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MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
February 03 2017 18:50 GMT
#13061
On February 04 2017 01:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
We must place a travel ban on all Counterstrike players from entering France. GET SMART FRANCE.

Btw SoSexy, whatever happened to your promise to never post again if it turned out the Munich shooter wasn't a muslim terrorist. Yet here you are again.

That said, this does bear the hallmarks of both a terrorist attack and that of a mentally disturbed person.

Meanwhile in UK, a Royal Marine commando is being charged with terrorism offence, hiding a massive stash of weapons and ammunition, including claymore mines and mortars.


Yeah... Undercover IRA, he had some sort of plan à la Law Abiding Citizen; random caches of explosives and uniform disguises, etc o_o.
That's a conflict that seemingly is ripe to kick off... again. Between the recent scandal in the NI parliament and the disrespect of their majority vote to remain, etc. I know most Ulster areas, out of sheer definiton, voted to leave/for the union but apparently their parliament is slowing swinging towards a Catholic majority.
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2640 Posts
February 03 2017 20:51 GMT
#13062
On February 04 2017 02:09 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2017 02:04 Sent. wrote:
Isn't it just an empty declaration? What stops those future governments from repealing this law?


The same thing that stopped Trump from cancelling the Australia refugee deal?

Sure, given enough political will everything can be overturned. They could also change their entire constitution and declare a frog the holy emperor of Sweden.and what else.

But putting up such laws sets the bar way higher to overturn them and most governments try to respect their predecessors.
If every government would immediately overturn everything that was done before them, modern democracies would not work.

Also it was really more about the picture than about the law, as I said. I found it highly amusing.


No it only works with foreign deals. In order to deal with other countries they need to feel that you are reliable. In internal politics these things are just PR stunts.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 04 2017 18:36 GMT
#13063
Germany’s president has said his country has overcome its postwar reluctance to participate in world affairs and is prepared to assume a more active role politically and militarily in the wake of the Brexit referendum and the election of Donald Trump.

Joachim Gauck said many Germans were increasingly accepting of their country’s responsibility to assert itself internationally, despite their awareness of the suspicions some still hold regarding any form of German dominance.

“We can be proud that this Germany is different from the other Germanies of history, that we live in lasting peace alongside our neighbours, and are a reliable partner within the EU and Nato; that our country is robustly at peace with itself and enjoys a welfare state which stops people falling into destitution,” he said.

“Notwithstanding that some Germans still find it difficult to stomach the idea of Germany assuming greater responsibility internationally … I think it’s right we should shoulder that responsibility. A country which trusts itself is a more reliable partner for everyone.”

Gauck, 77, was speaking to the Guardian and four other major European newspapers, shortly before retiring this month from Germany’s highest office.

He said the postwar stance of many Germans, so haunted by their militaristic past that for decades some utterly rejected the idea of the country even having its own army, had gradually given way to a more pragmatic approach.

“Even increasing the defence budget is no longer met with resistance from the majority of the population,” he said. “For a while some Germans were almost ashamed of having an army at all.”

But, he explained, the more Germans accepted “that their homeland has become a reliable country that boosts legal certainty, sound institutions and a stable democratic citizenry, the readier they will be to bring those achievements to bear and assume more responsibility on the international stage”.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-04 19:00:28
February 04 2017 18:46 GMT
#13064
PM just announced that they'll repeal the infamous corruption decree tomorrow. Can't find an English article about it yet as it was just a few minutes ago.

E:

Romania's Prime Minister Sorin Grindeanu announced on Saturday that the government plans to withdraw the corruption decree that sparked the country's biggest protests since the fall of dictator Nicolae Ceausescu in 1989.

"Tomorrow we will hold a government meeting to repeal this decree," Grindeanu told a news conference. "I do not want to divide Romania. It can't be divided in two."

The decree will be repealed during Sunday's Cabinet meeting.

The move was not completely unexpected as the leader of Grindeanu's Social Democrats (PSD) said earlier on Saturday that the government might withdraw the decree.

Thousands of people had taken to the streets of Romania on Saturday for the fifth day in a row in protest of a decree that decriminalized official misconduct.

Calin Tariceanu, head of ALDE party - a junior partner of the ruling Social Democrats coalition said Saturday on private TV station Romania TV that the move came because "we have nothing to hide."

