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exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 01:20:51
November 26 2006 00:39 GMT
#1
I saw this posted on another forum, started discussing with friends, and wanted to post it here to see TL's thoughts:

The conditions are as follows:

-Both fighters have the same body type, same skill set, nobody has a clear advantage over the other.
-You cannot use any outside weapons, bite, or do anything other than use the weapons you have.
-You can use the weapons in any way you'd like.
-It is a fight to the death.

Now which weapon would you take: A single butterfly knife
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or a standard Louisville slugger.
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Each weapon is to be used against the other weapon.

Please explain your answers.

edit: I don't know how to make a poll
too easy
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 00:42:35
November 26 2006 00:42 GMT
#2
bat. its pretty hard to avoid a bat...

edit: make a poll
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 26 2006 00:43 GMT
#3
...atm i think the guy with the louisville slugger wins. isn't it much longer and bigger :|

unless the butterfly knife dude throws it with deadly accuracy straight to the eye or some shit =.=
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
November 26 2006 00:44 GMT
#4
knife
stick up clothes D:
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
November 26 2006 00:45 GMT
#5
I think the bat would win. A blow to the forearm would send that knife straight out of his hand. Unless the guys have some crazy martial arts training which allows them to parry the bat somehow... even then, would it be enough?
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 00:51:54
November 26 2006 00:45 GMT
#6
As is the customary way of TL.net, allow GoogleFight to settle this debate for you.

Edit - I forgot to mention this is a retarded thread
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Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 00:57:45
November 26 2006 00:46 GMT
#7
edit: no super throwing explanation allowed
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
November 26 2006 00:48 GMT
#8
if the knife guy manages to dodge the first bat blow then it's gg, and if he gets hit by it it's gg
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exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
November 26 2006 00:50 GMT
#9
Assume two regular people (imagine you were in the situation, which would YOU choose)

The "knife being thrown = gg" argument therefore doesn't apply.
too easy
dancefayedance!~
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
396 Posts
November 26 2006 00:52 GMT
#10
Well considering they both are mirror images against one another the person holding the bat would win because the bat > the knife easily due to its size. None of this fancy martial arts stuff would prevail because they both are equally matched concerning fighting abilities. It basically comes down to Bat > Knife or Knife > Bat
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2904 Posts
November 26 2006 00:53 GMT
#11
Most real figths end up with the persons rushing in fast and grappeling it out. The bat is useless in such a situation, while the butterfly is the perfect weapon. The guy with the bat needs to take out the knife in one hit. That's hard since you need to actually swing the bat and get a clean hit at someplace where it matters. You could break his other arm and it's not sure that it would stop him. So if the knife guy can dodge the first hit or make it glances he runs up, hugs the other guy and stabs in him the stomach untill he dies.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 26 2006 00:53 GMT
#12
On November 26 2006 09:50 exalted wrote:
Assume two regular people (imagine you were in the situation, which would YOU choose)

The "knife being thrown = gg" argument therefore doesn't apply.


well regular ppl can throw knives as well right =.=

then it all depends on where it hits

and then what's 'regular' ;o
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
November 26 2006 00:54 GMT
#13
On November 26 2006 09:50 exalted wrote:
Assume two regular people (imagine you were in the situation, which would YOU choose)

The "knife being thrown = gg" argument therefore doesn't apply.


Oh yeah, bat for sure. You'd have your fucking skull bashed in unless you throw your arm in the way, in which case your shit will be ruined quickly for you have no arms...
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exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
November 26 2006 00:54 GMT
#14
alffla - put it this way: If you were put in that situation, you would throw the knife?

Even if you hit him, if was non-lethal, you would lose the fight immediately. You would have to guarantee a KO
too easy
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 26 2006 00:55 GMT
#15
On November 26 2006 09:54 exalted wrote:
alffla - put it this way: If you were put in that situation, you would throw the knife?

Even if you hit him, if was non-lethal, you would lose the fight immediately. You would have to guarantee a KO


hm i see ur point lol

i still side by the bat then
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Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
November 26 2006 00:56 GMT
#16
On November 26 2006 09:53 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Most real figths end up with the persons rushing in fast and grappeling it out. The bat is useless in such a situation, while the butterfly is the perfect weapon. The guy with the bat needs to take out the knife in one hit. That's hard since you need to actually swing the bat and get a clean hit at someplace where it matters. You could break his other arm and it's not sure that it would stop him. So if the knife guy can dodge the first hit or make it glances he runs up, hugs the other guy and stabs in him the stomach untill he dies.


he just said they have equal skill.. u're just saying the knife guy's faster than the bat guy and can dodge him better, wtf o.O
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 00:57 GMT
#17
hmm... i think the knife would win...

the bat would be too slow unless the guy's prepared in a batter's ready stance (or too weak if he tries to jab with it or just swing it back and forth or something).

so assume batter's stance. if batman's right handed then his left shoulder will be facing forwards.

the knife guy knows which way the bat would be coming from. knife guy could lunge in and stab around the back, or back of neck with his right hand, possibly having to block with his left arm (and having it broken or something), but then it'd be gg
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 26 2006 00:58 GMT
#18
On November 26 2006 09:57 Polemarch wrote:
hmm... i think the knife would win...

the bat would be too slow unless the guy's prepared in a batter's ready stance (or too weak if he tries to jab with it or just swing it back and forth or something).

so assume batter's stance. if batman's right handed then his left shoulder will be facing forwards.

the knife guy knows which way the bat would be coming from. knife guy could lunge in and stab around the back, or back of neck with his right hand, possibly having to block with his left arm (and having it broken or something), but then it'd be gg


but maybe in mid lunge the bat would've knocked the brains out of the lunging small knife guy already ;O!!!
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Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 01:00 GMT
#19
On November 26 2006 09:56 Way wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 09:53 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Most real figths end up with the persons rushing in fast and grappeling it out. The bat is useless in such a situation, while the butterfly is the perfect weapon. The guy with the bat needs to take out the knife in one hit. That's hard since you need to actually swing the bat and get a clean hit at someplace where it matters. You could break his other arm and it's not sure that it would stop him. So if the knife guy can dodge the first hit or make it glances he runs up, hugs the other guy and stabs in him the stomach untill he dies.


he just said they have equal skill.. u're just saying the knife guy's faster than the bat guy and can dodge him better, wtf o.O


even if they have equal skill, the knife guy will be relatively faster, cuz the bat is heavier and needs more commitment to an attack than the knife.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
November 26 2006 01:01 GMT
#20
On November 26 2006 10:00 Polemarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 09:56 Way wrote:
On November 26 2006 09:53 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Most real figths end up with the persons rushing in fast and grappeling it out. The bat is useless in such a situation, while the butterfly is the perfect weapon. The guy with the bat needs to take out the knife in one hit. That's hard since you need to actually swing the bat and get a clean hit at someplace where it matters. You could break his other arm and it's not sure that it would stop him. So if the knife guy can dodge the first hit or make it glances he runs up, hugs the other guy and stabs in him the stomach untill he dies.


he just said they have equal skill.. u're just saying the knife guy's faster than the bat guy and can dodge him better, wtf o.O


even if they have equal skill, the knife guy will be relatively faster, cuz the bat is heavier and needs more commitment to an attack than the knife.


lets assume a normal person can do 20 push-ups :op
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