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On February 14 2018 22:58 Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2018 07:51 Plansix wrote:On February 14 2018 07:40 sc-darkness wrote:
Who cares if it's not in the EU? It's part of Europe. Today it might be Ukraine, tomorrow it could be another country.
I agree, I just wanted to clear up that it is not an EU member. I also agree that Putin is looking to see what country he can push into as some sort of protective action to protect the country from itself. This will be after they screw with that nation’s elections or something along those lines. And when there are articles like this: http://time.com/4390090/istanbul-attack-russian-isis-militants/You can’t help but wonder where these new Russian speaking ISIS members will attack next. But I bet it isn’t Russia. Why don't u wanna clarify that u don't give a shit about Ukraine at all sitting on the other side of the ocean? And I don't mind since it's reasonable at least from such perspective. And yes, my country is weak by lot's of means, but younger generation does not want to fall in a state of USSR once again. So I guess it would be more beneficial in long terms not to ignore complex problems here, which again my country unable to solve by itself due to our harsh past and history as well as not the best economical situation.
What ever do you mean? Americans clearly care a great deal about Ukraine. They were meddling in both sides of Euromaidan - with people like Manafort supporting Yanukovych and the US government supporting the pro-Euromaidan side. They love your country so much, they support everyone, can't you feel the warmth of their presence?
On February 14 2018 07:51 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2018 07:40 sc-darkness wrote:
Who cares if it's not in the EU? It's part of Europe. Today it might be Ukraine, tomorrow it could be another country.
You can’t help but wonder where these new Russian speaking ISIS members will attack next. But I bet it isn’t Russia.
You're a piece of work. Perhaps you can tell me: at which point does that kind of talk count as "country bashing"?
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On February 15 2018 00:00 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2018 22:58 Dav1oN wrote:On February 14 2018 07:51 Plansix wrote:On February 14 2018 07:40 sc-darkness wrote:
Who cares if it's not in the EU? It's part of Europe. Today it might be Ukraine, tomorrow it could be another country.
I agree, I just wanted to clear up that it is not an EU member. I also agree that Putin is looking to see what country he can push into as some sort of protective action to protect the country from itself. This will be after they screw with that nation’s elections or something along those lines. And when there are articles like this: http://time.com/4390090/istanbul-attack-russian-isis-militants/You can’t help but wonder where these new Russian speaking ISIS members will attack next. But I bet it isn’t Russia. Why don't u wanna clarify that u don't give a shit about Ukraine at all sitting on the other side of the ocean? And I don't mind since it's reasonable at least from such perspective. And yes, my country is weak by lot's of means, but younger generation does not want to fall in a state of USSR once again. So I guess it would be more beneficial in long terms not to ignore complex problems here, which again my country unable to solve by itself due to our harsh past and history as well as not the best economical situation. I give a shit about you and your country that same way I give a shit about every other country in the EU. I am not foolish enough to believe Putin and his goons would stop with your country. Or that it would not impact me in the US. I just need to look to the war in Syria and how it impacted US politics to see that none of us will be able to ignore what happens. Show nested quote +On February 14 2018 23:50 Velr wrote:On February 14 2018 07:51 Plansix wrote:On February 14 2018 07:40 sc-darkness wrote:
Who cares if it's not in the EU? It's part of Europe. Today it might be Ukraine, tomorrow it could be another country.
You can’t help but wonder where these new Russian speaking ISIS members will attack next. But I bet it isn’t Russia. Why wouldn't it be Russia? Russia has had its fair share of Islamic terrorism. I will freely admit I could be wrong, but it seems easier for Russia and Putin to push these groups to attack anyone else but Russia. They know they can’t really eliminate terrorists, so try to motivate them to attack anyone else but Russia. I don’t believe they would have a 100% success rate, but they don’t really need that. It is a very cold war style tactic that I expect them to go back to. But again, I could be completely wrong and I will freely admit that.
They're going to motivate those groups to attack anyone else but Russia by imprisoning or killing any ISIS member (some of those guys aren't even ISIS members but "delegates" from the Caucasian equivalent of ISIS) that comes back to Russia. Putin isn't going to fund them trips to Europe, giving money or other support to Russian speaking Sunnis willing to fight for Islamic Caucasus isn't a good idea.
