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Plane Crash at SFO (Asiana Airlines) - Page 2

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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 20:03:31
July 06 2013 20:00 GMT
#21
On July 07 2013 04:48 iMrising wrote:
Oh my gosh i got landed at SFO literally 14 hours ago from Istanbul.
That could have been me


No, it couldn't have been you. It's not the fault of the airport.

It was the airplane.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 20:02:02
July 06 2013 20:01 GMT
#22
wow hope everyone is ok. From the tweet, seems like it so that's good. Wonder why the tail just fell off though :O
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 20:03:39
July 06 2013 20:02 GMT
#23
On July 07 2013 05:00 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 04:48 iMrising wrote:
Oh my gosh i got landed at SFO literally 14 hours ago from Istanbul.
That could have been me


No, it couldn't have you. It's not the fault of the airport.

It was the airplane.

Yeah I didn't want to say anything.

Glad to hear that the passengers are mostly fine. Got a bit worried by I heard about a commercial airplane crash x_x

On July 07 2013 05:01 BigFan wrote:
wow hope everyone is ok. From the tweet, seems like it so that's good. Wonder why the tail just fell off though :O

The tail hit the runway. I wonder if it's the pilot's mistake or if some instrument screwed up or something.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia300 Posts
July 06 2013 20:10 GMT
#24
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Seems like the fire was pretty bad. Hope the report about not many people getting hurt is accurate though.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 20:16:52
July 06 2013 20:14 GMT
#25
On July 07 2013 05:02 Djzapz wrote:
The tail hit the runway. I wonder if it's the pilot's mistake or if some instrument screwed up or something.

With only having the info that I just heard from the eye witnesses something like that is highly likely to be pilot error.

Landing with the tail first can pretty much only happen when you're landing too short (aka you run into something that's in your way, before the actual runway), assumed you were higher than you actually were (pretty hard to fuck that one up) or having the wrong speed and over-correcting it during the landing.

Edit: No need to panic after seeing the burned out aircraft on the stream. This picture was taken by a passenger while leaving. Should prolly be added to the OP:

[image loading]
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
metric.system
Profile Joined May 2013
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 20:17:52
July 06 2013 20:16 GMT
#26
Whoah! I dont know you survive a fire that burned the roof off unless most of them managed to get off the plane before it got too bad. Scary stuff. edit: so relieved to see them walk away; the fire was after they left.

That was a 777 too, modern plane in a modern airport.
Methinks it has to be human error.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 20:28:11
July 06 2013 20:24 GMT
#27
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5809207/ is a great source right now. The "cartwheeling" seems to be a false report, according to the aviation guys in that forum it apparently landed short and hit the sea wall with its tail. ;;

Another video from another angle showing that it went much better than the pictures of the aftermath make it look like:



Netizen quote from over there that seems to make sense:
Landing gear impacted the sea wall and aircraft pitched high to rip tail off. Pilot wasn't even near the piano keys...landed way short. Not making accusations, but you can clearly see point of impact on sea wall and tail section is completely disintegrated before piano keys.


(Crappy) picture of the runway:
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/68376/middle/phpvgL4To.jpeg
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
July 06 2013 20:26 GMT
#28
Gosh. Hope eveyone is alright.
dude bro.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
July 06 2013 20:29 GMT
#29
The tail often touches the ground in lift-offs and landings, that's why they reinforce the back. I guess this is what happens when the nose is too high AND the airplane "bounces", or then the back landing gear was faulty.
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5740 Posts
July 06 2013 20:29 GMT
#30
On July 07 2013 05:02 Djzapz wrote:
I wonder if it's the pilot's mistake or if some instrument screwed up or something.

John Nance explained on ABC that the 777 engines have some history with ice accumulation in the fuel lines. This can cause a blockage that can lead to engine rollback or failure to respond to a throttle increase.

And you need engine power during a normal approach to reduce your descent rate. If you're already descending and your engines don't respond, the only way to slow down is to change the plane's attitude (i.e., pull up and crash land tail first).
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 06 2013 20:34 GMT
#31
Yeah I woke up to this story on my phone, couldn't believe it. Thank God it didn't seem to be a catastrophic high-altitude, total failure kind of crash, and that most of the people there seem to be okay.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
July 06 2013 20:50 GMT
#32
Wow. I was just flying yesterday... This is awful
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
July 06 2013 20:55 GMT
#33
On July 07 2013 05:50 autoexec wrote:
Wow. I was just flying yesterday... This is awful


imagine seeing it happening while waiting for your own flight...
really hope there arent many injuries, curious how it went wrong, it didnt even reach the landing strip did it?
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 06 2013 20:59 GMT
#34
Wow that is way crazy. I feel like this is way rare. If it is a pilot"s issue, or just a plane malufunction, either way, goodluck to all who were aboard it.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 06 2013 21:01 GMT
#35
no deaths so we have a bunch of lucky ones here ^^
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
July 06 2013 21:05 GMT
#36
Plane crashes always have the potential to be devastating. Sounds like we got lucky here thankfully.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
July 06 2013 21:08 GMT
#37
On July 07 2013 06:01 CoR wrote:
no deaths so we have a bunch of lucky ones here ^^


2 are confirmed dead according to my local news.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
July 06 2013 21:10 GMT
#38
http://soberbuildengineer-com.s3.amazonaws.com/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

audio from controller and the flight crew.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
July 06 2013 21:11 GMT
#39
On July 07 2013 04:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
Looking at pictures so far, looks like most of the passengers are ok.
But bothers me is how incredibly shoddy the plane looks. Sure, it might have passed inspection but it looks incredibly shaky to me.

Well I mean... Planes don't usually look great after a crash landing?
Wahaha
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 21:28:14
July 06 2013 21:27 GMT
#40
On July 07 2013 06:10 tuho12345 wrote:
http://soberbuildengineer-com.s3.amazonaws.com/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

audio from controller and the flight crew.

Also here (ATC chatter on KSFO Tower Frequency):



Sounds like the tower controller did a great job as the emergency was declared.
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