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On March 20 2025 17:09 Falling wrote: The wrong think/Hoover angle is all wrong.
Your administration initiated a trade war intended to ruin our economy and the only consistently clear and coherent remedy we have been offered is to accept annexation as the 51st State. You best believe we're going to go after all Trump's allies regardless of what they think on any given topic.
The government isn't obliged to give out subsidies. I'm not in favour of any EV subsidies, so if Tesla is the first to go, screw Elon. Maybe he can reign in his golfing VP inbetween his busy work of firing and rehiring the nuclear weapons guys and ridding the US government of their taskforces to flush out foreign interference and freedom of information workers, and trying to sell off CIA blacksites- all unnecessary for a secure America, I'm sure.
edit. I also can't help notice that the administration has given it's #1 Donor (and big government contractor) free access to remake the bureacaucy as well is actively advertising on behalf of their #1 Donor. Screw off, America and your 51st State threats. I really like our limitations to campaign funding brought in by an actual conservative government that believed in constitutional limitations.
Sure, and nobody targeted communists for what they believe. They just targeted people that aligned with the communist party, regardless of what they thought on any given topic. They just targeted people that aligned with the black panther party, regardless of what they thought on any given topic. A simple case of fuck around and find out.
The comparison is not analogous. If I recall correctly, simply owning Das Kapital was grounds for arrest or there was the blacklisting of screenwriters and directors from creating films in Hollywood.
Musk was being given preferable treatment by the Canadian government (tax incentives to encourage the sale of Musk's vehicles over and above natural market of combustion engines.) The Canadian government is now removing that preferential treatment, which partially removes the government propping up EV sales. He is still free to sell his cars in Canada at this point (if anyone in Canada is even interested in Tesla anymore*), but just at the non-distorted market equilibrium. This is a far cry from anything done during the Red Scare.
*The Venn diagram I suspect is small. There is a Trump cult following in Canada, however small that believes Trump is a super genius, believes we deserve tariffs/ annexation, believes the fentanyl lie, and believes nearly every alternative media (Russian) talking point on the Ukraine war... but that group tends to drive the biggest gas guzzling trucks you've ever seen, so I don't really know what the Tesla market is up here anymore.
Yeah removal of a government-funded privilege isn’t particularly analogous to that kind of state-lead oppression of political belief.
On March 20 2025 17:09 Falling wrote: The wrong think/Hoover angle is all wrong.
Your administration initiated a trade war intended to ruin our economy and the only consistently clear and coherent remedy we have been offered is to accept annexation as the 51st State. You best believe we're going to go after all Trump's allies regardless of what they think on any given topic.
The government isn't obliged to give out subsidies. I'm not in favour of any EV subsidies, so if Tesla is the first to go, screw Elon. Maybe he can reign in his golfing VP inbetween his busy work of firing and rehiring the nuclear weapons guys and ridding the US government of their taskforces to flush out foreign interference and freedom of information workers, and trying to sell off CIA blacksites- all unnecessary for a secure America, I'm sure.
edit. I also can't help notice that the administration has given it's #1 Donor (and big government contractor) free access to remake the bureacaucy as well is actively advertising on behalf of their #1 Donor. Screw off, America and your 51st State threats. I really like our limitations to campaign funding brought in by an actual conservative government that believed in constitutional limitations.
Sure, and nobody targeted communists for what they believe. They just targeted people that aligned with the communist party, regardless of what they thought on any given topic. They just targeted people that aligned with the black panther party, regardless of what they thought on any given topic. A simple case of fuck around and find out.
The comparison is not analogous. If I recall correctly, simply owning Das Kapital was grounds for arrest or there was the blacklisting of screenwriters and directors from creating films in Hollywood.
Musk was being given preferable treatment by the Canadian government (tax incentives to encourage the sale of Musk's vehicles over and above natural market of combustion engines.) The Canadian government is now removing that preferential treatment, which partially removes the government propping up EV sales. He is still free to sell his cars in Canada at this point (if anyone in Canada is even interested in Tesla anymore*), but just at the non-distorted market equilibrium. This is a far cry from anything done during the Red Scare.