On February 15 2018 00:49 a_flayer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2018 07:51 Plansix wrote:On February 14 2018 07:40 sc-darkness wrote:
Who cares if it's not in the EU? It's part of Europe. Today it might be Ukraine, tomorrow it could be another country.
You can’t help but wonder where these new Russian speaking ISIS members will attack next. But I bet it isn’t Russia. You're a piece of work. Perhaps you can tell me: at which point does that kind of talk count as "country bashing"?
When you have a history of bashing said country, that country is Israel and you call it "the Jews" instead of just Israel. Hard to reach that point, but some manage 
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Wow, there were some pretty impressive hot takes in here. With all the beauty of a conspiratard "I could be wrong, but I'm just throwing that out there" hedging.
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That is not an unfair criticism of my “hot take”. It just struck me as something similar to the tactics used during the cold war.
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On February 14 2018 19:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2018 15:37 Ghostcom wrote:
He died at 23:18 local time after having been sick for most of 2018. It was fairly expected - they even moved him from the hospital to their spring/fall residence "Fredensborg slot" yesterday to ensure he could die in peace.
A precarious issue is that he recently objected to being buried in Roskilde Domkirke (which is tradition) with Queen Margrethe II as he wasn't a king by title (a 25 million DKK sarcophagus had been prepared for them). At the same time it became publicly known that he suffered from dementia. However, the question remains whether to honour his wishes (probably) and if so, where to bury him (maybe near Chateau Cayx in France). Possibly a dumb question does that mean he will receive a State funeral not in Denmark but in France?
No one really knows. My guess is that the ceremony will be held in Denmark and then the earthing may happen at a later day. He could also end up buried somewhere else in Denmark (there are a few somewhat possible options).
EDIT: he is going to be cremated and part of his ashes will be spread at sea, part of it placed near Fredensborg slot.
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@a_flayer Yeaaaa, I see your sarcastic message context, but in reality the only warmth you can feel here is from global warming
@Plansix Okay, I should admit - I was wrong about your point of view, sorry for such overreaction :/
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No problem at all. Clearly I did not communicate my point of view very well.
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French Jobs Market Turns Corner, But Skills Mismatch A Concern
PARIS - France's unemployment rate dropped below 9 percent for the first time since 2009, adding weight to efforts by President Emmanuel Macron to liberalise a rigid labour market that remains hamstrung by a skills mismatch.
The rate fell to 8.9 percent in the fourth quarter of last year from 9.6 percent in the previous three months, national statistics office INSEE said on Thursday.
Around four months after, as his first major policy initiative as president, Macron changed labour rules to gave firms increased flexibility to hire and fire staff, the French economy is creating jobs at its fastest rate since 2007, INSEE said last week.
New jobs are being created at a faster rate, and U.S. online retail giant Amazon said earlier on Thursday it would add 2,000 permanent contract positions this year.
Even though French unemployment remains higher than the euro zone average, a lack of skilled workers is creating production bottlenecks and snarling up supply chains, company executives told Reuters last week.
Macron's overhaul of the labour code has helped ease those concerns, and hiring on permanent contracts rose 6.4 percent in the fourth quarter to 48 percent, a level not seen since before the global financial crisis.
The employment rate, the percentage of people in jobs, rose to 65.7 percent, the highest level since the early 1980s, with all age groups marking an improvement.
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0.7% drop in unemployment in the last quarter is quite remarkable, thanks Mr. Macron!
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It's worse than the average EU unemploymant change of -0.8% in the last year.
https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/unemployment-rate
Austria has experienced -1.2%, which led to the new nationalist social ministry not officially presenting* the numbers in fear of shedding a positive light on the works of the former social-democratic intiated state-programs, that the new government has dismissed as one of their first actions and because the numbers are not putting an explicit focus on foreigner unemployment. It is said that the nationalists want to remodel the report in a way that fits their storylines better.
*The presentation of the numbers by the ministry is only a formal act. The office for employment publishes the numbers and the social ministry presents them. Which they didn't do this time. Given that this is a routine act of public servants the implication is, that there was an official order to hold back on the publication.
Edit: And all of that is under the assumption that government politics actually matter a lot on that topic, which I don't believe they usually do in the shortrun.