The decree called for decriminalizing abuse-of-power offenses for sums below 200,000 lei ($48,000; 44,200 euros). It also narrowed the definition of conflict of interest, making it legal for a public official to favor a business partner when deciding who should win a contract.


http://www.dw.com/en/romanian-government-repeals-decree-decriminalizing-official-misconduct/a-37415443
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 04 2017 18:53 GMT
#13065
On February 05 2017 03:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Germany’s president has said his country has overcome its postwar reluctance to participate in world affairs and is prepared to assume a more active role politically and militarily in the wake of the Brexit referendum and the election of Donald Trump.

Joachim Gauck said many Germans were increasingly accepting of their country’s responsibility to assert itself internationally, despite their awareness of the suspicions some still hold regarding any form of German dominance.

“We can be proud that this Germany is different from the other Germanies of history, that we live in lasting peace alongside our neighbours, and are a reliable partner within the EU and Nato; that our country is robustly at peace with itself and enjoys a welfare state which stops people falling into destitution,” he said.

“Notwithstanding that some Germans still find it difficult to stomach the idea of Germany assuming greater responsibility internationally … I think it’s right we should shoulder that responsibility. A country which trusts itself is a more reliable partner for everyone.”

Gauck, 77, was speaking to the Guardian and four other major European newspapers, shortly before retiring this month from Germany’s highest office.

He said the postwar stance of many Germans, so haunted by their militaristic past that for decades some utterly rejected the idea of the country even having its own army, had gradually given way to a more pragmatic approach.

“Even increasing the defence budget is no longer met with resistance from the majority of the population,” he said. “For a while some Germans were almost ashamed of having an army at all.”

But, he explained, the more Germans accepted “that their homeland has become a reliable country that boosts legal certainty, sound institutions and a stable democratic citizenry, the readier they will be to bring those achievements to bear and assume more responsibility on the international stage”.


Source

About damn time Germany puts aside its absurd reluctance to be a world power.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
February 04 2017 18:59 GMT
#13066
I would agree that a purely historical reason is pretty absurd, but I don't really feel that this is the most important reason. I think most people are uneasy about the European relations that will come out of Germany asserting itself or even taking over the role of the 'leader of the free world'. We're still sitting in the middle of central Europe and the idea wasn't to ignore everybody else and some countries around us are pretty opposed to German leadership.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 04 2017 19:18 GMT
#13067
Weaker countries should get used to the realities that come with having stronger neighbors on their borders, simple as that.

Hell, Germany should develop its own nuclear strike capabilities. Wouldn't be the best for the rest of us but an independent nuclear arsenal is an important guarantor of sovereignty.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-04 19:26:11
February 04 2017 19:25 GMT
#13068
That's exactly the kind of strongarm politics that nobody outside or inside of Germany wants. Assertiveness in foreign policy is okay if the situation dictates it and there is good reason to take the leading role, but in no way should we act like it just because we want to. This is the childish shit that dictatorships do.

And I'm pretty sure the public support for nuclear weapons is in the negatives. We don't need them anyway with the UK and France being nuclear powers.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 04 2017 19:30 GMT
#13069
It should be remembered that this was in no way a policy statement.
The impact on the German course by this statement is not much higher than if anyone else would have shared this observation about the general German attitude here in the TL forums. (and he is actually correct about the attitude shift)

Also the interview was not really pushed into German media, so it won't really affect (e.g. reinforce) the German populations attitude

But it also could be said, that especially with the presidents after Rau (who was seriously only seen on funerals and prize givings...) again the position of the president has been increasingly used to "feel for reactions" and speak out things which the government did not dare to speak for diplomatic reasons.
So this might be used similarly here. Test out how the reaction is amongst the European allies, and if it is positive, then let the government follow, and if it is negative say that the president is just doing his own stuff, has nothing to say in this country anyway and this was purely his personal opinion.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 04 2017 19:36 GMT
#13070
On February 05 2017 04:25 Nyxisto wrote:
That's exactly the kind of strongarm politics that nobody outside or inside of Germany wants. Assertiveness in foreign policy is okay if the situation dictates it and there is good reason to take the leading role, but in no way should we act like it just because we want to. This is the childish shit that dictatorships do.

And I'm pretty sure the public support for nuclear weapons is in the negatives. We don't need them anyway with the UK and France being nuclear powers.

It is not lost on me that Germany has an odd stunted attitude towards any form of assertiveness as an independent party, probably for historical reasons more than anything else (as Germany 100+ years ago wasn't like this). I don't expect that to change for at least another generation. But if it does, my thoughts would be "good on you, Germany" whether or not I would actually support the action as a non-German.

