Settle this Fight Debate - Page 23

On November 26 2006 09:39 exalted wrote:
-You cannot use any outside weapons, bite, or do anything other than use the weapons you have.


Oh I didn't remember this part... Ok, if you can't kick then GG bat.

On November 26 2006 17:34 QuietIdiot wrote:
Someone had to do it -_-;

Poll: Bat or Knife
(Vote): Bat
(Vote): Knife
(Vote): Improbable.

On December 07 2006 12:16 ToT)Testie( wrote:
Thing is, who really controls the fight? I say the knifer. They don\'t tire half as easily and the person with the bat WANTS to keep you at a distance. They will end up swinging out of sheer fear if you play it right. They can\'t rush you after all. You can rush them at any moment they make a mistake.

Go to your kitchen, act like a crazy person, grab a big kitchen knife and make a few stabbing motions. If anyone catches you, assure them you\'re not planning anything. Or.. assure them of nothing, your preference really. Anyway, then go pick up your bat, and swing it.

Swing the bat constantly for 30 seconds. Stab with the knife constantly for 30 seconds. A lot more stabs than swings.

Then, plant your feet like any athlete would when you swing as well. If you don\'t plant and power up, it\'s not doing enough damage to take you out.

Then, take the knife. Lunge with it a few times. Different angles, realize how versatile it is. And the speed with which it moves. A bat does not add such an incredible amount of distance that it cannot be closed within a few steps.

Say they fake stab at you. Or they make some feints. The person with the bat swings, to keep the knife at a distance. Knowing 2/3rds to 80% of the length of his weapon is useless when hitting someone.

Any kick after a bat swing will at best be off balance, and have little real power behind it and will only make the bat user more awkward at fighting.

You step into that swing after falling back, giving them time to recoil but they swing again. However you\'d be within the bats range. It wouldn\'t knock you out or kill you if you got hit with the middle of the bat, only the end.

You must connect with the end of the bat, and even then... I can\'t see someone taking a single body shot with a bat and not surviving. Pain means very little when your goal is to kill the other person not hurt them and make them say \"ow ow I give up\"

If they swing, you can jump in 2 steps in which it\'d be a close range fight and you\'d end up with nothing more than a bruise because you couldn\'t connect with the end of the bat.
1. You can\'t reverse the momentum after it\'s reached the halfway point, and if you do you\'re already fucked because your weapon will do no damage what so ever because of the awkward control you have.
2. If you complete the swing, it will take you some seconds to swing again.

The slow motion video you showed only proves the knifes case. Same with the other video. All these men have time where they plant, and get ready. After swinging once it will take them time to swing again. You cannot swing when one is in close range.

Athletic or not, it is due to momentum and the motions that bats will always take longer to swing. And to have enough power to do damage, you need to power that swing up. You can\'t just keep the knife user at bay by holding it like a sword, and poking at him. It\'s designed, and weighed for it\'s purpose, swinging from one side to another. Most other motions are awkward.

As I said, bat users suck at strategy.

And athletic or not these users have the same type of build. An athletic person could close distance just as easily with the knife, if not a bit faster. And a full extension of your arm, and a stab is far quicker than a wide swing with an object.

And athletic may mean a blunt weapon may do even less damage as vitals are padded by muscles which may end up damaged, but have done their job protecting vital areas. A knife tears muscles easily, and quickly.

On December 07 2006 17:08 rockstar101 wrote:
I remember my friend who took martial arts telling me about how they teach you to fight someone with a baseball bat, since it is a common item. He was taught to quickly step into the swing because if you get hit with the end of the back, you're fucked, but if you get hit with the middle of the bat, it's not so bad. They taught him to take the hit in the ribs as far into the handle of the bat as possible, then to bring your arm down over the bat to pin it there. It will hurt, but if you have a knife in the other hand, its GG. No idea how viable that all is, but its what I remember.

On December 08 2006 08:23 Sun wrote:
I've been hit with plenty of wooden baseball bats before and it doesn't fucking hurt.

On December 08 2006 08:23 Sun wrote:
I've been hit with plenty of wooden baseball bats before and it doesn't fucking hurt.

On December 08 2006 08:23 Sun wrote:
I've been hit with plenty of wooden baseball bats before and it doesn't fucking hurt. Getting stabbed is a totally different ballgame. Get that through your thick skulls. instead of theorycrafting how about you kids try it first. Then come back here and tell your 'wild' stories.

P.S. This thread will so hit 50 pages -_-;;

On December 08 2006 14:54 a-game wrote:
dude i've been stabbed in the heart 37 times, and it didn't hurt. knife ftw!!!1!11