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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10947 Posts
February 12 2018 22:09 GMT
#21041
On February 13 2018 06:19 TheDwf wrote:
What the hell is the link between patriarchy in India and the European left? lol


Constant spouting about the patriarchy and identity politics in europe?
Which is just not an actual issue for anyone in "real life" outside the left bubble.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 12 2018 22:12 GMT
#21042
You all solved sexism and racism in Europe? I didn’t get the memo. Is this a recent thing?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 12 2018 22:12 GMT
#21043
On February 13 2018 07:09 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 06:19 TheDwf wrote:
What the hell is the link between patriarchy in India and the European left? lol


Constant spouting about the patriarchy and identity politics in europe?

You must be confusing Europe with the USA
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 12 2018 22:15 GMT
#21044
On February 13 2018 07:12 Plansix wrote:
You all solved sexism and racism in Europe? I didn’t get the memo. Is this a recent thing?


Nope, but we are on the way there. There's not going to be much racism left after the concentration camps have purified the lands again!
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-12 22:20:31
February 12 2018 22:19 GMT
#21045
On February 13 2018 07:12 Plansix wrote:
You all solved sexism and racism in Europe? I didn’t get the memo. Is this a recent thing?


Well, we don't elect unwanted pussy grabbers in Europe. We've made a significant progress though. In terms of social rights, I think Europe is way better than the US.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 12 2018 22:23 GMT
#21046
On February 13 2018 07:19 sc-darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 07:12 Plansix wrote:
You all solved sexism and racism in Europe? I didn’t get the memo. Is this a recent thing?


Well, we don't elect unwanted pussy grabbers in Europe. We've made a significant progress though. In terms of social rights, I think Europe is way better than the US.

Ever heard of Berlusconi? And to say that Strauss-Kahn could have become French president in 2012...
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-12 22:29:25
February 12 2018 22:28 GMT
#21047
Yeah, I knew he was scandalous but I didn't know about sexual assaults. Well, he is European Trump then. :D
What's good about the EU is when a moron like that gets elected they don't rule all of the EU. Things are different with US presidents. Their power is greater.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22559 Posts
February 12 2018 22:39 GMT
#21048
On February 13 2018 05:35 sc-darkness wrote:
As a European, I find this article about India shocking. Summary: parents prefer sons because they bring money, while women are a "cost". Some people make children until they have sons. Women are paid less and aren't considered to be equal to men. In brief, India's society is somewhere in the 19-20th century when compared to Europe?

Article: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-women-rights/india-has-21-million-unwanted-girls-due-to-preference-for-sons-idUSKBN1FJ1PN

Why on earth are you posting this in the EU thread?

Also this is hardly new. We saw the same, and much worse, during China's one child policy.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
February 12 2018 22:58 GMT
#21049
China's one child policy had the bad effect of increased abortion of girls, but overall the one child policy had probably an emancipatory effect, because families were forced to funnel all their money into a single child's career regardless whether it's a boy or girl. The same reduction in birth rates is probably a reason for increase of women's status across the developed world too.

It kind of kickstarted a generation of middle class individuals that's missing in India.

Related talk from a LSE prof
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
February 12 2018 23:04 GMT
#21050
On February 13 2018 07:23 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 07:19 sc-darkness wrote:
On February 13 2018 07:12 Plansix wrote:
You all solved sexism and racism in Europe? I didn’t get the memo. Is this a recent thing?


Well, we don't elect unwanted pussy grabbers in Europe. We've made a significant progress though. In terms of social rights, I think Europe is way better than the US.

Ever heard of Berlusconi? And to say that Strauss-Kahn could have become French president in 2012...


Do you realize that every big player in Europe wants Berlusconi to win the upcoming elections because he 'stands for Europe'? It's really funny and pathetic how people like Merkel were bashing him non-stop and now they are like 'please win' :D
Dating thread on TL LUL
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 12 2018 23:10 GMT
#21051
On February 13 2018 08:04 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 07:23 TheDwf wrote:
On February 13 2018 07:19 sc-darkness wrote:
On February 13 2018 07:12 Plansix wrote:
You all solved sexism and racism in Europe? I didn’t get the memo. Is this a recent thing?


