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On September 09 2020 23:00 Oukka wrote: Regarding this Internal Markets bill, still. What's been the NI response to the parts that march over the devolved powers? I know both the Scottish and Welsh FMs have condemned it pretty strongly as a grab of devolved powers, but I've yet to hear from the NI assembly. Is it split along the usual unionist/nationalist lines or is there wider spread discomfort at the thought of London being able to walk over Stormont?
Of course it's split down the usual lines. Unionists hate the Withdrawal Agreement because it leads to a sea border between GB and NI. Don't know what they think about London having more power, but I imagine they see anything as better than having the sea border.
From article: Nancy Pelosi said there was "no chance" of a UK-US trade deal getting through the US Congress if the UK violated international agreements, undermining the Good Friday Agreement.
Biden: Any trade deal between the U.S. and U.K. must be contingent upon respect for the Agreement and preventing the return of a hard border. Period.
Completely shocking that the world is not ok with the UK breaking international treaties they signed less then a year earlier. Just because they feel like it. /s
On September 17 2020 17:53 Gorsameth wrote: Completely shocking that the world is not ok with the UK breaking international treaties they signed less then a year earlier. Just because they feel like it. /s
Evil bullies everywhere. Just as the UK threw off the shackles of the EU overlords, now they are getting bullied again! But they will stand up and rise. Nobody will keep them down. BoJo will lead them to glory. /s
But hey, if Bojo manages to fuck it up quick enough, maybe he can get some favors from his best buddy Trump. And Trump surely doesn't care if this is in his rights or not.
On September 17 2020 17:53 Gorsameth wrote: Completely shocking that the world is not ok with the UK breaking international treaties they signed less then a year earlier. Just because they feel like it. /s
On September 17 2020 17:53 Gorsameth wrote: Completely shocking that the world is not ok with the UK breaking international treaties they signed less then a year earlier. Just because they feel like it. /s
Or, more concretely, making a national law which breaks the EU withdrawal agreement, because they suddenly noticed that that agreement might lead to a border in the irish sea.
It was clear Starmer's labour was going to be less to the left than Corbyn's. I wonder how close to the Blair years he's willing to go. Substance-wise we won't know what this will actually mean until labour gets a run at the government again. Family values and patriotism could be okay if it doesn't translate to sexism/homophobia/transphobia/racism/xenophobia... i.e. what it means in the US.
From purely election mathematical point of view this is the right move. In the de-facto two party system that the UK is (thanks fptp!) When your competitor move away from the centre you move with them.
I sure am glad we left the EU in order to be at the mercy of the tumultuous political tides in the countries we want to make EPIC TRADE DEALS with.
In an odd sort of way I think corona virus has been really fortunate for bojo; it's taken all focus away from the Brexit nonsense and provided a perfect thing to point to for any negative consequences of it.
On September 30 2020 20:03 iamthedave wrote: I sure am glad we left the EU in order to be at the mercy of the tumultuous political tides in the countries we want to make EPIC TRADE DEALS with.
In an odd sort of way I think corona virus has been really fortunate for bojo; it's taken all focus away from the Brexit nonsense and provided a perfect thing to point to for any negative consequences of it.
Here's the latest tory anti-education ploy. Don't let the children even hear that anti-capitalism exists, call it extremism. Some people say that politicians interfering in education to protect the system` is a bad conspiracy theory.... I'm not so sure.
“Political impartiality in our education system is an incredibly important principle to uphold,” he said in response to a question posed by a party member.
“It’s not just a matter of opinion, it’s also a matter of law. It’s important we give pupils the context in order for them to be able to learn and form their own opinions. They should not be influenced in an improper way.”
Williamson’s comments followed the publication last month of guidance for school leaders involved in setting the relationships, sex and health education (RSHE) curriculum, which categorised anti-capitalism as an “extreme political stance” and equated it with opposition to freedom of speech, antisemitism and endorsement of illegal activity.
And yet when I was at school the opposition party was explicitly committed to socialized ownership of the means of production. This isn’t a fringe view, it’s been a central part of postwar politics forever.
They’re trying to rewrite history to enshrine the Thatcher-Blair consensus as the only acceptable political philosophy.
I’m rather unsure how you can impart a grounded and balanced understanding of the world that is well-informed without looking at socialism as socialists themselves articulate it. Granted I assume that’s the entire point of these guidelines.
On October 06 2020 04:37 KwarK wrote: And yet when I was at school the opposition party was explicitly committed to socialized ownership of the means of production. This isn’t a fringe view, it’s been a central part of postwar politics forever.
They’re trying to rewrite history to enshrine the Thatcher-Blair consensus as the only acceptable political philosophy.
I was talking to people on another forum today who are labour voters who already subscribe to this version of reality. Its scary.
On October 06 2020 05:01 WombaT wrote: I’m rather unsure how you can impart a grounded and balanced understanding of the world that is well-informed without looking at socialism as socialists themselves articulate it. Granted I assume that’s the entire point of these guidelines.
Please explain to me how any of this has anything to do with Relationship, Sex and Health in the first place, which is what the bill is supposed to be about, right?
So kids, use a condom and don't be socialist, hmkay?
On October 06 2020 05:01 WombaT wrote: I’m rather unsure how you can impart a grounded and balanced understanding of the world that is well-informed without looking at socialism as socialists themselves articulate it. Granted I assume that’s the entire point of these guidelines.
Please explain to me how any of this has anything to do with Relationship, Sex and Health in the first place, which is what the bill is supposed to be about, right?
So kids, use a condom and don't be socialist, hmkay?
If you look at the legislation it doesn't only ban anti-capitalist material, but all material published by groups who are anti-capitalist. This could have a dramatic effect on relationships, sex and health, given the propensity of groups who believe in sexual and gender equality to be anti-capitalist.
On October 06 2020 19:42 Zealos wrote: legal is what the government decides, sadly
more and more I think the concept of an independent judiciary to be a joke of a pipe dream, sadly
I think it's more of a case of the UK not having a constitution. That would never fly in a country with a consititution and a supreme court able to strike down BS like that.
EPT