I agree that it's probably just empty words, but if it's a first step towards a more active involvement then that would be a good thing.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
February 04 2017 21:45 GMT
#13071
And what would this "more active involvement" will be direct towards?
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
February 04 2017 23:27 GMT
#13072
On February 05 2017 04:18 LegalLord wrote:
Weaker countries should get used to the realities that come with having stronger neighbors on their borders, simple as that.

Hell, Germany should develop its own nuclear strike capabilities. Wouldn't be the best for the rest of us but an independent nuclear arsenal is an important guarantor of sovereignty.


Can we say the same thing for Iran or any other non-allied country?

Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
February 05 2017 00:41 GMT
#13073
On February 05 2017 04:36 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2017 04:25 Nyxisto wrote:
That's exactly the kind of strongarm politics that nobody outside or inside of Germany wants. Assertiveness in foreign policy is okay if the situation dictates it and there is good reason to take the leading role, but in no way should we act like it just because we want to. This is the childish shit that dictatorships do.

And I'm pretty sure the public support for nuclear weapons is in the negatives. We don't need them anyway with the UK and France being nuclear powers.

It is not lost on me that Germany has an odd stunted attitude towards any form of assertiveness as an independent party, probably for historical reasons more than anything else (as Germany 100+ years ago wasn't like this). I don't expect that to change for at least another generation. But if it does, my thoughts would be "good on you, Germany" whether or not I would actually support the action as a non-German.

I agree that it's probably just empty words, but if it's a first step towards a more active involvement then that would be a good thing.


Sounds expensive, with very dubious gains to general welfare, if any.
Bora Pain minha porra!
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1355 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-05 00:57:38
February 05 2017 00:55 GMT
#13074
On February 05 2017 03:59 Nyxisto wrote:
I would agree that a purely historical reason is pretty absurd, but I don't really feel that this is the most important reason. I think most people are uneasy about the European relations that will come out of Germany asserting itself or even taking over the role of the 'leader of the free world'. We're still sitting in the middle of central Europe and the idea wasn't to ignore everybody else and some countries around us are pretty opposed to German leadership.



Being from the Netherlands i would love to see a stronger and more assertive Germany and I think states like Poland,hungary,austria,tjech would not mind either. The 2nd world war is 70+ years ago and i don't think there is anyone who is truly afraid of Germany,it is a country that works. Also I can not think of any other European state that can fulfill such a role and as long as the eu remains weak a strong power is needed I think to deter other countries from expanding their influence into europe. But tbh I am not sure that Germany would want such a role for various reasons. Amongst others the high monetary costs of building a strong army and do more international missions.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 05 2017 01:00 GMT
#13075
On February 05 2017 09:41 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2017 04:36 LegalLord wrote:
On February 05 2017 04:25 Nyxisto wrote:
That's exactly the kind of strongarm politics that nobody outside or inside of Germany wants. Assertiveness in foreign policy is okay if the situation dictates it and there is good reason to take the leading role, but in no way should we act like it just because we want to. This is the childish shit that dictatorships do.

And I'm pretty sure the public support for nuclear weapons is in the negatives. We don't need them anyway with the UK and France being nuclear powers.

It is not lost on me that Germany has an odd stunted attitude towards any form of assertiveness as an independent party, probably for historical reasons more than anything else (as Germany 100+ years ago wasn't like this). I don't expect that to change for at least another generation. But if it does, my thoughts would be "good on you, Germany" whether or not I would actually support the action as a non-German.

I agree that it's probably just empty words, but if it's a first step towards a more active involvement then that would be a good thing.


Sounds expensive, with very dubious gains to general welfare, if any.

A percentage of GDP, nothing more. After all, your comment could apply just as well to taking refugees and they did that.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-05 01:38:46
February 05 2017 01:37 GMT
#13076
On February 05 2017 10:00 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2017 09:41 Sbrubbles wrote:
On February 05 2017 04:36 LegalLord wrote:
On February 05 2017 04:25 Nyxisto wrote:
That's exactly the kind of strongarm politics that nobody outside or inside of Germany wants. Assertiveness in foreign policy is okay if the situation dictates it and there is good reason to take the leading role, but in no way should we act like it just because we want to. This is the childish shit that dictatorships do.

And I'm pretty sure the public support for nuclear weapons is in the negatives. We don't need them anyway with the UK and France being nuclear powers.