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On February 16 2018 05:21 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +French Jobs Market Turns Corner, But Skills Mismatch A Concern
PARIS - France's unemployment rate dropped below 9 percent for the first time since 2009, adding weight to efforts by President Emmanuel Macron to liberalise a rigid labour market that remains hamstrung by a skills mismatch.
The rate fell to 8.9 percent in the fourth quarter of last year from 9.6 percent in the previous three months, national statistics office INSEE said on Thursday.
Around four months after, as his first major policy initiative as president, Macron changed labour rules to gave firms increased flexibility to hire and fire staff, the French economy is creating jobs at its fastest rate since 2007, INSEE said last week.
New jobs are being created at a faster rate, and U.S. online retail giant Amazon said earlier on Thursday it would add 2,000 permanent contract positions this year.
Even though French unemployment remains higher than the euro zone average, a lack of skilled workers is creating production bottlenecks and snarling up supply chains, company executives told Reuters last week.
Macron's overhaul of the labour code has helped ease those concerns, and hiring on permanent contracts rose 6.4 percent in the fourth quarter to 48 percent, a level not seen since before the global financial crisis.
The employment rate, the percentage of people in jobs, rose to 65.7 percent, the highest level since the early 1980s, with all age groups marking an improvement. source0.7% drop in unemployment in the last quarter is quite remarkable, thanks Mr. Macron!
Hahahaha
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At best hard unemployment (cat. A) was transferred to precarity and part-time (cat. B + C). But to be fair it's not even Macron's deed, 2017 should rather be attributed to the previous government; Macron's counter-reforms had no time to kick in in the last 2017 quarter.
2018 will be Macron's though.
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My brother will have to go into negotiation in "their" french factory because they want to up the work hours from 34 to 36 hours/week (still at least 4hours less than in any other plant).
They threaten to strike.
France.. Go fuck yourself and grow up.
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On February 16 2018 08:09 Velr wrote:
My brother will have to go into negotiation in "their" french factory because they want to up the work hours from 34 to 36 hours/week (still at least 4hours less than in any other plant).
They threaten to strike.
France.. Go fuck yourself and grow up.
Oh no, workers who defend their rights instead of accepting what bosses want with a smile. 
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If my firm added two hours on to my work week, I best be getting something beyond "take it and like it". I don't give a shit what other firms do or if its hard for my firm to be competitive. Its a business relationship and the owners problems are not my problems to fix by working more hours that they hired me for, even if I am paid my hourly rate.
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On February 16 2018 07:57 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2018 05:21 Nyxisto wrote:French Jobs Market Turns Corner, But Skills Mismatch A Concern
PARIS - France's unemployment rate dropped below 9 percent for the first time since 2009, adding weight to efforts by President Emmanuel Macron to liberalise a rigid labour market that remains hamstrung by a skills mismatch.
The rate fell to 8.9 percent in the fourth quarter of last year from 9.6 percent in the previous three months, national statistics office INSEE said on Thursday.
Around four months after, as his first major policy initiative as president, Macron changed labour rules to gave firms increased flexibility to hire and fire staff, the French economy is creating jobs at its fastest rate since 2007, INSEE said last week.
New jobs are being created at a faster rate, and U.S. online retail giant Amazon said earlier on Thursday it would add 2,000 permanent contract positions this year.
Even though French unemployment remains higher than the euro zone average, a lack of skilled workers is creating production bottlenecks and snarling up supply chains, company executives told Reuters last week.
Macron's overhaul of the labour code has helped ease those concerns, and hiring on permanent contracts rose 6.4 percent in the fourth quarter to 48 percent, a level not seen since before the global financial crisis.
The employment rate, the percentage of people in jobs, rose to 65.7 percent, the highest level since the early 1980s, with all age groups marking an improvement. source0.7% drop in unemployment in the last quarter is quite remarkable, thanks Mr. Macron! Hahahaha + Show Spoiler +At best hard unemployment (cat. A) was transferred to precarity and part-time (cat. B + C). But to be fair it's not even Macron's deed, 2017 should rather be attributed to the previous government; Macron's counter-reforms had no time to kick in in the last 2017 quarter. 2018 will be Macron's though.
Part time jobs shouldn't be a dirty word. When Schröder reformed the labour market we too had a surge in part time low-wage employment. Ten years later almost all of these people were in fully-insured employment. It's a stepping stone, especially for the long term unemployed. Who btw are a really important group because in most developed countries the labour participation rate has been falling.
