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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
wtf would Rachmaninoff and Mozart do if they saw this? ![[image loading]](http://www.jfdolphins.com/images/Ex11.jpg) Horowitz supposedly gave up on learning a Godowsky study, which makes me wonder if Godowsky could play half the stuff he wrote. Are 20th century composers insane? I can't see this crap becoming classics like Chopin and Beethoven. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27156 Posts
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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KwarK
United States43350 Posts
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
On November 17 2006 21:42 Kwark wrote: I know that as audio recording was first being invented some company got Rachmaninov to test it and after hearing his piano roll recording he said "Gentlemen, I have just heard myself play". Which would suggest he could to me. You know what I meant. | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
Beethoven not so much, he wrote for the sake of writing. It's playable, but uncomfortable. Rachmaninoff... some of it is unplayable if your hand isn't big enough - but he could play all his music. Most composers can play their own music :X modern composers I don't pay attention to, though. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
What you don't udnerstand was that these guys were usually among the very best pianists of their time. Cf. Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Mozart | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
All of the (edit: major) significant composers to history that wrote keyboard music, like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt, Schumann, Rachmaninoff, etc., etc., could obviously play their music. Well, except Schumann.  GI, do you mean "classical" as everything pre-modern or Western art music in general? | ||
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
Anyway, arent there any piano playing programs? A pc doesnt have hands so in theory you could compose imposible music and be able to actually hear it... | ||
thedeadhaji
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 17 2006 23:36 skindzer wrote: Its piano not keyboard, they are differente things. Anyway, arent there any piano playing programs? A pc doesnt have hands so in theory you could compose imposible music and be able to actually hear it... Ah, I should've probably been less possibly misleading. "Keyboard" in English generally means electronic keyboard, but there is a second meaning that (within the context of classical music repertoire) means the body of instruments that are played with the hands that have keys set up in chromatic fashion--namely, the piano, harsichord, clavichord, organ, etc. Keyboard music thus refers to works written by Bach and others before the piano was invented as well as those written for the piano itself. But yeah, you could input anything into any number of computers/devices (MIDI, although digital music samples would often sound better) and get it to play back any music at all. The limitations of electronics should be far beyond those of humans. However, it's not really a performance, and you'd be very hard-pressed to get a decent imitation of a good piano's sonority and any specific articulation at all, so it wouldn't sound near to real. edit: Haji, the majority of Chopin's music is very pianistic (fitting the hand), at least in my experience playing and hearing it. | ||
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sOnagi[3.33]
Korea (South)886 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
On November 18 2006 00:04 Myrmidon wrote: Ah, I should've probably been less possibly misleading. "Keyboard" in English generally means electronic keyboard, but there is a second meaning that (within the context of classical music repertoire) means the body of instruments that are played with the hands that have keys set up in chromatic fashion--namely, the piano, harsichord, clavichord, organ, etc. Keyboard music thus refers to works written by Bach and others before the piano was invented as well as those written for the piano itself.it. Thanks  didnt know that. | ||
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
On November 17 2006 23:05 GrandInquisitor wrote: All classical composers could play their music. What, they write it and then say "Guess that'll sound good."? What you don't udnerstand was that these guys were usually among the very best pianists of their time. Cf. Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Mozart Yeah, I know that and respect the genius composers like the ones you listed. Liszt could probably sight read half the classical music written before his time. I'm referring to composers such as Sorabji(sp?) who composed the measure shown in the picture in the first post. The piece is something like 4 hours long and the picture shows one of the easier measures. The score is supposedly 7 inches thick, which is another thing that makes me wonder if the guy could actually play it. | ||
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-WGT-Stars-
United States888 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
T_T damn i shoudl sleep 11:30 am now and i havent slept (damn you osl) | ||
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doedrikthe2nd
Sweden981 Posts
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tiffany
3664 Posts
On November 18 2006 11:38 doedrikthe2nd wrote: Skilled musicians just have to look at the notes and they know exactly what it sounds like knowing what it sounds like and actually experiencing the sound are two different things. any skilled musician knows that. | ||
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artofmagic
United States1951 Posts
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