It is not lost on me that Germany has an odd stunted attitude towards any form of assertiveness as an independent party, probably for historical reasons more than anything else (as Germany 100+ years ago wasn't like this). I don't expect that to change for at least another generation. But if it does, my thoughts would be "good on you, Germany" whether or not I would actually support the action as a non-German.

I agree that it's probably just empty words, but if it's a first step towards a more active involvement then that would be a good thing.


Sounds expensive, with very dubious gains to general welfare, if any.

A percentage of GDP, nothing more. After all, your comment could apply just as well to taking refugees and they did that.


A percentage of GDP is quite a bit, and the argument for humanitarian efforts is a much clearer one as a gain in terms of both global welfare (refugees who are suffering gain some respite) and in terms of local welfare (Germans who feel a duty to help peacefully feel like they did so).

I don't see an active Germany with a nuclear arsenal, spending an extra percentage point or two of GDP on more guns, as necessary for either guaranteeing its own sovereignty or for international insertion of its goods and capital, therefore it's a waste of good taxpayer money and a pressure to its neighbors to do the same.
Bora Pain minha porra!
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
February 05 2017 02:17 GMT
#13077
PARIS — Not long ago, Philippe Vardon was an anti-immigrant activist best known for carrying out shock propaganda operations, like occupying mosques or serving pork-laced soup to the homeless in Nice, the southern French city that has a large Muslim population.

Today, he is a top general in the sophisticated social media campaign working to get Marine Le Pen — the leader of the far-right National Front party — elected as president of France.

The National Front has long been at the cutting edge of digital communication — it was the first party in the country to put up a website in the mid-1990s — and has invested aggressively in its social media operation. The investment is paying off as Le Pen boasts the highest social media “engagement rate” (measured by likes and follows) of any presidential candidate, while commanding legions of online volunteers in France, Europe and beyond who work each day to amplify her message.

Le Pen’s web-centric insurgent approach mimics methods used by other outsider campaigns. The Brexit campaign in the United Kingdom and the electioneering efforts of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump in the U.S. all made creative use of social media to short-circuit traditional media.

Yet in France, the National Front’s online campaign remains unique. Bigger and more professional than social media operations of rivals including former Economy Minister Emmanuel Macron, her web machine stands alone notably due to the ruthlessness of its negative campaigns, and the fact that so many “global populists” are willing to amplify them online.

If the polls are to be believed, Le Pen is likely to win the first round of the presidential elections in April, but lose in the runoff two weeks later.

Its epicenter, known as l’Escale (“The Stopover”) to insiders, lies in a tony apartment building in western Paris, a short walk away from the Place de l’Etoile (POLITICO was offered a tour before being told one would not be possible). There, amid batteries of Apple computers, some 15 permanent web staffers work in a studious atmosphere to craft, package and broadcast Le Pen’s “official” campaign content, branded “MLP2017.” This group is tied to a wider circle of volunteers who relay the message and broadcast their own unofficial content.

But at the heart of the operation are the message-makers, people like Vardon. Described by his colleagues as the party’s “king of agitprop,” Vardon is a key member of the “Ideas and Images” unit in Le Pen’s presidential campaign. Operating in tandem with the web staff, this small group of senior National Front officials provides the fuel for the party’s social media engine, carrying out research, crafting memes and coordinating the party’s effort to discredit opponents.

If the polls are to be believed, Le Pen is likely to win the first round of the presidential elections in April, but lose in the runoff two weeks later. What Vardon and his colleagues are hoping to do is translate their online advantage into enough of a boost at the ballot box to upset that prediction.

Experts, burned by shock results in the U.S. and the U.K., concede that Vardon just might have a chance. “What we observed during the Brexit campaign, and then in the U.S. presidential election, is that the winning parties also had very strong social media campaigns,” said Albéric Guigou, head of Reputation Squad, a social media consulting agency. “In France, the National Front clearly has a major advance in this area on its rivals, both in terms of popularity and their methods.”
A campaign is born

In interviews with POLITICO, members of the ideas and images unit described their offices as a “creative space” that functioned like a startup. Its members credit Vardon with dreaming up one of party’s biggest online campaigns: #LeVraiFillon (or “#TheRealFillon”) — a multi-platform effort dedicated to “unmasking” former French Prime Minister François Fillon after he won the conservative party’s primary in November.

Source

Can the French verify this?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 05 2017 04:02 GMT
#13078
On February 05 2017 10:37 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2017 10:00 LegalLord wrote:
On February 05 2017 09:41 Sbrubbles wrote:
On February 05 2017 04:36 LegalLord wrote:
On February 05 2017 04:25 Nyxisto wrote:
That's exactly the kind of strongarm politics that nobody outside or inside of Germany wants. Assertiveness in foreign policy is okay if the situation dictates it and there is good reason to take the leading role, but in no way should we act like it just because we want to. This is the childish shit that dictatorships do.

