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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-30 12:19:03
November 30 2006 12:17 GMT
#121
Well sorry for not writting a whole bio on the guy im calling an idiot for making people laught AT ALL COSTS. You missed the caps part i guess.

If you dont have info, ask for it. Dont assume things.

I told you, im not using the word robot literally. Its just an expression to explain a way of behaving. Im just thinking of something here.

I taked it offensive. Because you took one phrase of mine and answered by writting something about geeks. Where the fuck did that came from?

The matrix is real maen. No, seriously, it's all in your head.


what kind of answer is that? i'm making an analogy.

Thanks for ruining the discussion on the thread btw.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 30 2006 12:21 GMT
#122
On November 30 2006 03:02 Dametri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2006 02:04 0x64 wrote:
Your question doesn't make sense.
It's like how can a hamburger exist without free hamburger.


Reread our posts and think about it some more.


I think he is telling you that the "free" in free will is an illusion, if I interpreted his post correctly.
KoveN-
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia504 Posts
November 30 2006 12:29 GMT
#123
lol ok. I ruined the thread now, whatever.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 30 2006 12:35 GMT
#124
shut up.
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KoveN-
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia504 Posts
November 30 2006 12:38 GMT
#125
You made this thread to hear peoples oppinions and thoughts, I gave you mine and now you're telling me to shut up? How old are you?

Oh, I missed the caps, it's all SO clear now, thank you. lol.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-30 12:57:39
November 30 2006 12:45 GMT
#126
On November 30 2006 07:44 j0ehoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2006 07:33 SuperJongMan wrote:
On November 30 2006 02:25 Plexa wrote:
[image loading]


think about it


Explain this nonsense.


ALL IN ALL
YOURE ALL JUST BRICKS IN THE WALL
Gold star for you!
now take it the next step further...
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 30 2006 12:51 GMT
#127
On November 30 2006 21:38 KoveN- wrote:
You made this thread to hear peoples oppinions and thoughts, I gave you mine and now you're telling me to shut up? How old are you?

Oh, I missed the caps, it's all SO clear now, thank you. lol.


Yeah i also said, "think then post", seems you mixed those up.

I answer every question or answer you put. You just prefer to answer with "lol". Nice.
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KoveN-
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia504 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-30 12:54:30
November 30 2006 12:53 GMT
#128
On November 30 2006 21:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
Well sorry for not writting a whole bio on the guy im calling an idiot for making people laught AT ALL COSTS. You missed the caps part i guess.

If you dont have info, ask for it. Dont assume things.

I told you, im not using the word robot literally. Its just an expression to explain a way of behaving. Im just thinking of something here.

I taked it offensive. Because you took one phrase of mine and answered by writting something about geeks. Where the fuck did that came from?

Show nested quote +
The matrix is real maen. No, seriously, it's all in your head.


what kind of answer is that? i'm making an analogy.

Thanks for ruining the discussion on the thread btw.


I find it funny you are getting so worked up about what someone says on the internet, are you really that insecure? It was not a personal attack, I was saying it as I just had that particular thought while I was writing, it was more reflecting then an attack against you.

You need to relax buddy.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 30 2006 12:55 GMT
#129
Go post stupid post in other threads. Im just pissed because everyone was having a nice discussion about something. But theres always an idiot that has to appear with the lol-attitude to come post stupid shit in the wrong place.

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KoveN-
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia504 Posts
November 30 2006 13:02 GMT
#130
On November 30 2006 21:55 IntoTheWow wrote:
Go post stupid post in other threads. Im just pissed because everyone was having a nice discussion about something. But theres always an idiot that has to appear with the lol-attitude to come post stupid shit in the wrong place.



I am being real, you seem like a closed minded hipocrite. What is a "lol attitude" exactly? This just proves that you shrugged off my previous posts, labeling me as this... even though I have added alot to this discussion.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 30 2006 13:03 GMT
#131
Ok, someone ban this idiot or ban me.
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
November 30 2006 13:57 GMT
#132
You guys are going nowhere with that. Give it up.