And who is really going to hire someone who has their skills degraded and a huge gap in their CV? You can't put someone like that into an indefinite employment contract, nobody is going to hire them in the first place.
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On February 16 2018 07:39 Big J wrote:It's worse than the average EU unemploymant change of -0.8% in the last year. https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/unemployment-rateAustria has experienced -1.2%, which led to the new nationalist social ministry not officially presenting* the numbers in fear of shedding a positive light on the works of the former social-democratic intiated state-programs, that the new government has dismissed as one of their first actions and because the numbers are not putting an explicit focus on foreigner unemployment. It is said that the nationalists want to remodel the report in a way that fits their storylines better. *The presentation of the numbers by the ministry is only a formal act. The office for employment publishes the numbers and the social ministry presents them. Which they didn't do this time. Given that this is a routine act of public servants the implication is, that there was an official order to hold back on the publication. Edit: And all of that is under the assumption that government politics actually matter a lot on that topic, which I don't believe they usually do in the shortrun.
Agreed for once. Reforms often take several years before they start making a real difference. Iirc the IMF has estimates on how long it takes for certain reforms to have an impact. Sometimes it could be as long as 5 years. The current drop in unemployment has much more to do with the general global economic upswing (and the EU in particular) than with good politics. Joe the plumber could be president now and we'd still be seeing large drops in unemployment.
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On February 16 2018 08:36 Plansix wrote:
If my firm added two hours on to my work week, I best be getting something beyond "take it and like it". I don't give a shit what other firms do or if its hard for my firm to be competitive. Its a business relationship and the owners problems are not my problems to fix by working more hours that they hired me for, even if I am paid my hourly rate.
That is all well and good until you are fired as part of the owner closing up shop and moving elsewhere or as part of a down-sizing. France has little competitive edge within EU. It is also all well and good to fight for your current state of employment except when you in turn require, or rather demand, heavy subsidiaries to even run your industry (e.g. french farmers).
As always, the situation is a little more complex than evil rich employers exploiting poor workers in an in-humane hunt for profit although I've no doubt theDwf will be around soon enough to argue exactly that.
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On February 16 2018 09:02 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2018 07:57 TheDwf wrote:On February 16 2018 05:21 Nyxisto wrote:French Jobs Market Turns Corner, But Skills Mismatch A Concern
PARIS - France's unemployment rate dropped below 9 percent for the first time since 2009, adding weight to efforts by President Emmanuel Macron to liberalise a rigid labour market that remains hamstrung by a skills mismatch.
The rate fell to 8.9 percent in the fourth quarter of last year from 9.6 percent in the previous three months, national statistics office INSEE said on Thursday.
Around four months after, as his first major policy initiative as president, Macron changed labour rules to gave firms increased flexibility to hire and fire staff, the French economy is creating jobs at its fastest rate since 2007, INSEE said last week.
New jobs are being created at a faster rate, and U.S. online retail giant Amazon said earlier on Thursday it would add 2,000 permanent contract positions this year.
Even though French unemployment remains higher than the euro zone average, a lack of skilled workers is creating production bottlenecks and snarling up supply chains, company executives told Reuters last week.
Macron's overhaul of the labour code has helped ease those concerns, and hiring on permanent contracts rose 6.4 percent in the fourth quarter to 48 percent, a level not seen since before the global financial crisis.
The employment rate, the percentage of people in jobs, rose to 65.7 percent, the highest level since the early 1980s, with all age groups marking an improvement. source0.7% drop in unemployment in the last quarter is quite remarkable, thanks Mr. Macron! Hahahaha + Show Spoiler +At best hard unemployment (cat. A) was transferred to precarity and part-time (cat. B + C). But to be fair it's not even Macron's deed, 2017 should rather be attributed to the previous government; Macron's counter-reforms had no time to kick in in the last 2017 quarter. 2018 will be Macron's though. Part time jobs shouldn't be a dirty word. When Schröder reformed the labour market we too had a surge in part time low-wage employment. Ten years later almost all of these people were in fully-insured employment. It's a stepping stone, especially for the long term unemployed. Who btw are a really important group because in most developed countries the labour participation rate has been falling. And who is really going to hire someone who has their skills degraded and a huge gap in their CV? You can't put someone like that into an indefinite employment contract, nobody is going to hire them in the first place.
