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Craton
United States17254 Posts
On July 07 2013 06:27 Proseat wrote: Also here (ATC chatter on KSFO Tower Frequency): Sounds like the tower controller did a great job as the emergency was declared. If this is what the audio normally sounds like, I don't know how anyone makes anything out. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
To the people talking about them having to fly soon, don't you feel it is a little absurd? The time conicidence is absolutely irrelevant. If something, you should feer better seeing that emergenncy procedures are being followed. Flying is still amazingly safe. Of course, this is going to be interesting to hear the analysis of causes, but that is gonna takes weeks. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
SoCal Fire and EMS @SoCalEMSFire 7m #SFO Newest Numbers: 2 Fatalities 61 Injured. (~15-20 Critical, remaining moderate/minor) 240 AMA/Un-injured. 2:29 PM - 6 Jul 13 · Details USA Today has pictures up showing the ripped off tail section and landing gear: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/07/06/1373142255000-AP-San-Francisco-Airliner-Crash2-1307061626_4_3_rx513_c680x510.jpg?6c3c24a06b2ec04d15c066f5e9a76a10a837ffd4) ![[image loading]](http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/07/06/1373142850004-XXX-Asiana-Airlines-Flight-214-Crash-APS-320-1307061641_4_3_rx513_c680x510.jpg?6c3c24a06b2ec04d15c066f5e9a76a10a837ffd4) | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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L0L
United States176 Posts
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mostevil
United Kingdom611 Posts
On July 07 2013 06:35 opisska wrote: This is why you should pay attention to the information about emergnecy exits in the plane (they are basically useful only in such a situation - botched, but fairly reasonable landing which invariably leads to fire, but the fuselage is moreorless intact). The reports on injuries seem still conflicting, but overall it seems like the evacuation worked well and that is important to note regarding safety. To the people talking about them having to fly soon, don't you feel it is a little absurd? The time conicidence is absolutely irrelevant. If something, you should feer better seeing that emergenncy procedures are being followed. Flying is still amazingly safe. Of course, this is going to be interesting to hear the analysis of causes, but that is gonna takes weeks. Botched may be premature assessment. Sounds like he'd radio and emergency before he came in, could be he didn't have power to reach the runway and clipped the seawall. It may well be that he did a good job in the circumstances, wait for the facts to in. | ||
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tuestresfat
2555 Posts
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Craton
United States17254 Posts
On July 07 2013 04:58 NeoIllusions wrote: Looking at pictures so far, looks like most of the passengers are ok. But bothers me is how incredibly shoddy the plane looks. Sure, it might have passed inspection but it looks incredibly shaky to me. So you expect a plane that has crashed and caught on fire to look factory fresh? | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 07 2013 06:52 Craton wrote: So you expect a plane that has crashed and caught on fire to look factory fresh? Yes, exactly Craton. Entirely what I meant. Edit: being sarcastic here with Craton. | ||
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
On July 07 2013 06:52 Craton wrote: So you expect a plane that has crashed and caught on fire to look factory fresh? I agree. I think most of the parts that look... Shoddy, are the relative unimportant ones. I think the fuselage where all the people are chilling at is fine. Of course the tail and landing gear got a little bit jacked up, but no people are usually hiding on up there. | ||
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Ig
United States417 Posts
On July 07 2013 06:53 NeoIllusions wrote: Yes, exactly Craton. Entirely what I meant. Care to explain why you say it looked shoddy then? | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
Will have to hold off on any praise for the pilots, depending on what the FDR and CVR show and the NTSB investigation. Still, as long as the reporting holds up that there were no fatalities, it's pretty damn good for everyone that coped with the sudden emergency situation, and helped others that may not have coped as well. Also stands as a bit of a testament to modern airliner construction that everyone was able to get off the plane. The plane looks like a total hull loss, but the emergency response teams were pretty quick judging by the state of the cabin, lack of complete burn down. Hopes and prayers for anyone that was injured in the landing, and everyone on the plane because I have no doubt they're all pretty shaken by it. Also recommend the avherald.com as Simon is a fairly reputable and conscientious reporting agent and has a good track record in reporting aviation incidents. | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
Aside from being glad that he wasn't on it, it's also lucky that his flight was before and not after the crash... SFO is shut down now. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On July 07 2013 06:56 Ig wrote: Care to explain why you say it looked shoddy then? yes please. if he's going to bring it up then the least he could do is direct us to the pictures that lead to his reasoning because the ones I see look like any normal aircraft to me. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
Illustrated map from NowThis News: ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOhgqWpCUAAzDha.png:large) Also heli shot: ![[image loading]](http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3670/9223473725_42fe4a19df_z.jpg) | ||
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Ig
United States417 Posts
On July 07 2013 07:13 Terranist wrote: yes please. if he's going to bring it up then the least he could do is direct us to the pictures that lead to his reasoning because the ones I see look like any normal aircraft to me. Not sure if sarcasm or accounting for damage from crash. | ||
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ilmeeni
Afghanistan72 Posts
I know that it's not uncommon to land a bit short as that will make the taxiing to the terminal faster. I really hope they pilots weren't doing it in this case. | ||
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Kamais Ookin
Canada591 Posts
On July 07 2013 06:56 Ig wrote: Can see the sarcasm from a mile away, calm down.Care to explain why you say it looked shoddy then? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On July 07 2013 06:32 Craton wrote: If this is what the audio normally sounds like, I don't know how anyone makes anything out. You get used to it pretty easily, just need to train your ear. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On July 07 2013 07:22 ilmeeni wrote: Seems like a pilot error - it's nigh impossible to hit the seawall with auto-land engaged. I know that it's not uncommon to land a bit short as that will make the taxiing to the terminal faster. I really hope they pilots weren't doing it in this case. There is a rumor that the pilot had called in an issue before landing - perhaps we should all refrain from jumping to conclusions and wait for the facts? | ||
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