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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
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Nyovne
Netherlands19135 Posts
On November 28 2006 23:28 PaleMan wrote: is there anybody here? hello? Why make a shit joke on a very good thread. Nice writeup IntoTheWoW, good read and well written. I really have issues with expressing things in words that I feel. Well people always say Im good at it but Im pretty convinced its not going the way I want normally. I get where I wanna go but not in the way I want to. Leads to me being a very physical person tbh. Thank fuck I don't suffer from the ever present "I need to act like this cause it's socially accepted" syndrome. Some people @ uni just annoy the crap out of me with their fake laughs and fake behavior. Like when I step up and give someone a piece of my mind and the people around act all shocked and stuff This offcourse while they were gossiping and complaining about it amongst themselves like 5 min ago when the person himself wasn't there. Like wtf, you just started about it yourself bitches and now you're acting all like OMGAWD WHAT DID YOU SAY. Disgusts me those people. Like you said, bags of meat. Or just plain and simple cattle, even the university schooled ones. So disappointing. Professionally and intellectually they get trained to be inventive, creative, spontaneous and ever aware. But socially they are still just cattle most of them. Sigh, humans  . | ||
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mdominik86
Canada142 Posts
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
On November 28 2006 23:46 travis wrote: you are confusing me. are you asking if free will exists? It's a good question. I believe that free will does not exist. What is going to happen is based on, in any given moment, what already has happened. Free will is an illusion that goes hand in hand with time. I do, however, think that will exists. I think that we can try harder to do whatever we do, including but not limited to our understanding of our existence. how could you say free will doesnt exist? wouldnt something like a mailman going postal and shooting up his whole workplace be an example of free will? he has the choice of doing that, its not as if he was forced to. you can subsititute that example for a number of other things as well. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Sorry friend, but you would not feel this way if you had some good company or a girl with you. People are more dynamic than some of you give credit for. Nuances. Nuances. | ||
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artofmagic
United States1951 Posts
I've been questioning all of everyone's actions -- why they do that, how their like that, etc... Then question my own personality and actions.. it sucks | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
As travis said, lots of this thoughts dont have words that represent them. It's kind of sad that we have so much right now we have to share but we dont have the words or expressions or whatever to pass them on. Im not saying it is a conspiracy of the machine not to be words for this, but it makes me wonder. We have words for lots of stuff, but not for this. On the other hand it could be a good thing. Who knows? maybe if we had words for everything we are talking right now, those thoughts would lose sense in the word they are being represented. It's not the first timei thought of this (funny, is like im excusing myself with everyone about not thinking this for the first time, if you know what i mean), but its the first time i put it into words. I know the 'world' wouldn't work unless there were certain parametres that limited us. I think we might extinct if we do whatever pleased us / we felt like. This is hard to put into words but, what i mean is like, i guess some/most (who would know?) people think about this sometime, but most suppress this thinking / do not share it. Im not saying everyone should jump around like a monkey when someone asked them for directions. It would surely kill communication. What im trying to say is that most people i known in my life always choose the easy way. You dont have to take the most bizarre option amongst all the solutions you have at hand. But its kind of sad that we had set ourselves in automatic sometimes as to act in the very same way. Is it in our nature as humans? If i ever found a person that spoke or acted however he/she felt like, i guess i would knock her out and lock her in a cage to watch her everyday.  I don't hate automatization, because without it i would not be here today. What i do hate is total automatization. Sometimes people can do unexpected things without hurting their "shell" (we have to call it something), but they don't. I dont pretend that people think for hours before they push the button to turn the lights on as they enter a room. I hate people who do they same stuff over and over. Who are so predictable. "How come i know so many, never really knowing anyone". I know part of life is taking risks without thinking. And of course everyone tries to minimize those risks. Its like people never think or change, they just adapt. With the word robot i wasnt trying to insult. I guess i just call them robots (not everybody, i guess depends on what we are calling robots) because im on this side of the skull. Maybe if i was on the outside, i would call myself a robot. I can't get a good organized text. I start thinking of something, but its like i narrow to one idea or question and then, when i think i'm into something, the path opens again into lots of thoughts. Sorry for the disorganized ideas. My chinese food arrived. ps: When i first wrote this thread i hitted some bootmark button and erased it all (i was nearly finishing, i had to re-write it all  )ps2: the music i putted doesnt even have to do i guess (lyrics wise) with what i wrote, its just the music i was listening in my way home, so hopefully people would get what i mean by reading my post and listening to what i was listening. | ||
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
