardest.
https://halifax.citynews.ca/2025/03/04/nova-scotia-hits-back-at-u-s-tariffs-with-procurement-limits-toll-hike-and-alcohol-ban/

Doug Ford is making all kinds of crazy threats. Ontario has been in a long slow decline since 2009. People are moving out of Ontario in droves. Ontario is super fucked. Toronto is a pretty ugly place these days... it is going to get brutal.
https://fox59.com/news/national-world/canadian-premier-says-he-will-cut-off-electricity-exports-to-us-with-a-smile-on-my-face/

I think Mexico has done a better job so far than Canada in dealing with the tariff issue. I think Canada and its PM have gone unhinged.
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kidleaderr
Profile Joined April 2013
365 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-04 15:19:18
March 04 2025 15:17 GMT
#2004
little jimmy got picked on as a little kid and this is his only avenue to release all his trauma. weirdo.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17261 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-04 17:55:23
March 04 2025 17:50 GMT
#2005
A woman in Freeland's position can not afford to look ridiculous. Too late though.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/03/03/british-nuclear-weapons-canada-trump-chrystia-freeland/

Trump has done a nice job making Freeland look like a moron. I knew she was an intellectual lightweight... But I did not think she could say things this silly.

If the USA wants to invade it is over in a few days. Nukes not required.

Regarding the tariffs...
I guess , out of all provinces, Alberta got the best deal. Only a 10% tariff on it's energy exports. Ontario is super fucked and I think their newly elected Premier's response is incorrect.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4215 Posts
March 05 2025 14:08 GMT
#2006
Jimmy, the Canadian population made it very clear in recent polls that we do not want to re-elect Trudeau. He's done. People finally grew wise and realized that an ex-drama teacher who got into that position due to nepotism was a bad person to run our country. I don't like him. Legalizing weed was about the only good thing he's done. But it came at the cost of "the budget will balance itself" and his ridiculous antics over the years. So he's finally stepping down and letting the party figure out a new leader before a new election is called. This is the best thing for the Canadian population. We deserve a chance to vote for a party and leader that we want, and more options are better than less in a first-past-the-post system. You can definitely make a good argument that he should have stepped down sooner, but this is where we are.

The Conservatives and NDP have both made very clear threats to call a vote of non-confidence and force an election before the Liberals could sort out a new leader. Politically, that is a smart move by the parties, but it's awful for us as Canadians, because it removes our practical option of voting for the liberals and knowing who we are voting for.

Hypothetically, if this was back when the Conservatives were in power, and the polls showed that Harper was going to lose the next election, it would have been good for him to step down and let the party sort out a new leader before the next election. If the Liberals and NDP threatened to call a vote of non-confidence to force an election before a new leader was sorted out, you'd be screaming about how dirty of a political move that is. Because it is dirty politics. We wouldn't be in this stupid situation right now where our government is on pause if these threats of calling an election weren't made. I'm actually pissed off at both the NDP and Conservatives for pulling this stunt.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17261 Posts
March 05 2025 15:37 GMT
#2007
On March 05 2025 23:08 Impervious wrote:
Jimmy, the Canadian population made it very clear in recent polls that we do not want to re-elect Trudeau. He's done.

when did i say Trudeau was getting re elected? umm, the Canadian population has made it clear for over 5 years they do not like Trudeau. Each of his last 2 "wins" made him the lowest popular vote PM in Canadian history in both "re elections".
Less popular than Joe Clark.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4215 Posts
March 05 2025 16:00 GMT
#2008
Right. So of all the shit things he's done over the last decade, proroguing parliament is one of the things I can actually agree with..... And you can thank the Conservatives and NDP for that.....
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17261 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-06 15:08:04
March 06 2025 15:04 GMT
#2009
he should've resigned a year ago when it was dead obvious he would not get re-elected. The Liberals would have a new leader and be ready to take on the newly elected Prez that everyone knows is a wild man. When you have the lowest popular vote of any PM 2 elections in a row and you do not get the message... you are living in a dream world. Justin's flower child mom did him no favours. By her own admission she is out of her mind. Justin has shown much delusion in this past 2 years.

Hey guys! This just in!
Canada has been taken over by Mexican Cartels!
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-adviser-insists-canada-has-been-taken-over-by-mexican-cartels/

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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
March 19 2025 18:45 GMT
#2010
The mayor or Toronto is canceling EV incentives for Tesla cars and Canadian prime minister candidate Chrystia Freeland wants to put a 100% tariff on tesla vehicles. Those of you that support using the power of government to punish people for their wrongthink can rejoice that Elon is getting his comeuppance.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1452 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-19 18:52:09
March 19 2025 18:50 GMT
#2011
On March 20 2025 03:45 BlackJack wrote:
The mayor or Toronto is canceling EV incentives for Tesla cars and Canadian prime minister candidate Chrystia Freeland wants to put a 100% tariff on tesla vehicles. Those of you that support using the power of government to punish people for their wrongthink can rejoice that Elon is getting his comeuppance.