*The Venn diagram I suspect is small. There is a Trump cult following in Canada, however small that believes Trump is a super genius, believes we deserve tariffs/ annexation, believes the fentanyl lie, and believes nearly every alternative media (Russian) talking point on the Ukraine war... but that group tends to drive the biggest gas guzzling trucks you've ever seen, so I don't really know what the Tesla market is up here anymore.
for the first time ever the USA has more youth hockey participants than Canada. A declining % of Canada's middle class can afford to put their kids into hockey.
Or maybe the Bettman has finally successfully cracked into the American markets like he has always dreamed? 340 million population vs 40 million, and the NHL has been aggressively trying to capture American interest and market, preferring States with no snow and ice over Hamilton and Quebec City. Could more American youth in hockey for the first time just be a success story for widening interest in America?
As a rural Albertan who travels into Saskatchewan for work and farm shows I can confirm that the number of EV's with Fringe minority or Fuck Trudeau bumper stickers is damn near zero.
His tariffs are also really bad for the Ag and Oil industries so the non cultests that liked Trump have mostly jumped off the bandwagon.
Musk was being given preferable treatment by the Canadian government (tax incentives to encourage the sale of Musk's vehicles over and above natural market of combustion engines.) The Canadian government is now removing that preferential treatment, which partially removes the government propping up EV sales. He is still free to sell his cars in Canada at this point (if anyone in Canada is even interested in Tesla anymore*), but just at the non-distorted market equilibrium. This is a far cry from anything done during the Red Scare.
What a bizarre mental rewrite of the reality. Musk was not given a preferable treatment by the Canadian government. EVs were given a preferable treatment which benefited Musk's company, as it benefited Rivian, Polestar, and other companies that make EVs. They still wish to have the subsidies for EVs, just not for Teslas. Chrystia Freeland is also threatening a 100% tariff on just Teslas, not on other EVs. So you think distorting the market with tariffs on Teslas and subsidies on other EVs to make them comparatively cheaper is not punitive against Tesla but somehow just the removal of a preferential treatment?
This is what happens when the guy with the largest conflict of interest possible is in charge and believes he can do whatever he wants without consequences. And in someway perhaps he can, as I doubt he's truely worried about his financial standing regardless of how the stock of his various stocks plunge. But the Canadian government isn't beholden to him and can put measures in place as it sees fit.
Musk was being given preferable treatment by the Canadian government (tax incentives to encourage the sale of Musk's vehicles over and above natural market of combustion engines.) The Canadian government is now removing that preferential treatment, which partially removes the government propping up EV sales. He is still free to sell his cars in Canada at this point (if anyone in Canada is even interested in Tesla anymore*), but just at the non-distorted market equilibrium. This is a far cry from anything done during the Red Scare.
What a bizarre mental rewrite of the reality. Musk was not given a preferable treatment by the Canadian government. EVs were given a preferable treatment which benefited Musk's company, as it benefited Rivian, Polestar, and other companies that make EVs. They still wish to have the subsidies for EVs, just not for Teslas. Chrystia Freeland is also threatening a 100% tariff on just Teslas, not on other EVs. So you think distorting the market with tariffs on Teslas and subsidies on other EVs to make them comparatively cheaper is not punitive against Tesla but somehow just the removal of a preferential treatment?
What other course of action would you recommend? Letting Musk do whatever the fuck he wants, as part of an administration that does whatever the fuck it wants, while still subsidising his business?
Musk injected himself into politics rather deliberately, well here’s the downside of doing that. He didn’t have to do it, he’s not being persecuted for his beliefs. If he’d just kept running his various businesses and not chosen his current path this wouldn’t even be happening.