Well, we don't elect unwanted pussy grabbers in Europe. We've made a significant progress though. In terms of social rights, I think Europe is way better than the US.

Ever heard of Berlusconi? And to say that Strauss-Kahn could have become French president in 2012...


Do you realize that every big player in Europe wants Berlusconi to win the upcoming elections because he 'stands for Europe'? It's really funny and pathetic how people like Merkel were bashing him non-stop and now they are like 'please win' :D

Oh yes. My sides are still aching from seeing this:

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sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-12 23:19:24
February 12 2018 23:18 GMT
#21052
Yes, but he is also a friend of Putin... what the fuck? You can't stand for Europe and be Putin's friend. It's a contradiction.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 01:48:58
February 13 2018 01:37 GMT
#21053
Sorry, but I don't see how Indian cultural conduction of marriage is related to politics in Europe except in the most tenuous terms.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
February 13 2018 16:20 GMT
#21054
On February 13 2018 08:18 sc-darkness wrote:
Yes, but he is also a friend of Putin... what the fuck? You can't stand for Europe and be Putin's friend. It's a contradiction.


We're not in kindergarten here. Politics is not black and white.
Dating thread on TL LUL
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
February 13 2018 16:41 GMT
#21055
Well, you can support Putin's friends. I don't want to. There is a red line for me. If there aren't any barriers for you, then good for you.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 20:38:44
February 13 2018 20:37 GMT
#21056
On February 14 2018 01:41 sc-darkness wrote:
Well, you can support Putin's friends. I don't want to. There is a red line for me. If there aren't any barriers for you, then good for you.


Putin has gas. Will you use your moral sense to warm millions of houses? As an example, if Putin stops selling gas to Italy we have enough for 15 days only.
Dating thread on TL LUL
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 13 2018 21:32 GMT
#21057
And thus sums up how Russia has been able to muck around with peoples elections and invade the Ukraine, holding cheap heating fuel and other natural resources over the heads of some nations.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 22:03:53
February 13 2018 22:02 GMT
#21058
On February 14 2018 05:37 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 01:41 sc-darkness wrote:
Well, you can support Putin's friends. I don't want to. There is a red line for me. If there aren't any barriers for you, then good for you.


Putin has gas. Will you use your moral sense to warm millions of houses? As an example, if Putin stops selling gas to Italy we have enough for 15 days only.


I understand your opinion, but the EU has allies who will help with more diverse access. That's what we should do so we don't depend on a country with 19th century politics (Ukraine, Crimea, etc).
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 13 2018 22:03 GMT
#21059
On February 14 2018 06:32 Plansix wrote:
And thus sums up how Russia has been able to muck around with peoples elections and invade the Ukraine, holding cheap heating fuel and other natural resources over the heads of some nations.


Well, what do you expect? We only have right-wing neoliberals and far-right neoconservative no-border parties that believe that freedom is the right of russian oligarchs to fuck over their own working people and then use that money to speculate on housing in the West in exchange for resources, while demanding that "our own" rich are finally allowed to assrape everyone with the West even more, so that they can "stay competitive".
Though I guess I'm too harsh, some of the social-democrats and conservatives are just genuine esoterism-fanatics that believe that money is not a resource of its own and values and prices are not a matter of human demands and therefore of wealth, but just happen equally for some ying-yang reasons.
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
February 13 2018 22:06 GMT
#21060
On February 14 2018 07:03 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 06:32 Plansix wrote:
And thus sums up how Russia has been able to muck around with peoples elections and invade the Ukraine, holding cheap heating fuel and other natural resources over the heads of some nations.


Well, what do you expect? We only have right-wing neoliberals and far-right neoconservative no-border parties that believe that freedom is the right of russian oligarchs to fuck over their own working people and then use that money to speculate on housing in the West in exchange for resources, while demanding that "our own" rich are finally allowed to assrape everyone with the West even more, so that they can "stay competitive".
Though I guess I'm too harsh, some of the social-democrats and conservatives are just genuine esoterism-fanatics that believe that money is not a resource of its own and values and prices are not a matter of human demands and therefore of wealth, but just happen equally for some ying-yang reasons.


US and Azerbaijan offer resources to the EU. Probably more countries that I don't know about. We need more diverse access.
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