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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On September 20 2014 13:51 eviltomahawk wrote: I once got spanked with chopsticks when I was 5. It definitely stung, but I'm pretty sure I deserved it. This is the tragedy of the guys who got spanked: They try to justify it. Was wasn't spanked with a rod, but with the hand and don't think one can 'deserve' it. I remember it not only as injustice, but also – and that really hurt, dawg – absence of love from my parents. | ||
Nacl(Draq)
United States302 Posts
On October 15 2014 06:45 Maxie wrote: Never. Seems like not-europe is barbaric in this regard. I don't know... My friend has the last name Thilliez and he got slapped for interrupting his dad. This was in front of the entire dinner party. He was born in France and moved here when he was 4ish. This event occurred at 12. | ||
Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On October 15 2014 06:51 [F_]aths wrote: This is the tragedy of the guys who got spanked: They try to justify it. Was wasn't spanked with a rod, but with the hand and don't think one can 'deserve' it. I remember it not only as injustice, but also – and that really hurt, dawg – absence of love from my parents. Did you take getting your inoculations as an absence of love from your parents? Those can hurt a lot, especially to a child. Causing minor pain is not always a bad thing. | ||
IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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Falling
Canada11320 Posts
On October 01 2014 02:49 screamingpalm wrote: Same here. My father didn't really show anger when he gave us the belt- and this only made it even more confusing I think. When my schizophrenic mother accused us of whatever crazy ideas she drummed up, when we denied it it made her even more angry that she felt we were lying. When he got home, he calmly lined us up and belted out bare asses without listening to reason. If you guys want to know what effects this has on a kid, I can say for me it caused me to rebel big time. Started hanging out with the "bad crowd" at school, caused a lot of nervous issues and made me violent. Hell, I still bite my fingernails today. And of course, the last time my father went to hit me ended up with me tackling him and punching him in the face- dog turned on the master. But yeah, that emotion-less violence which people advocate here is the more disturbing kind imo. Sort of like the serial killer that stands stoic and shows no remorse which our perverted justice system is so intrigued with to better understand etc. That might be the proximate cause, but I suspect that the ultimate cause is: When my schizophrenic mother accused us of whatever crazy ideas she drummed up, when we denied it it made her even more angry that she felt we were lying. Any form of discipline would be unjust punishment. I can't imagine what that would be like, but consistent unjust punishment without the ability to appeal would mess with any child. | ||
GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On October 15 2014 09:48 Millitron wrote: Did you take getting your inoculations as an absence of love from your parents? Those can hurt a lot, especially to a child. Causing minor pain is not always a bad thing. Having to resort to physical violence to teach someone who is likely at least two decades younger than you something is most definitely a bad thing | ||
Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 15 2014 11:58 GTPGlitch wrote: I really wonder sometime who the children are here discussing this and who are the grown ups discussing this. It's really the wildest pop psychology epidemic saying the real reason parents spank is they're feeling powerless and forced to resort to physical violence. I mean, damn, anybody around here had a real stinging swat that didn't draw blood and only hurt a little sitting down on it for like an hour? I'm kind of feeling spoiled children is the new virtue, because at least you know their loving parents never spanked them!Having to resort to physical violence to teach someone who is likely at least two decades younger than you something is most definitely a bad thing | ||
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micronesia
United States24629 Posts
On the other hand, anything beyond an open-palmed smack on a non-exposed area is becoming abuse. | ||
Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On October 15 2014 12:24 Danglars wrote: I really wonder sometime who the children are here discussing this and who are the grown ups discussing this. It's really the wildest pop psychology epidemic saying the real reason parents spank is they're feeling powerless and forced to resort to physical violence It's actually just called being a reasonable person. Since when are anger and physical aggressiveness considered signs of authority? | ||
fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
The point would be, that those parents are powerless - if they consciously feel that way is secondary. I'm kind of feeling spoiled children is the new virtue, because at least you know their loving parents never spanked them! Accusing younger generation of being spoiled because of too mild parenting is a really old tradition. It's documented since the antiquity. I can't see how this can be an argument in this topic at all. | ||
Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8614 Posts
On October 15 2014 13:59 Animzor wrote: Interesting how people who got spanked are actually defending that sort of behaviour. Reminds me of the circumsision thread. Nobody wants to grow up to realize that something fucked up happened to them and in many cases they are going to do the same shit to their children to solidify their belief that it is OK behaviour or to take back the power that was taken from them as children. It's the same thing with child abuse and rape. It is cyclical, people who get abused as children are likely to abuse their own children. Very sad. lol this is such a bullshit post. basically what youre trying to say is everyone on tl that has been spanked is mentally traumatized but they refuse to admit it. get your head out of your ass. most people here who have been spanked has no problems with it because they know that showing discipline isnt the end of the world. its not denial, its the truth. as stated multiple times already in this thread, i hardly think spanking is the problem for