Musk was being given preferable treatment by the Canadian government (tax incentives to encourage the sale of Musk's vehicles over and above natural market of combustion engines.) The Canadian government is now removing that preferential treatment, which partially removes the government propping up EV sales. He is still free to sell his cars in Canada at this point (if anyone in Canada is even interested in Tesla anymore*), but just at the non-distorted market equilibrium. This is a far cry from anything done during the Red Scare.
What a bizarre mental rewrite of the reality. Musk was not given a preferable treatment by the Canadian government. EVs were given a preferable treatment which benefited Musk's company, as it benefited Rivian, Polestar, and other companies that make EVs. They still wish to have the subsidies for EVs, just not for Teslas. Chrystia Freeland is also threatening a 100% tariff on just Teslas, not on other EVs. So you think distorting the market with tariffs on Teslas and subsidies on other EVs to make them comparatively cheaper is not punitive against Tesla but somehow just the removal of a preferential treatment?
What other course of action would you recommend? Letting Musk do whatever the fuck he wants, as part of an administration that does whatever the fuck it wants, while still subsidising his business?
Musk injected himself into politics rather deliberately, well here’s the downside of doing that. He didn’t have to do it, he’s not being persecuted for his beliefs. If he’d just kept running his various businesses and not chosen his current path this wouldn’t even be happening.
Come the fuck on.
Sure but if we treat people differently based on the harm they’re doing to us then who are the real Nazis. How can you say Trump is wrong to deport people for speech if you’re okay with Tesla not being subsidized.
Musk was being given preferable treatment by the Canadian government (tax incentives to encourage the sale of Musk's vehicles over and above natural market of combustion engines.) The Canadian government is now removing that preferential treatment, which partially removes the government propping up EV sales. He is still free to sell his cars in Canada at this point (if anyone in Canada is even interested in Tesla anymore*), but just at the non-distorted market equilibrium. This is a far cry from anything done during the Red Scare.
What a bizarre mental rewrite of the reality. Musk was not given a preferable treatment by the Canadian government. EVs were given a preferable treatment which benefited Musk's company, as it benefited Rivian, Polestar, and other companies that make EVs. They still wish to have the subsidies for EVs, just not for Teslas. Chrystia Freeland is also threatening a 100% tariff on just Teslas, not on other EVs. So you think distorting the market with tariffs on Teslas and subsidies on other EVs to make them comparatively cheaper is not punitive against Tesla but somehow just the removal of a preferential treatment?
What other course of action would you recommend? Letting Musk do whatever the fuck he wants, as part of an administration that does whatever the fuck it wants, while still subsidising his business?
Musk injected himself into politics rather deliberately, well here’s the downside of doing that. He didn’t have to do it, he’s not being persecuted for his beliefs. If he’d just kept running his various businesses and not chosen his current path this wouldn’t even be happening.
Come the fuck on.
Sure but if we treat people differently based on the harm they’re doing to us then who are the real Nazis. How can you say Trump is wrong to deport people for speech if you’re okay with Tesla not being subsidized.
Look be that as it may, the real problem is wokeness.
Musk was being given preferable treatment by the Canadian government (tax incentives to encourage the sale of Musk's vehicles over and above natural market of combustion engines.) The Canadian government is now removing that preferential treatment, which partially removes the government propping up EV sales. He is still free to sell his cars in Canada at this point (if anyone in Canada is even interested in Tesla anymore*), but just at the non-distorted market equilibrium. This is a far cry from anything done during the Red Scare.
What a bizarre mental rewrite of the reality. Musk was not given a preferable treatment by the Canadian government. EVs were given a preferable treatment which benefited Musk's company, as it benefited Rivian, Polestar, and other companies that make EVs. They still wish to have the subsidies for EVs, just not for Teslas. Chrystia Freeland is also threatening a 100% tariff on just Teslas, not on other EVs. So you think distorting the market with tariffs on Teslas and subsidies on other EVs to make them comparatively cheaper is not punitive against Tesla but somehow just the removal of a preferential treatment?