Are tariffs wrongthink? I always thought of them as action in a trade war. This sounds a lot more like fuck around and find out.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5048 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-19 19:01:25
March 19 2025 19:01 GMT
#2012
BJ, government works by the support of the people. That's the entire reason it exists, literally. If the people want to punish Tesla because it's associated with Elon Musk, it's entirely justified bybthe government to pursue that.
People think Musk is being a big shit, so government acts accordingly. Very simple, very by the book serving the people.
Taxes are for Terrans
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
March 19 2025 19:19 GMT
#2013
On March 20 2025 04:01 Uldridge wrote:
BJ, government works by the support of the people. That's the entire reason it exists, literally. If the people want to punish Tesla because it's associated with Elon Musk, it's entirely justified bybthe government to pursue that.
People think Musk is being a big shit, so government acts accordingly. Very simple, very by the book serving the people.


sounds like an argument you've plagiarized from joseph mccarthy or j edgar hoover
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1452 Posts
March 19 2025 19:28 GMT
#2014
A targeted public financial counter attack. Feels like Elon has never watched a hockey game and didn't realize when the gloves come off we are not friendly and polite anymore, its elbows up time.

Bunch of Canadian airlines are reducing their flights stateside because a lack of interest. The people who think Canadians are cool with the "trolling" are drastically underestimating the long term damage president Elon and his vice Donald have done to US Canadian relations.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5048 Posts
March 19 2025 20:00 GMT
#2015
On March 20 2025 04:19 BlackJack wrote:
sounds like an argument you've plagiarized from joseph mccarthy or j edgar hoover

Do you understand the idea of a public servant?
Taxes are for Terrans
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
March 19 2025 20:05 GMT
#2016
On March 20 2025 05:00 Uldridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 04:19 BlackJack wrote:
sounds like an argument you've plagiarized from joseph mccarthy or j edgar hoover

Do you understand the idea of a public servant?


Do you understand the idea of freedom of speech, civil liberties, minority rights? There's a little more nuance than 'if the majority supports it then the government is justified in doing it to serve the people' and there are countless examples of history where this idea would be viewed unfavorably
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1452 Posts
March 19 2025 20:10 GMT
#2017
On March 20 2025 05:05 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 05:00 Uldridge wrote:
On March 20 2025 04:19 BlackJack wrote:
sounds like an argument you've plagiarized from joseph mccarthy or j edgar hoover

Do you understand the idea of a public servant?


Do you understand the idea of freedom of speech, civil liberties, minority rights? There's a little more nuance than 'if the majority supports it then the government is justified in doing it to serve the people' and there are countless examples of history where this idea would be viewed unfavorably

ROLF! It wasn't because he used speech, it is not because he's a minority and it has nothing to do with civil liberties. He has somehow taken power of a foreign nation unelected and is waging a trade war on us. We fired back, more to come.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2640 Posts
March 19 2025 20:14 GMT
#2018
On March 20 2025 05:10 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 05:05 BlackJack wrote:
On March 20 2025 05:00 Uldridge wrote:
On March 20 2025 04:19 BlackJack wrote:
sounds like an argument you've plagiarized from joseph mccarthy or j edgar hoover

Do you understand the idea of a public servant?


Do you understand the idea of freedom of speech, civil liberties, minority rights? There's a little more nuance than 'if the majority supports it then the government is justified in doing it to serve the people' and there are countless examples of history where this idea would be viewed unfavorably

ROLF! It wasn't because he used speech, it is not because he's a minority and it has nothing to do with civil liberties. He has somehow taken power of a foreign nation unelected and is waging a trade war on us. We fired back, more to come.


What's more telling to me is the implications this play has. It says 'Hey, we see you're establishing an oligarchy. We're going to attack one of your oligarchs directly; if you're not establishing an oligarchy, then this shouldn't matter to you. How much does this matter to you?"

Ofc it's likely that Trump will reframe it as an attack on all america, but still...
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4215 Posts
March 19 2025 20:26 GMT
#2019
The most hilarious part is that we're in a trade war with China regarding EV's right now lol. We slapped a 100% tariff on Chinese EV's, which was done to support the domestic EV market. Except as Canada does not produce EVs, we are doing it to support American EV companies..... In return, they slapped tariffs on a bunch of our exports.

Yes, we're in a trade war with China to support America..... However, it's nowhere near as impactful for us as the one we're in with the USA..... This is yet another hilarious example of how we've actually been damn good neighbors, and this trade war between Canada and the USA is stupid.

I think some of you do not understand how much resentment this trade war and especially the threats to our sovereignty are causing here in Canada, and how much support our population has for these types of moves by our government. They're doing this as a reaction to us, not the other way around. And it goes way beyond Musk at this point. We're pushing our politicians to cancel the remaining part of the F35 deal, and move away from the US for any and all future military related contracts. We're pushing our politicians to build pipelines for oil and natural gas to ship more to Asia and Europe to be less dependent on exporting to the USA. We're pushing our politicians to work with Europe to re-tool our manufacturing to keep us close with Europe as they are currently pushing themselves towards rearmament. Etc. We can't trust you as a neighbor anymore.
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5048 Posts
March 19 2025 20:38 GMT
#2020
On March 20 2025 05:05 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 05:00 Uldridge wrote:
On March 20 2025 04:19 BlackJack wrote:
sounds like an argument you've plagiarized from joseph mccarthy or j edgar hoover

Do you understand the idea of a public servant?


Do you understand the idea of freedom of speech, civil liberties, minority rights? There's a little more nuance than 'if the majority supports it then the government is justified in doing it to serve the people' and there are countless examples of history where this idea would be viewed unfavorably

Sure and we learn from them and we adjust our laws and ethical framework accordingly. What's your point? Democracies are ruled by majorities and pushed back - when needed - by the opposition. Canadians bought 70% less Teslas than the quarter before. The public is already making its statement regarding Elon. I don't necessarily think it's needed to slap tariffs on the product as well, but what you don't need, you don't need to pay up. Quite a symbolic message from the Canadian government to the shadow president.
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