Back on topic:
It seems to me that if you start all the way back since when we were amebae and connect the dots you will end up seeing that all people have basic rules of behavior that they follow unconsciously, like regular animals do, basic needs, the survival instinct, so one gets to a point when everyone seems to have their particular way of dealing with life, surviving, and you find that a good way of going about it is trying to be different, since logically doing things the same way as everyone else is not going to give you any kind of edge, so you start to see other people as unfitting and try to be distinct in an attempt to be "better", as in law of the fittest.

But also, other people might no go that way, or might give up that point of view for other ones, so they wont have as much of this need of being different as one does because they are concentrating in another idea of how to go about life. For instance, in the last several years, I try to influence other people more because that way it seems natural that it will make me more "fit", "better", so I do that by doing things the way I think they should be done, being nice to everyone and so on, playing by the rules that I think are good. I end up doing things that others might not bother doing because they are "too good" to go that way themselves.

As long as i've had that kind of view (that is, that other people seem dull and that I have to be "better" somehow) its affected my way of doing things. For example, I do not pay much attention in class because i see patterns in the group behavior that make me think everyone else is a robot and don't think for themselves when studying, and it makes me refuse to do things that way.

So the main idea that I want to put in the spotlight is that we have evolved as biological machines but the basics are still there if you dig down enough into the behaviors, so any way other choose to act is natural in that it must have an undisclosed originality, its their attempt of filling their basic needs. I think they might look like robots but in fact they are doing what they think is best with the resources they have at hand (their body, intellect, and so on) to get through their problems, because biologically it is what everyone has been set to do, survive, play with the probabilities and hope for the best. Very few people might gamble with that and end up doing things in an original way, but its understandable given the intuitively known probabilities.
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
November 30 2006 21:26 GMT
#133
On November 30 2006 21:45 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2006 07:44 j0ehoe wrote:
On November 30 2006 07:33 SuperJongMan wrote:
On November 30 2006 02:25 Plexa wrote:
[image loading]


think about it


Explain this nonsense.


ALL IN ALL
YOURE ALL JUST BRICKS IN THE WALL
Gold star for you!
now take it the next step further...


YES, GOLD STAR!!!!! next step..?? ;x

this thread made me go listen to floyd for a while yesterday

anyway....why are you two flaming the shit outta each other? this was a good thread...
Only communists disconnect.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
December 01 2006 03:40 GMT
#134
yeah seems i got here too late :/
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
rhcp12312
Profile Joined August 2006
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-01 08:28:01
December 01 2006 08:17 GMT
#135
Or she was just trying to be social and nice.

Believe it or not but being social is instictual for many people.

Girls are far more socially adept than guys, go out to any club and you'll see that. Girls in groups with guys trying to mingle, its always the guys talking to the girls. Or the GUYS buying GIRLS the drinks.

Was it this way in caveman times? Hell no .. guys just went up and fucked girls. In our modern society however pussy has more monetary value than dick (bunch of bullshit) because guys cower to the social tactics girls employ (holding out on guys .. getting them to buy them stuff .. etc).

What I'm saying is you might think that the girl's automatic reaction to start a conversation was tastless and superficial .. but from her point of view its simply a matter of improving the situation at hand (an awkward silence if I might assume).

What does she have to lose out of it? She knows by talking she'll befriend you .. or at least keep you on a neutral level with her.

Its kind of like that game RISK .. in a social environment it definetaly helps to "befriend" individuals one at a time (taking over the room as you would the world in the game RISK). Lots of reasons for this .. one being if I befriend that cockblock at 10 PM then when I'm trying to take her friend back to my house at 2 AM she won't try and drag her friend away from me.