What other course of action would you recommend? Letting Musk do whatever the fuck he wants, as part of an administration that does whatever the fuck it wants, while still subsidising his business?
Musk injected himself into politics rather deliberately, well here’s the downside of doing that. He didn’t have to do it, he’s not being persecuted for his beliefs. If he’d just kept running his various businesses and not chosen his current path this wouldn’t even be happening.
Come the fuck on.
I'm pretty sure that's the exact same thing the California bullshit environmental board said when they tried to deny SpaceX's launches from the California coast. I have the quote here...
“We’re dealing with a company [whose leader] has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race, and made it clear what his point of view is,” Commissioner chair Carly Hart said.
He's injected himself into politics and there are consequences. If he'd just kept his head down and ran his businesses this wouldn't be happening. We seem to agree there at least.
Musk was being given preferable treatment by the Canadian government (tax incentives to encourage the sale of Musk's vehicles over and above natural market of combustion engines.) The Canadian government is now removing that preferential treatment, which partially removes the government propping up EV sales. He is still free to sell his cars in Canada at this point (if anyone in Canada is even interested in Tesla anymore*), but just at the non-distorted market equilibrium. This is a far cry from anything done during the Red Scare.
What a bizarre mental rewrite of the reality. Musk was not given a preferable treatment by the Canadian government. EVs were given a preferable treatment which benefited Musk's company, as it benefited Rivian, Polestar, and other companies that make EVs. They still wish to have the subsidies for EVs, just not for Teslas. Chrystia Freeland is also threatening a 100% tariff on just Teslas, not on other EVs. So you think distorting the market with tariffs on Teslas and subsidies on other EVs to make them comparatively cheaper is not punitive against Tesla but somehow just the removal of a preferential treatment?
Oh, it's definitely targeted against Trump ally Elon Musk. I said exactly that in my first post. It's the same reason we've tried to target our tariffs towards MAGA State allies of Trump in the hopes that it might compel them to pressure Trump to end this mad trade war.
But you were framing in terms of punishment for wrongthink and McCarthy and that simply is not what is happening. Yes, Telsa along with all the other EVs (except China because we were good allies of the US) got preferential treatment. Now in an effort to get Trump to stand down, a Trump ally has his preferential treatment removed. These are categorically not the same things as Red Scare persecution... even if we did slap on a 100% tariff. Which, if Trump slaps on another tariff, why the hell not?
Trump is threatening all kinds of wild tariffs and his only consistent remedy is annexation. That ain't going to happen no way, no how, so we twist the arm of those close to Trump and maybe they twist the ear of Trump. At this point, Carney's right. There's no rush to talk with Trump as his words are worthless. We'll have to wage this trade war for awhile and see if a tariff policy inspired by mercantilism makes sense in the modern day.
There's no negotiating when Trump when he's in full tariff tantrum mode, so as Iran says, "Do whatever the hell you want." (He'll do it anyways, so why waste our breath.)
edit. Though the double Sieg Heil and the double down afterward, I'm sure didn't exactly help his case for any Canadian or provincial government wanting to keep his preferential treatment. I know Trudeau accidentally honoured an ex-Nazi, but generally we aren't fond of Upcounty degens of the tiki torch variety.
Musk was being given preferable treatment by the Canadian government (tax incentives to encourage the sale of Musk's vehicles over and above natural market of combustion engines.) The Canadian government is now removing that preferential treatment, which partially removes the government propping up EV sales. He is still free to sell his cars in Canada at this point (if anyone in Canada is even interested in Tesla anymore*), but just at the non-distorted market equilibrium. This is a far cry from anything done during the Red Scare.