children growing up with problems. it all comes down to whether or not they feel loved by their parents. parents who spank kids are still capable of showing their kids huge amounts of love, at which point the spanking becomes nothing more than a disciplinary act. parents who dont show love to their children, regardless of whether they hit them or not, will end up with kids that are weird because theyll treat others with the same amount of love that they received from their parents. but i will say one thing. i also feel that the younger generations are extremely spoilt and undisciplined. generations before mine probably thought of my generation the same way, but nowadays with stricter laws on child discipline and such i cant help but feel that the limitations on how a parent is allowed to discipline their child has led to children nowadays feeling like they can do whatever the fk they want and get away with it. i dont believe anyone has the right to tell a parent how to discipline their child, except for the child him/herself. obviously there has to be a line drawn, but nowadays when parents are getting questioned because a teacher found out that their student was given a light spanking last night, i think its pathetic how soft everyone has gotten | ||
tshi
United States2495 Posts
On October 15 2014 13:59 Animzor wrote: Interesting how people who got spanked are actually defending that sort of behaviour. Reminds me of the circumsision thread. Nobody wants to grow up to realize that something fucked up happened to them and in many cases they are going to do the same shit to their children to solidify their belief that it is OK behaviour or to take back the power that was taken from them as children. It's the same thing with child abuse and rape. It is cyclical, people who get abused as children are likely to abuse their own children. Very sad. This is bullshit. You're oversimplifying a complex situation to the point of no longer adding anything useful to the discussion. | ||
ElizarTringov
Bulgaria317 Posts
On October 15 2014 06:51 [F_]aths wrote: This is the tragedy of the guys who got spanked: They try to justify it. Was wasn't spanked with a rod, but with the hand and don't think one can 'deserve' it. I remember it not only as injustice, but also – and that really hurt, dawg – absence of love from my parents. If your parents clothed you, fed you, met most of the necessities of life but happened to spank you, that can't be deemed as them not loving you. An example of parents not loving you would be if something like what happened to Victor Ortiz happened to you. Victor Ortiz was abandoned as a child by both of his parents, now that is something you can call not being loved by your parents. | ||
ElizarTringov
Bulgaria317 Posts
On October 15 2014 14:21 evilfatsh1t wrote: lol this is such a bullshit post. basically what youre trying to say is everyone on tl that has been spanked is mentally traumatized but they refuse to admit it. get your head out of your ass. most people here who have been spanked has no problems with it because they know that showing discipline isnt the end of the world. its not denial, its the truth. as stated multiple times already in this thread, i hardly think spanking is the problem for children growing up with problems. it all comes down to whether or not they feel loved by their parents. parents who spank kids are still capable of showing their kids huge amounts of love, at which point the spanking becomes nothing more than a disciplinary act. parents who dont show love to their children, regardless of whether they hit them or not, will end up with kids that are weird because theyll treat others with the same amount of love that they received from their parents. but i will say one thing. i also feel that the younger generations are extremely spoilt and undisciplined. generations before mine probably thought of my generation the same way, but nowadays with stricter laws on child discipline and such i cant help but feel that the limitations on how a parent is allowed to discipline their child has led to children nowadays feeling like they can do whatever the fk they want and get away with it. i dont believe anyone has the right to tell a parent how to discipline their child, except for the child him/herself. obviously there has to be a line drawn, but nowadays when parents are getting questioned because a teacher found out that their student was given a light spanking last night, i think its pathetic how soft everyone has gotten I have to agree with this and add that behavior is controlled through measured amounts of pleasure and pain. Trying to control behavior by just giving kids rewards for good deeds and not punishing them for bad deeds does not work, I know because I have tried it. | ||
IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
Anyway, I couldn't remember if I was spanked or not, until I started reading this thread, then the feeling of helplessness struck me, so thanks TL for releasing a forever to be hidden wound! I don't know who spanked me, but I doubt it happened more than a couple of times, and even then, I'm 90% sure it was my mom, who would never had hurt me seriously so yeah. Being helpless howewer, is a terrible feeling, and I'm not sure why would anyone encourage it. I'm fine with the occasional slaps, I remember all my slaps - there weren't many, but god, were they memorable! edit: Isn't it interesting that the majority of us says we won't treat our children the same way our parents did with us, but it's probably the same exact thing our parents thought? To be honest, it scares me. | ||
Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
At the same time the people who werent spanked as kids or beaten often have views that this is why kids "nowadays" are spoiled and they believe a spanking is neccesary. I really find that scary and thought provoking. Also another point. The debate about beating vs spanking or pain vs shock. Both are equally bad to me. The pain part becuase it reminds of torture (of kids by the ones that are supposed to love you). The shock part becuase this is basically psycological terror, inducing fear in a child to control them. Doesn't sound like a very healthy way to make a balanced person. | ||
mantequilla
Turkey775 Posts
By the way is Turkey considered in Asia of in Europe in these kind of polls because results are highly different ![]() | ||
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