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Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
November 26 2006 01:29 GMT
#41
knife wins. you might hit my arm with the bat, but then i put the knife through your vital areas.

knife is also much faster. whereas you have to swing the bat to injure me, i only have to extend my arm to kill you.
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NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
November 26 2006 01:30 GMT
#42
Range is always the most important aspect in a fight with weapons. For instance, bow staff > katana blade. He's only gonna swing when it's a guaranteed hit, which it will surely be at any point in time the knifer is within 5 feet of him. He'll just wear him down with repeated blows before going in for the final strike. Plus a bat does a lot more damage per capita than a knife. You can get stabbed almost anywhere with a knife and walk away from it. One hit with a bat anywhere on your body and something is breaking. People cant attack very well with a broken spine/leg/ribcage/arm/skull.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 26 2006 01:30 GMT
#43
On November 26 2006 10:27 Polemarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 10:22 pooper-scooper wrote:
Knife > bat.

YOu can take 1 bat swing, you can't take one knife stab. Plus as soon as the knife guy closes to the 1 ft distance the bat is ineffective.

I have knife, I try to bait him into swining. Once he swings I jump in and stabb him and take his weak ass off balance arms in wrong position swing.

Alternatively if I can't get him to swing I jump in, put up my left arm to take his bat swing while I stabb him in the belly with my right arm.

My left arm breaks, and I crawl away while he bleeds out and dies

woot, nice.

i figure most knife guys could get in range without taking a really hard hit anyway. if batman doesn't swing early... get in really quick towards batman's back where the swing would be weaker and start knifing.


how about the bat guy can run away just as well as you can 'jump in and stab his stomach then wait for him to bleed and die'
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Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 01:33 GMT
#44
On November 26 2006 10:21 Way wrote:
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if you think of the bat as a sword instead

then you tell me how the hell in the world the guy with the butterfly knife is going to get first hit?

what kind of pussies are holding these sluggers, if its too heavy then why isnt it baby tyke bat vs butter knife


sword is WAY better than a bat. you don't have to wind up nearly as much as a bat to do enough damage (so it's effectively faster), and you can stab.

sword is a one-shot gg weapon, whereas a bat is not
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
November 26 2006 01:35 GMT
#45
yeah it takes a lot of momentum to get the bat going

plus it would be relatively easy for the knife guy to stay out of range until the bat guy takes a missed swing

i say knife
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Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
November 26 2006 01:37 GMT
#46
On November 26 2006 10:33 Polemarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 10:21 Way wrote:
[image loading]


if you think of the bat as a sword instead

then you tell me how the hell in the world the guy with the butterfly knife is going to get first hit?

what kind of pussies are holding these sluggers, if its too heavy then why isnt it baby tyke bat vs butter knife


sword is WAY better than a bat. you don't have to wind up nearly as much as a bat to do enough damage (so it's effectively faster), and you can stab.

sword is a one-shot gg weapon, whereas a bat is not


like i said, what kind of panzy is holding this bat if its too heavy and slow for him, weight is hardly the factor in consideration

its about length as mentioned earlier, that's my main point, you gona get ur brain wacked or arm wacked, and not like the bat guy is just going to stand there and not try to dodge all the lame ass jab attempts, and when you get hit first how fast are you going to recover to lunge at him with your small little knife? once he does the damage he's already got the upper hand and can defend either by dodging/running etc,

there is no instant counter attack like playing street fighter on your playstation
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 01:37 GMT
#47
On November 26 2006 10:30 alffla wrote:
how about the bat guy can run away just as well as you can 'jump in and stab his stomach then wait for him to bleed and die'


fair enough, the batman could run away, that's probably the smartest thing for him to do.

but if he's running away, he's unable to swing his bat well... so he's just running away.
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Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
November 26 2006 01:38 GMT
#48
On November 26 2006 10:35 lil.sis wrote:
yeah it takes a lot of momentum to get the bat going

plus it would be relatively easy for the knife guy to stay out of range until the bat guy takes a missed swing

i say knife


if you want to stay out of range you might as well take a nap on the court, and he's not going to swing if you're out of range, and if you dodge you gona get tired also
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
November 26 2006 01:39 GMT
#49
ppl who said the baseball bat wins are stupid.
real fights don't look like boxing or martial arts. it's infight all the way. the only way you can avoid an infight is by running away. if the bat-guy is lucky he hits the other guy but who cares? the knife will still find its way.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
November 26 2006 01:40 GMT
#50
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
November 26 2006 01:41 GMT
#51
oh and if the bat guy takes a swing that's not a fatality blow, the knife guy can just grab onto the bat and go in for the kill
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
November 26 2006 01:41 GMT
#52
? towheover said you can take a blow from a bat but not a stab from a knife


You can kill people with 1 blow from a bat, people dont die immediately from stab wounds unless its in their neck or something

Someone with a knife would get fucked up, people are acting like a baseball bat is retardedly heavy or something, it at most weighs a few 2-4 lbs and the person would be ruined if they got hit once
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
November 26 2006 01:42 GMT
#53
If the guy with the bat doesnt knock out the knife guy in the first 2-3 blows, hes as good as dead.
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Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
November 26 2006 01:43 GMT
#54
On November 26 2006 10:39 Asta wrote:
ppl who said the baseball bat wins are stupid.
real fights don't look like boxing or martial arts. it's infight all the way. the only way you can avoid an infight is by running away. if the bat-guy is lucky he hits the other guy but who cares? the knife will still find its way.


ya, sure doesnt matter, who cares if you get whacked in the head with a louisville slugger, i m sure the knife will find its way
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
November 26 2006 01:44 GMT
#55
On November 26 2006 10:42 Cloud wrote:
If the guy with the bat doesnt knock out the knife guy in the first 2-3 blows, hes as good as dead.