What a bizarre mental rewrite of the reality. Musk was not given a preferable treatment by the Canadian government. EVs were given a preferable treatment which benefited Musk's company, as it benefited Rivian, Polestar, and other companies that make EVs. They still wish to have the subsidies for EVs, just not for Teslas. Chrystia Freeland is also threatening a 100% tariff on just Teslas, not on other EVs. So you think distorting the market with tariffs on Teslas and subsidies on other EVs to make them comparatively cheaper is not punitive against Tesla but somehow just the removal of a preferential treatment?
What other course of action would you recommend? Letting Musk do whatever the fuck he wants, as part of an administration that does whatever the fuck it wants, while still subsidising his business?
Musk injected himself into politics rather deliberately, well here’s the downside of doing that. He didn’t have to do it, he’s not being persecuted for his beliefs. If he’d just kept running his various businesses and not chosen his current path this wouldn’t even be happening.
Come the fuck on.
I'm pretty sure that's the exact same thing the California bullshit environmental board said when they tried to deny SpaceX's launches from the California coast. I have the quote here...
“We’re dealing with a company [whose leader] has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race, and made it clear what his point of view is,” Commissioner chair Carly Hart said.
He's injected himself into politics and there are consequences. If he'd just kept his head down and ran his businesses this wouldn't be happening. We seem to agree there at least.
As I said, what should be the consequence in this instance then? Is there some line where it isn’t some unfair punishment for ‘wrongthink’ and it becomes a reasonable response based on behaviour?
It’s also possible that one may think the Space X denial attempts was perhaps a stretch, but Canadians doing their thing is not.
He’s a prominent member of a US administration that is behaving politically antagonistically to Canada at large. He’s in there, he has the President’s ear to some degree. It’s a different kettle of fish if he’s an outsider there just voicing his opinions.
As Falling points out, Chinese EV companies aren’t getting preferential subsidies, also for political reasons.
For me there’s definitely a reasonable sweet spot between letting billionaires do absolutely whatever they want with no consequence, and not allowing them to have any kind of unpalatable political positions.
Canada's 23874897 year old retailer is going down hard. 9,000+ jobs are about to disappear. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/hudsons-bay-jobs-store-closures-1.7489551 It is time to strip the meat off of The Bay's carcass. My wife and I are avid bargain hunters. We're not sure if we're going to stash our haul at my grandma's place or sneak it over the border.
I recall in 2015 stating Justin Trudeau was a guy of above average intelligence... but not a super genius like Canada's previous PMs. I think I somewhat over-estimated JT. Now that the fruits of his labour are pouring in ... Justin Trudeau failed badly. Canada is getting stomped.
for the first time ever the USA has more youth hockey participants than Canada. A declining % of Canada's middle class can afford to put their kids into hockey.
Or maybe the Bettman has finally successfully cracked into the American markets like he has always dreamed? 340 million population vs 40 million, and the NHL has been aggressively trying to capture American interest and market, preferring States with no snow and ice over Hamilton and Quebec City. Could more American youth in hockey for the first time just be a success story for widening interest in America?
Canada's middle class is getting crushed. I've already posted about it several times. Check out everyone's famous communist Steve Paikin on his show "The Agenda" for a thorough examination of Canada's worsening economic state.
Youth hockey is a game for kids who are in families that have money to burn. Canada has fewer and fewer of those kinds of families every year.
On March 21 2025 08:12 BlackJack wrote:Chrystia Freeland is also threatening a 100% tariff on just Teslas, not on other EVs. So you think distorting the market with tariffs on Teslas and subsidies on other EVs to make them comparatively cheaper is not punitive against Tesla but somehow just the removal of a preferential treatment?
Freeland is so dumb she is dangerous. Trudeau made her finance minister to create a female shield for himself after that Rose Knight reporter sex thing happened. Freeland has zero qualifications to be finance minister. Canada reminds me of the cover of Led Zeppelin's first album.
On March 21 2025 14:15 Falling wrote: I know Trudeau accidentally honoured an ex-Nazi, but generally we aren't fond of Upcounty degens of the tiki torch variety.
and groped a reporter//journalist... and plastered his face in brown and/or black goop so many times he could not remember the quantity. and i can keep on going on and on and on. and his dad beat up his mom several times...