u all look down and see bags of meat u should look up and see the meat within u | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On November 29 2006 08:53 vGl-CoW wrote: You seem almost depressed about these conclusions - why? Because we miss so much from "the rest", and "them" from "us" | ||
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
On November 29 2006 09:08 IntoTheWow wrote: Because we miss so much from "the rest", and "them" from "us" Hm, yeah, I can understand that. Personally it doesn't really bother me because I already have a bunch of friends who share my mentality and world views so I don't really feel like I'm missing out on a lot of input from other people. As for the other way around - I think it's kind of sad for them because it's an existence with so much more problems and worries but ultimately that's their own problem, nobody can really help them but themselves. I'm kind of annoyed with the arrogant tone this post is putting forth, like me and those who think like me are somehow better than everyone else - I don't think I'm better but I do know I'm different and happier because of it. | ||
Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
Deals with these sorts of issues.On November 29 2006 08:05 vGl-CoW wrote: Funny you should say that. What makes you think things would turn out differently if this happened? I think we'd just go through basically the same steps all over again. Cow I mean that's the only way you (you alone) could entirely escape what we have here. Then it'd be up to your decisions how it followed on...I guess it's the basic fact that we're humans and we've adapted to our earth and found all of it's resources. To put it in the most simple of all terms: 'Lots of stuff depends on other stuff.' On November 29 2006 07:58 xM(Z wrote: efficiency = extinction creativity = evolution but i think u all missed the point u all bitch about concious (learned , reasoned..) reactions of people in diferent situations this is totaly irelevant because theyr action are pre-learned , thus predictable (this happens mostly out of comodity , 'fit in' reasons..)i think most intriguing is the unconcious reaction of people in diferent situations and , based on this , one can awaken 'a lost soul' and make it shine the most fucked up thing is that people this days aways for something to happen that will bring them to life or give some meaning to it the question is : when the moment comes will they have what it takes to rise above theyr miserable existence ? saddly the answer is no and if they cant do it why let someone else ? its a vicious circle and those that make it (do rise above) pay a dearest price (i dont care about the spelling i, suck i my native language too but sorry for my grammar )I'd say humanity cannot be erased in it's entirety...even in a subconscious state we'd act out human things. It'd be the same as being in a dream. I had a dream last night which was incredibly long and detailed...I wrote it this morning...it was 7 pages long. It followed a fairly random pattern, but it still has elements of basic humanity in it...people, words, every day objects etc. I agree there is probably something special within everyone that isn't 'unlocked' because it's never used/surfaced...but I don't know if that something 'special' is just something that extends to a gift on an instrument, or a natural genius for science...all societal things once again...or at least invented and brought on by human development. | ||
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
smurg, you could always go live on your own in the woods. like im talking real secluded area. youd basically be accomplishing the same thing, escaping automation. | ||
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Dametri
United States726 Posts
On November 29 2006 10:07 j0ehoe wrote: what in the fuck is with all these deep threads lately? its cool, but its a little odd considering that this is a bw site =p. All your intellectuals are belong to teamliquid | ||
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Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
On November 29 2006 10:07 j0ehoe wrote: what in the fuck is with all these deep threads lately? its cool, but its a little odd considering that this is a bw site =p. smurg, you could always go live on your own in the woods. like im talking real secluded area. youd basically be accomplishing the same thing, escaping automation. Depends, that's just the ideology behind hermitry really...and I mean, you'd be then left out of anything in the world. I'm really talking about the way society is at the moment...you can't really escape the way you've been brought up and the way society is. You'd eventually be kicked out of the woods when they need more paper. If you live that long I guess haha. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
the dice features mostly genetic heritage from our parents , grandparents...etc , some subconcious survival skills traced back to the time when we came to be and also a 'psihological aspect' the psihological aspect is my explanation for how can stupidity perpetuate its self ) but it also has an ireffutable proof within a nation with some historical spaning one can say :japanese are respectful people , romanians are backstabing selfish pricks , hispanics-latino are hot blooded life loving people ...... what im saying is that a particular characteristic of personality can be unherited just by being a part of a nation (even if he moves at an early age he will still exibit national traites) | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
(Argentinian = Spanish) I believe he can not only write English, but also read it. /ignore Just j/k really. (I have found that translations usually are never better than the originals language - I seen exceptions though.)+ Show Spoiler + sneaky bump | ||
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Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
would you like to suck on my smurg i just smurged on your face sorry guys i'm dripping smurg everywhere | ||
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Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
Bm bm tss. Now keep on topic like I always do. | ||
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