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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
November 26 2006 01:03 GMT
#21
guy with the bat should easily win. He just has to not be foolish and make a huge swing and miss.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 26 2006 01:04 GMT
#22
very important detail being left out is where the fight will be taking place and how much space the fighers have. W
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 01:05 GMT
#23
On November 26 2006 09:58 alffla wrote:
but maybe in mid lunge the bat would've knocked the brains out of the lunging small knife guy already ;O!!!


i think it depends on how good both people are.

if they're both tough enough to be willing to take a hit and do some quick moves i think the knife guy would win. i think that's not asking too much of average people

if it's a noob game though, the knife guy would piss his pants and just run cuz he doesn't want to get hurt
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Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
November 26 2006 01:06 GMT
#24
On November 26 2006 09:58 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 09:57 Polemarch wrote:
hmm... i think the knife would win...

the bat would be too slow unless the guy's prepared in a batter's ready stance (or too weak if he tries to jab with it or just swing it back and forth or something).

so assume batter's stance. if batman's right handed then his left shoulder will be facing forwards.

the knife guy knows which way the bat would be coming from. knife guy could lunge in and stab around the back, or back of neck with his right hand, possibly having to block with his left arm (and having it broken or something), but then it'd be gg


but maybe in mid lunge the bat would've knocked the brains out of the lunging small knife guy already ;O!!!


LoL
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
November 26 2006 01:07 GMT
#25
On November 26 2006 10:04 BlackJack wrote:
very important detail being left out is where the fight will be taking place and how much space the fighers have. W


Assume a basketball-court, all outside entrances sealed for the fight.
too easy
Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
November 26 2006 01:07 GMT
#26
On November 26 2006 10:04 BlackJack wrote:
very important detail being left out is where the fight will be taking place and how much space the fighers have. W


i think there are just too many factors to take into consideration and the scenario needs to be more specific in general
lawl mart v2.0
Profile Joined November 2006
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 01:09:13
November 26 2006 01:08 GMT
#27
well if it was an open area i would go with the knife, because you run faster with a knife and you can get away ;D
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Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 01:08 GMT
#28
On November 26 2006 10:01 Wysp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 10:00 Polemarch wrote:
On November 26 2006 09:56 Way wrote:
On November 26 2006 09:53 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Most real figths end up with the persons rushing in fast and grappeling it out. The bat is useless in such a situation, while the butterfly is the perfect weapon. The guy with the bat needs to take out the knife in one hit. That's hard since you need to actually swing the bat and get a clean hit at someplace where it matters. You could break his other arm and it's not sure that it would stop him. So if the knife guy can dodge the first hit or make it glances he runs up, hugs the other guy and stabs in him the stomach untill he dies.


he just said they have equal skill.. u're just saying the knife guy's faster than the bat guy and can dodge him better, wtf o.O


even if they have equal skill, the knife guy will be relatively faster, cuz the bat is heavier and needs more commitment to an attack than the knife.


lets assume a normal person can do 20 push-ups :op


well in order for batman to knock knife guy's skull out or whatever, he's gonna have to do a huge swing. otherwise knife guy can just take the pussy hit and start stabbing.
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
November 26 2006 01:09 GMT
#29
On November 26 2006 10:08 lawl mart v2.0 wrote:
well if it was an open area i would go with the knife, because you run faster with a knife and you can get away ;;


all exits sealed, you'd just tire yourself out to a steady pursuit.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2904 Posts
November 26 2006 01:09 GMT
#30
On November 26 2006 09:56 Way wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 09:53 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Most real figths end up with the persons rushing in fast and grappeling it out. The bat is useless in such a situation, while the butterfly is the perfect weapon. The guy with the bat needs to take out the knife in one hit. That's hard since you need to actually swing the bat and get a clean hit at someplace where it matters. You could break his other arm and it's not sure that it would stop him. So if the knife guy can dodge the first hit or make it glances he runs up, hugs the other guy and stabs in him the stomach untill he dies.


he just said they have equal skill.. u're just saying the knife guy's faster than the bat guy and can dodge him better, wtf o.O


No I didn't. I said that it takes longer to use the bat efficently. It's almost impossible to dodge a butterfly in melee so it doesn't matter much, it's a much faster weapon. Furthermore while the bat has range you need a good swing to transmit power efficently so you can't move around as much because that leaves you open. The knife will be on the offensive jumping back and forth and probing for a weakness, the bat needs to be lined up to get 1 good shot in before the knife guy closes. Since getting such a hit is hard for a normal person I'm with the guy who has the knife.
If both were perfect it would be no contest because whoever hits first wins in such a situation, but they aren't.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 01:11 GMT
#31
On November 26 2006 10:08 lawl mart v2.0 wrote:
well if it was an open area i would go with the knife, because you run faster with a knife and you can get away ;D


haha, if this was a CS forum they'd be saying the other guy could just switch weapons to knife to match your speed
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Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
November 26 2006 01:12 GMT
#32
If the knife guy tries to attack, he loses. The bat guy should have absolutely no problem smashing a guy with the same physical specs as himself.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 26 2006 01:13 GMT
#33
i would do bat, bat has longer range
Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
November 26 2006 01:14 GMT
#34
who cares if the knife guy is faster, he can just jump around like a monkey and tire himself out while the bat guy just leans on the basketball pole and swings at him to make him back away, lOl
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
November 26 2006 01:17 GMT
#35
The guy with the knife would not even land a hit.
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OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
November 26 2006 01:17 GMT
#36
definitely the bat
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
Way
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada565 Posts
November 26 2006 01:21 GMT
#37
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if you think of the bat as a sword instead

then you tell me how the hell in the world the guy with the butterfly knife is going to get first hit?

what kind of pussies are holding these sluggers, if its too heavy then why isnt it baby tyke bat vs butter knife
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 01:27:08
November 26 2006 01:22 GMT
#38
Knife > bat.

YOu can take 1 bat swing, you can't take one knife stab. Plus as soon as the knife guy closes to the 1 ft distance the bat is ineffective. (imagine trying to hit someone with a bat that is right up against you, you can't get a good hit).

I have knife, I try to bait him into swinging. Once he swings I jump in and stabb him and take his weak ass off balance arms in wrong position swing.

Alternatively if I can't get him to swing I jump in, put up my left arm to take his bat swing while I stabb him in the belly with my right arm.

My left arm breaks, and I crawl away while he bleeds out and dies
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 01:24 GMT
#39
the knife guy just has to take (possibly breaking left arm) or dodge (back or by getting in close) one shot ... then once he gets in close it's over.

knife ftw.
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Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
November 26 2006 01:27 GMT
#40
On November 26 2006 10:22 pooper-scooper wrote:
Knife > bat.

YOu can take 1 bat swing, you can't take one knife stab. Plus as soon as the knife guy closes to the 1 ft distance the bat is ineffective.

I have knife, I try to bait him into swining. Once he swings I jump in and stabb him and take his weak ass off balance arms in wrong position swing.

Alternatively if I can't get him to swing I jump in, put up my left arm to take his bat swing while I stabb him in the belly with my right arm.

My left arm breaks, and I crawl away while he bleeds out and dies

woot, nice.

i figure most knife guys could get in range without taking a really hard hit anyway. if batman doesn't swing early... get in really quick towards batman's back where the swing would be weaker and start knifing.
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