So if we're going to pick apart every body movement of Musk then keep it consistent with every member of the Trudeau family and Judith Sgro.
Personally, I give Pierre Trudeau an almost 100% pass due to the great nation building he did. Clearly, the Canadian people of the time agree with me because he kept getting re-elected. So, you know, if I'll give Pierre a pass even though he beat up Maggie... I'm also cool with Musk moving his arms around.
Pierre Trudeau's ongoing feud with the media was described as a "Cold War" at the height of the actual "Cold War". Pierre Trudeau hated the media as much as Donald Trump. Damn, I wish Canada had a bad ass leader like Pierre Trudeau or Donald Trump... hell I'd even settle for Mike Harris.
On March 23 2025 09:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I'm also cool with Musk moving his arms around.
Such a weird thing to say.
You’re either trying to say that you think Nazi salutes are cool but you just couldn’t bring yourself to say that or you’re trying to say that Elon should be allowed to move his arms which is a batshit crazy thing to say in general.
On March 23 2025 09:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I'm also cool with Musk moving his arms around.
Such a weird thing to say.
You’re either trying to say that you think Nazi salutes are cool but you just couldn’t bring yourself to say that or you’re trying to say that Elon should be allowed to move his arms which is a batshit crazy thing to say in general.
You are so fucking weird.
got nuttin' to say about the Trudeau family...and you do not have a direct rebuttal. so you resort to this.
any one flapping their arms around can be viewed as doing a "nazi salute". i'm fine with Elon flapping his arms around. If a bunch of people fail the rorschach test and make some kind of crazy claim that this is proof he aligns with Hitler... that's on them.
Lieutenant Columbo does something very similar to a nazi salute in his series of TV movies when he greets people at a distance. Far closer to the nazi salute than anything Elon has ever done. I guess Peter Falk was secretly aligning himself with Hitler? LOL.
again, if we're going to take a microscope to Elon... let's also take a microscope to the Trudeau family. I think you'll find the Trudeau family is about as fucked up as Elon. meh.
Elon is behind the firing of massive #s of government workers and he is somehow surprised there is a backlash? These are people ostensibly promised a job for life. What is Elon expecting? These guys run around in "Make America Great Again" hats. Well under Reagan the # of government employees WENT UP! He cut taxes while increasing government spending. That is the "easy mode" way of gaining popularity. These guys really think all the government employees they fire along with the government employees now in fear of losing their jobs even if they never do.... will somehow like them? The backlash is going to get more severe as DOGE lays off more government workers.
If Elon is being honest ... I am surprised by his blind spot.
This is not some freeze frame nonsense where you take a still image of someone mid-wave and claim they gave a salute. That was an aggressively deliberate salute. Twice.
You can flap your hands all you want and you will look like a bird. You will not look like you are giving a Sieg Hiel. Nor will you defend it by saying, "Bet you did nazi that coming." Which other defence do you want to run?
Autism? Know a lot Sieg Heiling autistic folk? Heart goes out to you?
Or is it exactly like this (minus the vocalization): Red Shirt Salute (One of them even has a hand on his heart, aw.)
Or take the cowards way like Charlie Kirk who claims to imitate Elon Musk by adding 'my heart goes out to you'... but he even can not bring himself to actually imitate Elon's salute because he knows it's a Sieg Hiel and he's too cowardly to bite the bullet.
Anyways maybe Tesla should be banned anyways. Smells like some serious fraud.
8600 Tesla purchases in one week in four locations in Canada. Something 1200 Teslas sold per day. 43 million in government rebates. Smells fishy to me.
On March 23 2025 12:31 Falling wrote: This is not some freeze frame nonsense where you take a still image of someone mid-wave and claim they gave a salute. That was an aggressively deliberate salute. Twice.
