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rtsAlaran
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany383 Posts
December 16 2013 08:51 GMT
#61
Where do you guys actually play online?
www.lichess.org looks pretty awesome
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
December 16 2013 09:05 GMT
#62
Hey fellow TL chess lovers. I'd love to play against some other TL peeps. I play using an android app called chess time. I also can use this website: http://www.soundkeepers.com/chess/e_mail_chess/index.php

pm me if you wanna play! gotta have at least 3 days per move though because I don't have reliable electricity.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
December 16 2013 09:32 GMT
#63
On December 16 2013 16:54 imBLIND wrote:
Lol sry, I meant are there any sharp openings for when black or white when either side opt for an indian attack or some g3/b3/ openings, not for sharp openings that start with nf3/nc3 or g3/b3. Basically, how would you transposition an indian attack into something sharp?

And the only reason i really like sharp lines is cause I play a bunch of blitz chess and I really like setting up traps for easy points >.>

Well, when playing Black, you won't always be able to get sharp positions; but getting to standard King's Indian after 1. Nf3 should be sharp enough, no? There's always an option to play Benoni Defense, even if White fianchettoes his f1-Bishop.

Other than that, as a 1. d4 player myself, I have lots of difficulties battling Dutch Defense, but that's not necessarily the most cutthroat opening; just creates lots of interesting positions where it can get tricky.
idscy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 12:21:21
December 16 2013 10:29 GMT
#64
On December 16 2013 01:41 TheBB wrote:
Kasparov's and Fischer's immortal games are there already, unless you have a non-standard definition of those, in which case you should at least give opponent and year. (Yes, I know you didn't have time.)

Missing are of course the immortal game (Anderssen–Kieseritsky) and the evergreen game (Anderssen–Dufresne), and I guess we also have to mention Morphy–Duke Karl, Count Isouard from the romantic era.

I also like to mention Botvinnik–Smyslov, game 14 from their 1954 match, and Polugaevsky–Nezhmetdinov (1958). Also Petrosian–Spassky, game 10 from their WC match is nice.


Yes I totally brain-afked. No explanation.

Kasparov vs. Karpov 1990 World Championship Ruy Lopez (Very Sharp game)

Kasparov-Karpov, Same opening, different World Championship

A very concise game Karpov vs. Korchnoi 1974 Candidates (Dragon)

A more recent BLINDFOLDED Dragon Svidler vs. Carlsen (maybe not objectively epic but it is a blindfolded game, so this adds novelty!)

The game I mentioned earlier
Deep Fritz (computer) vs. Kramnik Blunder of the Century

I won't link any game here and just mention the match:
Kasparov vs. Deep Blue (Computer) --This was important because Kasparov (arguably the best player of all time) had lost to a computer, which were once thought (in Fischer's day for example) to be very terrible at chess. So people consider this to be the end of an era. Nowadays computers play an integral part of high level chess---NOT to be used during the games, but instead to be used extensively in analysis, training and various preparations (novelties from openings). A computer analysis was broadcasted in conjunction with two announcers for the games during the recent Carlsen-Anand World Championship.

Finally I will just provide a last Karpov Kasparov World Championship game in which Karpov displays beautiful positional play.
Karpov v. Kasparov 1985 World Championship

There are of course other epic games that probably should be on that page (Tal vs. Fischer tremendous tactical games, Botvinnik games, Capablanca, etc) but these can be added over time since theres no rush. =)

Edit: adding now some games of Tal....expect these to be tactical shootouts!

Tal-Hecht Queen Sac!

Tal-Fischer !! QID

Tal's "Immortal" (Against Bent Larsen of all people :D) very tactical, very nice 1965 Candidates

Tal-Karpov 1987--- Tal would die 5 years later

Botvinnik-Tal World Championship match 1960 (Full of TACTICS)

edit: ah yes I forgot Tal-Smyslov 1959 Candidates
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
December 17 2013 05:04 GMT
#65
Could someone go into detail about a couple terms that I keep seeing thrown around?

First, what exactly IS an immortal game? I've seen people reference THE immortal game, and also reference different immortal games from different players...