People dont recover from blows with a bat, if you get hit with a bat you will be on the ground unless the guy swinging it is a pussy

it doexnt matter where they hit you really, unless it was in your arm which in that case that arm would probably be broken and goopd luck trying to grab a bat full swing from someone with 1 arm and stab with the other, its just not happening
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Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 01:44 GMT
#56
On November 26 2006 10:37 Way wrote:
like i said, what kind of panzy is holding this bat if its too heavy and slow for him, weight is hardly the factor in consideration

its about length as mentioned earlier, that's my main point, you gona get ur brain wacked or arm wacked, and not like the bat guy is just going to stand there and not try to dodge all the lame ass jab attempts, and when you get hit first how fast are you going to recover to lunge at him with your small little knife? once he does the damage he's already got the upper hand and can defend either by dodging/running etc,

there is no instant counter attack like playing street fighter on your playstation


it's not that the bat guy is unable to carry the bat, geez. it's that he has to wind up and swing it with lots of momentum. that's what makes it slower.

bringing swords and bows into this question is like talking about a blessed +3 quarterstaff... pointless.
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
November 26 2006 01:44 GMT
#57
As I have some experience with weapon assessment. The knife guy would definately win.

Why? The bat guy can't make a full swing cause if he does it takes him way to long to recover from the swing. At best he can get one big hit in and then get stabbed about 10 times in rapid succession which will be fatal.

Long story short and I cba to totally analyse this cause its a shit thread to get started with. Unless the guy with the bat takes the guy with the knife out in one hit (which he should get due to reach), which seems *very* unlikely he's pretty much done for. You're prolly better off with some martial skill with your bare hands against a knife then with a heavy bat.

just my 2 cents.
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
November 26 2006 01:46 GMT
#58
On November 26 2006 10:22 pooper-scooper wrote:
Knife > bat.

YOu can take 1 bat swing, you can't take one knife stab. Plus as soon as the knife guy closes to the 1 ft distance the bat is ineffective. (imagine trying to hit someone with a bat that is right up against you, you can't get a good hit).

I have knife, I try to bait him into swinging. Once he swings I jump in and stabb him and take his weak ass off balance arms in wrong position swing.

Alternatively if I can't get him to swing I jump in, put up my left arm to take his bat swing while I stabb him in the belly with my right arm.

My left arm breaks, and I crawl away while he bleeds out and dies

Beaten to it!

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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
November 26 2006 01:46 GMT
#59
On November 26 2006 10:44 Polemarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 10:37 Way wrote:
like i said, what kind of panzy is holding this bat if its too heavy and slow for him, weight is hardly the factor in consideration

its about length as mentioned earlier, that's my main point, you gona get ur brain wacked or arm wacked, and not like the bat guy is just going to stand there and not try to dodge all the lame ass jab attempts, and when you get hit first how fast are you going to recover to lunge at him with your small little knife? once he does the damage he's already got the upper hand and can defend either by dodging/running etc,

there is no instant counter attack like playing street fighter on your playstation


it's not that the bat guy is unable to carry the bat, geez. it's that he has to wind up and swing it with lots of momentum. that's what makes it slower.

bringing swords and bows into this question is like talking about a blessed +3 quarterstaff... pointless.


you dont need to wind up and shit and you act like that takes more than a s plit second anyway, hes not there sitting on a pitch, hes trying to hit the person in the face.
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Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
November 26 2006 01:47 GMT
#60
On November 26 2006 10:44 Polemarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 10:37 Way wrote:
like i said, what kind of panzy is holding this bat if its too heavy and slow for him, weight is hardly the factor in consideration

its about length as mentioned earlier, that's my main point, you gona get ur brain wacked or arm wacked, and not like the bat guy is just going to stand there and not try to dodge all the lame ass jab attempts, and when you get hit first how fast are you going to recover to lunge at him with your small little knife? once he does the damage he's already got the upper hand and can defend either by dodging/running etc,

there is no instant counter attack like playing street fighter on your playstation


it's not that the bat guy is unable to carry the bat, geez. it's that he has to wind up and swing it with lots of momentum. that's what makes it slower.

bringing swords and bows into this question is like talking about a blessed +3 quarterstaff... pointless.


same thing, its neglecting your stupid argument about momentum, because the same can be said for the sword, length is a greater factor than your momentum idea

you dont need to land a killing blow on your first strike
you land a blow with the bat and already the knife guy is at a disadvantage and has to recover and try to aim and hit on target
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