Peter Falk did it on his Columbo show. meh. Justin Trudeau painted his face black and brown. Does this mean Justin hates East Indians, Guyanese, Trinidadians, Pakistanis, etc etc. nah I doubt it. In fact, Trudeau's popularity remained the same before and after this big reveal.
If there were polling on Elon as detailed as was on Trudeau at the time of the big reveal... I think you'll find no one cares about it. What they care about is government workers losing their jobs and 80%+ of government workers IN FEAR of losing their jobs. That is what is wrecking Elon's "popularity". Not some random arm motions from a guy whose every move is filmed.
If you're going to go on and on forever and ever about Elon and take a microscope to his every action and how it harms Canadians... then i suggest you take a closer look at Pierre and Justin.
Are you telling me, you think that salute is Elon randomly moving his arms?
Like in all your random arm movements throughout the day, if we recorded you, do you think we would record you randomly making a motion twice in a row to a group of people that takes the form of a Sieg Heil? Random arm motions, really?
I have no interest in defending Justin Trudeau. Never voted for his party while he was in charge. Never would've had he stayed.
edit. Also, I'm not harping on this because I think it's the worst thing Elon has done, nor that I think it's the most damning. I harp on it because people like you deny the sky is blue or that poison is bad because Elon said otherwise. If we can just agree that poison is poison and that it's bad to consume, we can all move on.
IMO, Elon Musk has engaged in a great many large scale scams. If this stuff happening in Canada turns out to be some kind of fraud it prolly doesn't hit Elon's Top 100 Scams of his career.
On March 23 2025 12:38 Falling wrote: Are you telling me, you think that salute is Elon randomly moving his arms?
His arm motions do not provide evidence he aligns with Adolf Hitler. Similarly, Justin constantly painting his face brown is NOT proof he hates people from India. Judith Sgro stated it was because he loved people from India and he was making fun of himself and his inability to obtain a decent tan.
And again, Justin's %s remained unchanged throughout that whole scandal. No voting Canadians cared and Canadians thought the crazy US media and twitter were unhinged weirdos trying to make outrageous claims for clicks and views.
There is almost ZERO probability Justin hates people from India. The brown face paint is evidence of nothing.
His arm motions do not provide evidence he aligns with Adolf Hitler.
Not responsive to the question.
I did not ask if Elon aligned with Hitler. Nor did I state that he did. Is it a Seig Heil? Or is it random flapping of the arms that just about anybody would do if we kept a camera on them for long enough?
We can guess as to his motivations afterwards but we cannot even establish as simple factual question as to what are eyes physically saw much less speculate as to their meaning.
But you'd rather deflect to Justin who I think is a twit but likely not a racist one.
His arm motions do not provide evidence he aligns with Adolf Hitler.
Not responsive to the question.
I did not ask if Elon aligned with Hitler. Nor did I state that he did. Is it a Seig Heil? Or is it random flapping of the arms that just about anybody would do if we kept a camera on them for long enough?
We can guess as to his motivations afterwards but we cannot even establish as simple factual question as to what are eyes physically saw much less speculate as to their meaning.
But you'd rather deflect to Justin who I think is a twit but likely not a racist one.
Prince Harry once famously wore a Nazi uniform as part of a fancy dress party and got criticised tons. Ironically by much of the same press that would subsequently launch a tabloid hate campaign against his wife, which many believe is at least partly due to her not being some 100% ‘English rose’ stereotype.
For me such a thing, or going blackface in your youth are 100% questionable calls, yeah pretty insensitive. But really the kind of thing you can apologise for, not do again and it’s no big deal if the rest of your behaviour isn’t atrocious.
One thing I don’t recall much of were defences like ‘it wasn’t a Nazi uniform’, or ‘it wasn’t actually blackface’.
It’s so fucking weird man. Ah well, such is the current lay of the land, I suppose we’re just going to have to get used to it at this rate
And just one more thing… I don’t recall Colombo going around Seig Heiling. Sorry, couldn’t resist.
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