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On August 26 2014 03:58 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
Amazon looks to be way way worse than google.
As far as i know, i cant buy almost anything amazon sells in my country, whereas google services are more/less global.
Also, as a company, although i have heard that their store is great, and their kindle readers are very good too, didn't amazon wasn't making any profit until recently?
I trust google way, way more than amazon.
Google Books is in 57 countries, music in 43, TV shows in 5, movies in more than I can be bothered to count (>57).
All depends on what you want from Google.
Google's OWN products, e.g. maps etc, are available pretty much worldwide.
Equally, Amazon's OWN offerings, such as Amazon Web Services, are also available worldwide.
Most of what restricts Amazon (and Google) is that the content is from third parties who don't necessarily own worldwide rights to what they are offering anyway.
When the company has full control, e.g. Google Maps or AWS, they can offer it where they want.
Amazon Kindle is available in 170 countries, more than most non-Google offerings from Android.
http://www.the-ebook-reader.com/kindle-international.html
It's then up to the people who sell the books to offer them in the relevant location(s) for you, and if a publisher doesn't have worldwide rights, there's not much Amazon can do about it.
When it comes to Twitch (or Youtube), the users create and upload the content, and on Youtube, for instance, there are region locks on who can watch a video. Sure, Youtube itself might work in your country, but not all videos will, because the person uploading has decided to add restrictions for whatever reason, and Google lets them.
There's more chance that nothing will change with Twitch under either Google or Amazon, because BOTH companies operate worldwide, and Twitch is a user-content driven service, so the restrictions would be added by the creator/streamer when they work with the worldwide service.
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United States7481 Posts
Renamed now that it's official:
http://www.twitch.tv/p/thankyou
Letter from the CEO August 25, 2014 Dear Twitch Community, It’s almost unbelievable that slightly more than 3 years ago, Twitch didn’t exist. The moment we launched, we knew we had stumbled across something special. But what followed surprised us as much as anyone else, and the impact it’s had on both the community and us has been truly profound. Your talent, your passion, your dedication to gaming, your memes, your brilliance - these have made Twitch what it is today. Every day, we strive to live up to the standard set by you, the community. We want to create the very best place to share your gaming and life online, and that mission continues to guide us. Together with you, we’ve found new ways of connecting developers and publishers with their fans. We’ve created a whole new kind of career that lets people make a living sharing their love of games. We’ve brought billions of hours of entertainment, laughter, joy and the occasional ragequit. I think we can all call that a pretty good start. Today, I’m pleased to announce we’ve been acquired by Amazon. We chose Amazon because they believe in our community, they share our values and long-term vision, and they want to help us get there faster. We’re keeping most everything the same: our office, our employees, our brand, and most importantly our independence. But with Amazon’s support we’ll have the resources to bring you an even better Twitch. I personally want to thank you, each and every member of the Twitch community, for what you’ve created. Thank you for putting your faith in us. Thank you for sticking with us through growing pains and stumbles. Thank you for bringing your very best to us and sharing it with the world. Thank you, from a group of gamers who never dreamed they’d get to help shape the face of the industry that we love so much. It’s dangerous to go alone. On behalf of myself and everyone else at Twitch, thank you for coming with us. Emmett Shear, CEO
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On August 26 2014 05:05 Antoine wrote:Renamed now that it's official: http://www.twitch.tv/p/thankyouShow nested quote +Letter from the CEO August 25, 2014 Dear Twitch Community, It’s almost unbelievable that slightly more than 3 years ago, Twitch didn’t exist. The moment we launched, we knew we had stumbled across something special. But what followed surprised us as much as anyone else, and the impact it’s had on both the community and us has been truly profound. Your talent, your passion, your dedication to gaming, your memes, your brilliance - these have made Twitch what it is today. Every day, we strive to live up to the standard set by you, the community. We want to create the very best place to share your gaming and life online, and that mission continues to guide us. Together with you, we’ve found new ways of connecting developers and publishers with their fans. We’ve created a whole new kind of career that lets people make a living sharing their love of games. We’ve brought billions of hours of entertainment, laughter, joy and the occasional ragequit. I think we can all call that a pretty good start. Today, I’m pleased to announce we’ve been acquired by Amazon. We chose Amazon because they believe in our community, they share our values and long-term vision, and they want to help us get there faster. We’re keeping most everything the same: our office, our employees, our brand, and most importantly our independence. But with Amazon’s support we’ll have the resources to bring you an even better Twitch. I personally want to thank you, each and every member of the Twitch community, for what you’ve created. Thank you for putting your faith in us. Thank you for sticking with us through growing pains and stumbles. Thank you for bringing your very best to us and sharing it with the world. Thank you, from a group of gamers who never dreamed they’d get to help shape the face of the industry that we love so much. It’s dangerous to go alone. On behalf of myself and everyone else at Twitch, thank you for coming with us. Emmett Shear, CEO
Also up on the Twitch blog now: http://blog.twitch.tv/2014/08/a-letter-from-the-ceo-august-25-2014/
Has a more readable format.
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Well, Amazon takeover is a better prospect than a Google takeover, but still :/
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Congratulations Emmett Shear. You made it.
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On August 26 2014 05:13 Grettin wrote:
Glad it wasn't google.
Amazon isn't much better if you're on the mega-corp paranoia train.