Do you have stats for these claims? The OECD stats suggest the opposite, German average working hours per year per employee are the lowest of all countries, while part-time employment is rather high.
The problem I have with that superflexibel working rights stance is, that it only views one side of the coin. It is shifting the blame for unemployment around between employed and unemployed for demanding too strict rights for themselves and completely disregards the employer side, as if they didn't have rights that are interfering with employment and wages.
Of course, maybe you do believe that employer rights (so in essence property rights) can have a negative impact, but for some reason (like globalization, international competition) you can't change that right now. But then don't blame the working people for not wanting to make room for the unemployed by cutting into their own flesh. These people will, with very good reasoning, start to turn their back on social-democratic parties like the SPD and seek out parties like the AfD that promise to remove the foreigners (which are highly correlated with the unemployed) to begin with and work against globalization.
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On February 16 2018 09:02 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2018 07:57 TheDwf wrote:On February 16 2018 05:21 Nyxisto wrote:French Jobs Market Turns Corner, But Skills Mismatch A Concern
PARIS - France's unemployment rate dropped below 9 percent for the first time since 2009, adding weight to efforts by President Emmanuel Macron to liberalise a rigid labour market that remains hamstrung by a skills mismatch.
The rate fell to 8.9 percent in the fourth quarter of last year from 9.6 percent in the previous three months, national statistics office INSEE said on Thursday.
Around four months after, as his first major policy initiative as president, Macron changed labour rules to gave firms increased flexibility to hire and fire staff, the French economy is creating jobs at its fastest rate since 2007, INSEE said last week.
New jobs are being created at a faster rate, and U.S. online retail giant Amazon said earlier on Thursday it would add 2,000 permanent contract positions this year.
Even though French unemployment remains higher than the euro zone average, a lack of skilled workers is creating production bottlenecks and snarling up supply chains, company executives told Reuters last week.
Macron's overhaul of the labour code has helped ease those concerns, and hiring on permanent contracts rose 6.4 percent in the fourth quarter to 48 percent, a level not seen since before the global financial crisis.
The employment rate, the percentage of people in jobs, rose to 65.7 percent, the highest level since the early 1980s, with all age groups marking an improvement. source0.7% drop in unemployment in the last quarter is quite remarkable, thanks Mr. Macron! Hahahaha + Show Spoiler +At best hard unemployment (cat. A) was transferred to precarity and part-time (cat. B + C). But to be fair it's not even Macron's deed, 2017 should rather be attributed to the previous government; Macron's counter-reforms had no time to kick in in the last 2017 quarter. 2018 will be Macron's though. Part time jobs shouldn't be a dirty word. When Schröder reformed the labour market we too had a surge in part time low-wage employment. Ten years later almost all of these people were in fully-insured employment. It's a stepping stone, especially for the long term unemployed. Who btw are a really important group because in most developed countries the labour participation rate has been falling. And who is really going to hire someone who has their skills degraded and a huge gap in their CV? You can't put someone like that into an indefinite employment contract, nobody is going to hire them in the first place.
Yes, if they're wanted. Which is not the case for everyone.
As for the "stepping stone theory," given than the curves of hard unemployment and part-time jobs progress along parallel tracks, it does not work collectively.
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/UAEqDM5.jpg) Note the acceleration of part-time jobs after the 2008-9 crisis... ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3HEtFzWgAAf9cQ.jpg) Look the C category (part-time with more than 78 hours per month): sharing of work hours does happen... in a savage way.
Regardless of the perspective, scarcity of jobs is the number one problem.
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Sure creating quality jobs is always a high priority, but I think especially taking the time after the financial crisis is a little unfair because for external reasons unemployment exploded, and France is a little bit of a peculiar case because the country seems to have a really hard time with structural unemployment. I can't find a graph but in Germany the number of part time workers doubled over the last 20 years while unemployment declined. So that kind of worked out the way it was supposed to.
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The more polls I look for the upcoming italian elections, the more I'm disheartened ...
this stuff seriously depresses me, not only in a 'political' sense, but as a person I feel there's really little hope if we can go Berlusconi's way after the past governments.
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