Also, could someone describe positional play? I sense that it's a sort of play style where you push to get your pieces into positions considered generally strong, rather than going for strong tactical play (i.e., you're not going to be making many sacrifices?). Could a couple examples be posted? Maybe something that would help illustrate positional vs. (???) play?
For Aiur???
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
December 17 2013 10:05 GMT
#66
ChessX looks good.

Btw, what opening database do you use?
I know that there is chessbase.
Is there something comparable for free or at a cheaper prize?
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
December 17 2013 10:17 GMT
#67
On December 17 2013 14:04 Fighter wrote:
Could someone go into detail about a couple terms that I keep seeing thrown around?

First, what exactly IS an immortal game? I've seen people reference THE immortal game, and also reference different immortal games from different players...

Also, could someone describe positional play? I sense that it's a sort of play style where you push to get your pieces into positions considered generally strong, rather than going for strong tactical play (i.e., you're not going to be making many sacrifices?). Could a couple examples be posted? Maybe something that would help illustrate positional vs. (???) play?

Originally, there was only one game called "Immortal" - Anderssen vs Kieseritzky, London 1851. Only later, it became a name given to many more outstanding performances: Sample Collection.

The "positional play" refers to situations where there are no direct threats for either side and both players are forced to make lengthly preparations to ever hope for the advantage. The game involves non-forced maneuvering and lots of effort is put to things like countering your opponent's plans, centralizing pieces, playing on both flanks / stretching enemy defences etc.

A good example is this: Karpov vs Unzicker, Nice 1974. White locks down the only open file on the Queenside with his Bishop, then gains some extra space on the Kingside and uses his better mobility to infiltrate the position through weak white squares. His main point is that Black cannot exchange pieces without improving his opponent's position and he can't counterattack either, because the only good route (the A-file) is closed. Last but not least, Black's pieces are stepping on each others' toes and with lack of space, that spells defeat (good positional players never exchange his opponents' clumsy pieces, because their placement often aids them more than their actual owner).

During "tactical play" a player tries to prove that concrete features of the position are actually more important than well-known chess principles. Often times, that means players will make absurd-looking moves like leaving their pieces hanging, giving up "stronger" pieces for "weaker" ones, disregarding his center control or pawn structure, etc. Sometimes, the tactical play has also a psychological background - it aims to confuse your opponent, who suddenly has to look for his way through minefield, because often times, only very precise play can save the side that's "the reciever" of a tactic. But usually, tactics are based on some positional advantages: greater mobility, weaker enemy King, unprotected pieces in opponent's camp or passed pawns. Look up Mikhail Tal for examples.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
December 17 2013 10:21 GMT
#68
Life is too short for chess. - Byron
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
December 17 2013 10:39 GMT
#69
On December 17 2013 19:21 Manit0u wrote:
Life is too short for chess. - Byron



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Life is too short for chess... but that is the fault of life, not chess. - William Napier.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 11:18:59
December 17 2013 11:16 GMT
#70
On December 04 2013 06:22 Ettick wrote:
Played a game where my opponent copied all my moves yesterday, was pretty annoying but I won eventually even though I made some dumb moves.
Only been playing chess for a month or two and had never seen this happen before, is there an easy way to win vs. copiers?


1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nxe5 Nxe4
4. Qe2 Qe7
5. Qxe4 ...

Results in the position: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If your opponent is dull enough to go this line. Enjoy
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
idscy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 19:21:22
December 17 2013 19:20 GMT
#71
For the people trying to find a good chess GUI:

As a person who has (literally) tried every single one available, look no further than Scid vs PC

It has everything you would expect from a contemporary chess GUI as well as significantly streamlined database support and engine integration (much better than winboard or arena and even chessbase which, to get the good version is proprietary, if I'm up to date)

It has customizable interfaces and if you are/into programming then the source code is readily available. It comes with lightweight installers for windows and mac (linux--you know what to do)

Since I discovered this program about a year ago I have really seen absolutely no reason to switch .
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
December 17 2013 20:22 GMT
#72
On December 18 2013 04:20 idscy wrote:
For the people trying to find a good chess GUI:

As a person who has (literally) tried every single one available, look no further than Scid vs PC

It has everything you would expect from a contemporary chess GUI as well as significantly streamlined database support and engine integration (much better than winboard or arena and even chessbase which, to get the good version is proprietary, if I'm up to date)

It has customizable interfaces and if you are/into programming then the source code is readily available. It comes with lightweight installers for windows and mac (linux--you know what to do)

Since I discovered this program about a year ago I have really seen absolutely no reason to switch .


awesome, thx!
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
December 18 2013 19:16 GMT
#73
On December 17 2013 20:16 mishimaBeef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 06:22 Ettick wrote:
Played a game where my opponent copied all my moves yesterday, was pretty annoying but I won eventually even though I made some dumb moves.
Only been playing chess for a month or two and had never seen this happen before, is there an easy way to win vs. copiers?


1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nxe5 Nxe4
4. Qe2 Qe7
5. Qxe4 ...

Results in the position: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If your opponent is dull enough to go this line. Enjoy

A relevant video by kingscrusher posted today about a copycat:



"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 19:48:28
December 18 2013 19:47 GMT
#74
On December 17 2013 19:05 urboss wrote:
ChessX looks good.

Btw, what opening database do you use?
I know that there is chessbase.
Is there something comparable for free or at a cheaper prize?


Sorry, saw your post just now. If you want a opening book you can go to the stockfish website
( http://stockfishchess.org/download/ ). and scroll down to 'Book'. When you install your Stockfish Engine under Chessbase you just need to select book.bin under custom options. (If you didn't throw the book file into the same folder as the engine file, you might need to point the engine to the right path)

The Opening book should contain every opening that you can imagine
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 20:34:19
December 18 2013 20:32 GMT
#75
Great thread.

A further recommendable free chess application: Lucas Chess.

This tool is great. It's primarily aimed at supporting single player practice and analysis. It provides a bunch of full game/tactical training modes against AI with different playing strength, tutor features, various analysis modes, integration of different chess engines, a huge load of puzzles, and a convenient GUI. Great for beginners searching for an easy-access single player practicing tool, but also for advanced players looking for an ELO training tool. May be worth being listed in the OP.
Mutation complete.
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
December 19 2013 21:10 GMT
#76
What will the next super-gm tournament be? And when?
mind mind mind mind mind mind
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
December 20 2013 09:20 GMT
#77
The next tournament is Tata Steel Chess in Wijk aan Zee.
http://www.tatasteelchess.com
It starts on January 10.
Last year's champion won't play unfortunately.
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
December 21 2013 08:05 GMT
#78
I'm looking to buy a book on endgames. I'm thinking of getting either Silman's Complete Endgame Course or Seirawan's Winning Chess Endings. Which would you guys recommend?
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
December 29 2013 15:57 GMT
#79
On December 21 2013 17:05 Monocle wrote:
I'm looking to buy a book on endgames. I'm thinking of getting either Silman's Complete Endgame Course or Seirawan's Winning Chess Endings. Which would you guys recommend?

Fundamental Chess Endings by Karsten Müller and Frank Lamprecht
Basic Chess Endings by Reuben Fine

Those are for most fundamental positions like Rook + Pawn vs Rook, Major Piece vs Minor Piece etc.

For more strategical, complex examples, I'd say Modern Endgame Practice by Alexander Beliavsky and Adrian Mikhalchishin is worth a shot. It doesn't contain too many notes explaining strategy, though - mainly just variations and many, many excercises to go through by yourself. But some stuff like Karpov's technique or opposite-coloured Bishops is quite instructive.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 08 2014 10:00 GMT
#80
On December 30 2013 00:57 wingpawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 17:05 Monocle wrote:
I'm looking to buy a book on endgames. I'm thinking of getting either Silman's Complete Endgame Course or Seirawan's Winning Chess Endings. Which would you guys recommend?

Fundamental Chess Endings by Karsten Müller and Frank Lamprecht
Basic Chess Endings by Reuben Fine

Those are for most fundamental positions like Rook + Pawn vs Rook, Major Piece vs Minor Piece etc.

Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual is the book on this topic.
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