And I'm pretty sure the public support for nuclear weapons is in the negatives. We don't need them anyway with the UK and France being nuclear powers.

It is not lost on me that Germany has an odd stunted attitude towards any form of assertiveness as an independent party, probably for historical reasons more than anything else (as Germany 100+ years ago wasn't like this). I don't expect that to change for at least another generation. But if it does, my thoughts would be "good on you, Germany" whether or not I would actually support the action as a non-German.

I agree that it's probably just empty words, but if it's a first step towards a more active involvement then that would be a good thing.


Sounds expensive, with very dubious gains to general welfare, if any.

A percentage of GDP, nothing more. After all, your comment could apply just as well to taking refugees and they did that.


A percentage of GDP is quite a bit, and the argument for humanitarian efforts is a much clearer one as a gain in terms of both global welfare (refugees who are suffering gain some respite) and in terms of local welfare (Germans who feel a duty to help peacefully feel like they did so).

I don't see an active Germany with a nuclear arsenal, spending an extra percentage point or two of GDP on more guns, as necessary for either guaranteeing its own sovereignty or for international insertion of its goods and capital, therefore it's a waste of good taxpayer money and a pressure to its neighbors to do the same.

The argument for the refugee crisis is... a troubled one at best, as you can see by the fallout. And yes, 1 percent of GDP is a lot of money, but that argument was made there as well. Helping with refugee camps is much, much cheaper. Hell, Germany is even paying people to go back as of now. And a strong emphasis on military does help some rather good well-paying industries, which is definitely a plus.

A strong military, with nuclear weapons, allows you to apply force to defend your national interests. A nation which can't defend itself is by necessity subservient to some other nation that would defend said nation on its behalf. Germany doesn't have to be one of those, and as soon as it realizes that then it can take up a more realistic approach to military strength.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 05 2017 11:32 GMT
#13079
On February 05 2017 11:17 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
PARIS — Not long ago, Philippe Vardon was an anti-immigrant activist best known for carrying out shock propaganda operations, like occupying mosques or serving pork-laced soup to the homeless in Nice, the southern French city that has a large Muslim population.

Today, he is a top general in the sophisticated social media campaign working to get Marine Le Pen — the leader of the far-right National Front party — elected as president of France.

The National Front has long been at the cutting edge of digital communication — it was the first party in the country to put up a website in the mid-1990s — and has invested aggressively in its social media operation. The investment is paying off as Le Pen boasts the highest social media “engagement rate” (measured by likes and follows) of any presidential candidate, while commanding legions of online volunteers in France, Europe and beyond who work each day to amplify her message.

Le Pen’s web-centric insurgent approach mimics methods used by other outsider campaigns. The Brexit campaign in the United Kingdom and the electioneering efforts of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump in the U.S. all made creative use of social media to short-circuit traditional media.

Yet in France, the National Front’s online campaign remains unique. Bigger and more professional than social media operations of rivals including former Economy Minister Emmanuel Macron, her web machine stands alone notably due to the ruthlessness of its negative campaigns, and the fact that so many “global populists” are willing to amplify them online.

If the polls are to be believed, Le Pen is likely to win the first round of the presidential elections in April, but lose in the runoff two weeks later.

Its epicenter, known as l’Escale (“The Stopover”) to insiders, lies in a tony apartment building in western Paris, a short walk away from the Place de l’Etoile (POLITICO was offered a tour before being told one would not be possible). There, amid batteries of Apple computers, some 15 permanent web staffers work in a studious atmosphere to craft, package and broadcast Le Pen’s “official” campaign content, branded “MLP2017.” This group is tied to a wider circle of volunteers who relay the message and broadcast their own unofficial content.

But at the heart of the operation are the message-makers, people like Vardon. Described by his colleagues as the party’s “king of agitprop,” Vardon is a key member of the “Ideas and Images” unit in Le Pen’s presidential campaign. Operating in tandem with the web staff, this small group of senior National Front officials provides the fuel for the party’s social media engine, carrying out research, crafting memes and coordinating the party’s effort to discredit opponents.

If the polls are to be believed, Le Pen is likely to win the first round of the presidential elections in April, but lose in the runoff two weeks later. What Vardon and his colleagues are hoping to do is translate their online advantage into enough of a boost at the ballot box to upset that prediction.