Point being don't automatically assume you know other people's motives and if someone is doing something "without thinking" (like a robot), then this is probably something that has worked for them over time and they've "adapted to" .. if it brought negative consequences upon them I'd hardly believe they would do it "automatically" or without thinking about it.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-01 14:06:16
December 01 2006 14:03 GMT
#136
On November 28 2006 21:46 IntoTheWow wrote:
Start

I just came back from a friend's house who happened to be with his girlfriend. Shallow, cold, empty.. Oh well... He was telling a story about when we where kids (he has the "pissing old aunt" attitude, I can't stand it sometimes). Thing is he always tells this kind of stories even if he has to humiliate lots of people just to steal a
laugh from his girlfriends, whatever. He’s not really a friend, but a guy I have known for a long time, and I guess that’s why I keep up with this kind of stuff.

After some time he managed to get his girlfriend to laugh about something he said, and walked to the kitchen to do something. I didn’t know exactly what because I wasn’t really paying attention. I came back from my thoughts just to find myself in a room alone with this "pile of flesh". There was, of course, and uncomfortable silence. I was thinking of an excuse to leave, but then she started talking about something as I nodded without listening. That’s when I realized.

She only started talking because that is what she was supposed to do. There was no decision behind that act. Just an urge from inside to speak; like she needed to (the phone is ringing, Neo). That is just a reflex. I started thinking of all the people that act with reflex based actions daily. The "hi", repugnance, filling silence with shallow words, etc. I though about all the people that live under the illusion of thinking their actions come from their will only, and not because they are imposed from outside.

Pause

They were definitely not slaves, neither suffered this "thing". "They", I then though "most people" suited it better.
People with a "soul" are hard to find. People that have a different way of thinking, of expressing themselves, people who act randomly (good random, not bad random).

What difference did this girl made in the world? One more robot? But its useless disposing of her. As we know, the world is a machine made from millions of gears and parts (or people) who are supposed to act in a certain way to action other mechanisms in other people. Broken pieces usually end in a newspaper picture, inside a bag or in front of a judge. No matter how bad the piece works (consciously or unconsciously), they only way of living inside the machine is adapting themselves to the other gears. We can't go against the guy with the thick glasses saying something like: "Dr. Ferguson, even if your logic tells you that killing them is not a crime because they never lived, you are WRONG".

Between all the noise inside my head, spiraling down and accelerating... Because the mind works that way, it auto-feeds itself and once it starts you can't really stop it. I guess some will understand what I mean...

I was reacting myself, one of them. Even when I could see all (well most, well just some) of the solutions to a problem, I usually went with the easier, more accepted ones. The common ones.

Choice

Maybe I was not as free as I though I was. Maybe as the big machine has ways of controlling people (shock therapy, or Goth starters kit), it also had ways to control me and my way of thinking. What can one man do? A jihad anti-robot crusade? Useless.

Everybody studies at least once in their life, finds a companion, has children or a pet. You do that or you don't. We know what people usually do though. There’s certainly options, but is there freedom? How can call a decision choosing between black and white?

Rewind

Can’t find the way to express this syndrome?

What I am trying to say is that those I thought were robots are just limited by education/rules/parameters. I don’t even know what to call them now. Maybe it is more than one thing.

Maybe behind those locks in their minds, there’s something special hiding, trying to find moments or words to express itself.

I heard some mumbling and I found myself nodding still as my friend entered the room again. I told him I had to go home and rounded up my list of thoughts on the way home while listening to some music.

The question itself I guess it would be: "is anybody out there?"

Did you realized that maybe there’s a lot more of yourself than you really show. And I don't mean private thoughts, maybe things you want to share but you don’t find a moment or words to do it?

Think, then post, thanks.
[image loading]


ALT + S!


sounds like teenage angst.

you will grow out of it and learn to accept life as what it is.

and make the most of it.

or you can handle it the emo way.
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 01 2006 14:29 GMT
#137
I pretty much completely agree with rhcp's post, and I have nothing real to add to this.
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