Maybe Elon Musk will buy HitBox
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Can't wait for them to remove the Android app and make it an Amazon ecosystem exclusive.
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On August 26 2014 05:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Can't wait for them to remove the Android app and make it an Amazon ecosystem exclusive.
Oh god no!
Seriously though, hopefully this will help improve quality abroad, with Twitch being able to take advantage of the datacenters of Amazon.
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This is going to be an interesting few months. Hopefully in a positive way as well.
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I thought it was going to be Google, but it doesn't matter. Amazon is just as good.
I don't understand what everyone had against Google though. They couldn't have been the worst company that's for sure. Microsoft would have been much worse.
I think Google would have been a better choice because they already have established technology in place (Youtube), but it doesn't matter. As long as it will improve the product across the globe.
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On August 26 2014 05:15 xes wrote:Amazon isn't much better if you're on the mega-corp paranoia train. Maybe Elon Musk will buy HitBox
His concern was not about the mega-corp paranoia train, considering you a) missed the fact that he knows Amazon is buying it b) i'm 99.99% sure he knows Amazon is a mega-corp.
I don't know why he personally dislikes Google, but I also dislike them although I have no problem with Amazon. Google is a hypocritical company with a twisted worldview. For your information,they have also actively not just helped the NSA in their spying program but actively done the work of the CIA in several countries. Even though I disagree with Egypt/iran's oppressive governments, it certainly is not Google's role to do the dirty work of the CIA. A definite must read article on Google's dirty work: http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/5222
Now about that "Do no Evil" motto..... yeah.
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On August 26 2014 05:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Can't wait for them to remove the Android app and make it an Amazon ecosystem exclusive.
The problem with exclusivity is that it can sometimes kill a product.
Look at some of Sony's technology that was exclusive (MD players, BetaMax) that also failed. Keep in mind MD players and BetaMax was superior technology to CD players and VHS.
Being exclusive segregates you from large chunks of the audience, and that is something large corporations don't want.
fwiw, the iOS Twitch app sucks the last time I tried it.
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On August 26 2014 05:35 sekritzzz wrote:
Now about that "Do no Evil" motto..... yeah.
It's "Don't be Evil". Why is it the people that bitch about the motto the most are the ones that never get it right?
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On August 26 2014 05:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Can't wait for them to remove the Android app and make it an Amazon ecosystem exclusive.
Amazon has an android store because they know they can't make kindle standalone in world of iOS and Android. Maybe they'll pull the Twitch android app from the main google store and then put it on their own though
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On August 26 2014 05:35 sekritzzz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 05:15 xes wrote:On August 26 2014 05:13 Grettin wrote:
Glad it wasn't google. Amazon isn't much better if you're on the mega-corp paranoia train. Maybe Elon Musk will buy HitBox His concern was not about the mega-corp paranoia train, considering you a) missed the fact that he knows Amazon is buying it b) i'm 99.99% sure he knows Amazon is a mega-corp. I don't know why he personally dislikes Google, but I also dislike them although I have no problem with Amazon. Google is a hypocritical company with a twisted worldview. For your information,they have also actively not just helped the NSA in their spying program but actively done the work of the CIA in several countries. Even though I disagree with Egypt/iran's oppressive governments, it certainly is not Google's role to do the dirty work of the CIA. A definite must read article on Google's dirty work: http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/5222Now about that "Do no Evil" motto..... yeah.
Google isn't exempt from corruption and deception, but that article isn't about them doing "dirty work". Its about one individual in the company doing it, not all of Google.
In fact, the top execs in Google outted the individual responsible for the "dirty work".
They can be hypocrites when it comes to the "Do no evil" motto, but this is not the best example of it.
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On August 26 2014 05:35 sekritzzz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 05:15 xes wrote:On August 26 2014 05:13 Grettin wrote:
Glad it wasn't google. Amazon isn't much better if you're on the mega-corp paranoia train. Maybe Elon Musk will buy HitBox His concern was not about the mega-corp paranoia train, considering you a) missed the fact that he knows Amazon is buying it b) i'm 99.99% sure he knows Amazon is a mega-corp. I don't know why he personally dislikes Google, but I also dislike them although I have no problem with Amazon. Google is a hypocritical company with a twisted worldview. For your information,they have also actively not just helped the NSA in their spying program but actively done the work of the CIA in several countries. Even though I disagree with Egypt/iran's oppressive governments, it certainly is not Google's role to do the dirty work of the CIA. A definite must read article on Google's dirty work: http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/5222Now about that "Do no Evil" motto..... yeah.
amazon is just as bad but in a different dimension. they are "only" abusing their market position, commiting anti-competitive practices and poorly treating their workers
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Well that was unexpected...
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Hmmm. Amazon seems like it might handle Twitch better than Google. Hopefully they won't make the mobile app Amazon-exclusive.
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How will this affect Twitch.tv -> youtube.com ? I mean, will google continue to support twitch videos being uploaded to youtube.
I don't agree with people here, with this being the better choice than google. I think something amazing could've come out of some semi-fusion between youtube and twitch.
I mean, both companies have vast amount of resources, to the point where it doesn't matter which they've picked, but instead focusing on 'dedication'. What could amazon give twitch, that google couldn't ? Twitch is perfect as it is, all it needs, is exposure and I would have picked google to be the better company in that area.
Eitherway, Congrats. This is something I wouldn't have believed possible 5 years ago.
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