Experts, burned by shock results in the U.S. and the U.K., concede that Vardon just might have a chance. “What we observed during the Brexit campaign, and then in the U.S. presidential election, is that the winning parties also had very strong social media campaigns,” said Albéric Guigou, head of Reputation Squad, a social media consulting agency. “In France, the National Front clearly has a major advance in this area on its rivals, both in terms of popularity and their methods.”
A campaign is born

In interviews with POLITICO, members of the ideas and images unit described their offices as a “creative space” that functioned like a startup. Its members credit Vardon with dreaming up one of party’s biggest online campaigns: #LeVraiFillon (or “#TheRealFillon”) — a multi-platform effort dedicated to “unmasking” former French Prime Minister François Fillon after he won the conservative party’s primary in November.

Source

Can the French verify this?

Verify what?
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PARIS — Not long ago, Philippe Vardon was an anti-immigrant activist best known for carrying out shock propaganda operations, like occupying mosques or serving pork-laced soup to the homeless in Nice, the southern French city that has a large Muslim population.

Today, he is a top general in the sophisticated social media campaign working to get Marine Le Pen — the leader of the far-right National Front party — elected as president of France.

The National Front has long been at the cutting edge of digital communication — it was the first party in the country to put up a website in the mid-1990s — and has invested aggressively in its social media operation. The investment is paying off as Le Pen boasts the highest social media “engagement rate” (measured by likes and follows) of any presidential candidate, while commanding legions of online volunteers in France, Europe and beyond who work each day to amplify her message.

Le Pen’s web-centric insurgent approach mimics methods used by other outsider campaigns. The Brexit campaign in the United Kingdom and the electioneering efforts of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump in the U.S. all made creative use of social media to short-circuit traditional media.

Yet in France, the National Front’s online campaign remains unique. Bigger and more professional than social media operations of rivals including former Economy Minister Emmanuel Macron, her web machine stands alone notably due to the ruthlessness of its negative campaigns, and the fact that so many “global populists” are willing to amplify them online.

If the polls are to be believed, Le Pen is likely to win the first round of the presidential elections in April, but lose in the runoff two weeks later.

Its epicenter, known as l’Escale (“The Stopover”) to insiders, lies in a tony apartment building in western Paris, a short walk away from the Place de l’Etoile (POLITICO was offered a tour before being told one would not be possible). There, amid batteries of Apple computers, some 15 permanent web staffers work in a studious atmosphere to craft, package and broadcast Le Pen’s “official” campaign content, branded “MLP2017.” This group is tied to a wider circle of volunteers who relay the message and broadcast their own unofficial content.

But at the heart of the operation are the message-makers, people like Vardon. Described by his colleagues as the party’s “king of agitprop,” Vardon is a key member of the “Ideas and Images” unit in Le Pen’s presidential campaign. Operating in tandem with the web staff, this small group of senior National Front officials provides the fuel for the party’s social media engine, carrying out research, crafting memes and coordinating the party’s effort to discredit opponents.

If the polls are to be believed, Le Pen is likely to win the first round of the presidential elections in April, but lose in the runoff two weeks later. What Vardon and his colleagues are hoping to do is translate their online advantage into enough of a boost at the ballot box to upset that prediction.

Experts, burned by shock results in the U.S. and the U.K., concede that Vardon just might have a chance. “What we observed during the Brexit campaign, and then in the U.S. presidential election, is that the winning parties also had very strong social media campaigns,” said Albéric Guigou, head of Reputation Squad, a social media consulting agency. “In France, the National Front clearly has a major advance in this area on its rivals, both in terms of popularity and their methods.”
A campaign is born

In interviews with POLITICO, members of the ideas and images unit described their offices as a “creative space” that functioned like a startup. Its members credit Vardon with dreaming up one of party’s biggest online campaigns: #LeVraiFillon (or “#TheRealFillon”) — a multi-platform effort dedicated to “unmasking” former French Prime Minister François Fillon after he won the conservative party’s primary in November.

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Can the French verify this?

Verify what?

Terribly sorry, I was not very cohesive that evening. I was hoping you could confirm the general gist of the article about the French media landscape being fairly far-right in France. The election is still quite a bit off and with Fillon apparently in dire straits, I am worried about the level of success Front Nationale's tactics might have. The article also linked to a buzzfeed original which talked about Trump-linked memers trying to influence French discussion. Has the French media given that any attention?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
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