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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
October 14 2014 12:20 GMT
#1061
MPs have voted in favour of recognising Palestine as a state alongside Israel.

The House of Commons backed the move "as a contribution to securing a negotiated two-state solution" - although less than half of MPs took part in the vote.

The result, 274 to 12, is symbolic but could have international implications.

Ministers abstained on the vote, on a motion put forward by Labour MP Grahame Morris and amended by former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw.

Middle East Minister Tobias Ellwood said the UK reserved the right to recognise Palestine when it was "appropriate for the peace process".

In 2012 the UN General Assembly voted to upgrade the Palestinians' status to that of "non-member observer state". Some 41 nations - including the UK - abstained.

Current UK government policy is that it "reserves the right to recognise a Palestinian state bilaterally at the moment of our choosing and when it can best help bring about peace".


source


Israel have responded by saying that its premature, and that Palestine should only be recognized when Israel decides that they should.

Israel has warned against sending a "troubling message", after UK MPs voted to recognise Palestinian statehood.

The House of Commons backed a motion by 274 votes to 12, although the decision will not decide government policy.

But Israel's government said the vote could undermine the chances of peace by letting Palestinian leaders think they could evade the "tough choices" needed.

However, the Labour MP bringing the motion said recognising statehood could be a "bridge" to negotiations.

Current UK government policy is that it "reserves the right to recognise a Palestinian state bilaterally at the moment of our choosing and when it can best help bring about peace".


source
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-16 01:44:05
October 16 2014 01:39 GMT
#1062
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 05 2014 23:14 GMT
#1063
Okay then:

LONDON, England — The mantra that we need to train the forces of friendly governments and, for that matter, rebel groups, may have become a staple of every 21st century Western intervention in the Middle East, but sometimes things just go wrong. Really wrong.

A new generation of the Libyan army was supposed to be trained in the West as part of international efforts to rebuild the country after the ouster of Muammar Gaddafi. Hand-picked recruits were invited to rural England for basic infantry and junior command training.

On Tuesday, however, the British Ministry of Defense announced that all 300 trainees would be sent home early after a string of sexual assaults were perpetrated against the residents of Cambridgeshire, culminating in the alleged gang rape of a young man.

Britain had pledged to train 2,000 Libyan recruits in total, but that commitment is now under review.

Libyan Army cadets stationed at Bassingbourn barracks are alleged to have left the military camp on raids into the nearby university town of Cambridge, where a spate of sexual attacks were reported on the cobbled streets around the ancient college buildings.

Two of the recruits have admitted to two sexual assaults and a bicycle theft in Market Square right at the center of the old town. They also pleaded guilty to threatening a police office. Another cadet, aged 18, has been charged with three sexual assaults.

In total, police have investigated reports of 11 sexual assaults in central Cambridge within nine days. The most serious of those took place on Christ’s Piece, which is between Jesus and Emmanuel colleges, on Sunday October 26. A man in his early 20s allegedly was approached by two Libyan soldiers who subjected him to a serious sexual assault. Moktar Ali Saad Mahmoud, 33, and Ibrahim Abogutila, 22, were charged with rape on Monday.


Source
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 16:12:39
November 08 2014 16:10 GMT
#1064
I've just spoken to a UKIP guy. This party is absolutely outrageous, their views may only be compared to Hitler's. He's sent me a leaflet where it is said that business should be able to discriminate in favour of young British workers. It's just... nazi.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 27 2015 06:14 GMT
#1065
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
March 01 2015 15:48 GMT
#1066
source

One of Chancellor George Osborne’s senior advisers on economic policy has been captured on video smoking crack cocaine in a drugs den.

Prof Douglas McWilliams, who last year ­estimated we would all be £165 a year better off by the election, is seen inhaling it through a glass tube at a flat in North London.

The executive chairman of influential City think-tank the Centre for Economic and Business Research then slumps dazed on a sofa after repeatedly smoking on the makeshift crack pipe involving a miniature Martell Cognac bottle.

Red-faced and slurring his speech, he later told the dealer he had “too much” and that he had spent the day on a binge.

Two rocks of the deadly drug can clearly been seen on a table beside the dazed professor. The grainy footage, seen by the Sunday Mirror, will heap embarrassment on the Chancellor and raise serious ­questions about his choice of adviser.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
March 01 2015 19:45 GMT
#1067
On March 02 2015 00:48 Jockmcplop wrote:
source

Show nested quote +
One of Chancellor George Osborne’s senior advisers on economic policy has been captured on video smoking crack cocaine in a drugs den.

Prof Douglas McWilliams, who last year ­estimated we would all be £165 a year better off by the election, is seen inhaling it through a glass tube at a flat in North London.

The executive chairman of influential City think-tank the Centre for Economic and Business Research then slumps dazed on a sofa after repeatedly smoking on the makeshift crack pipe involving a miniature Martell Cognac bottle.

Red-faced and slurring his speech, he later told the dealer he had “too much” and that he had spent the day on a binge.

Two rocks of the deadly drug can clearly been seen on a table beside the dazed professor. The grainy footage, seen by the Sunday Mirror, will heap embarrassment on the Chancellor and raise serious ­questions about his choice of adviser.

Do we have a British Rob Ford on our hands?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
March 01 2015 20:12 GMT
#1068
On March 02 2015 04:45 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 00:48 Jockmcplop wrote:
source

One of Chancellor George Osborne’s senior advisers on economic policy has been captured on video smoking crack cocaine in a drugs den.

Prof Douglas McWilliams, who last year ­estimated we would all be £165 a year better off by the election, is seen inhaling it through a glass tube at a flat in North London.

The executive chairman of influential City think-tank the Centre for Economic and Business Research then slumps dazed on a sofa after repeatedly smoking on the makeshift crack pipe involving a miniature Martell Cognac bottle.

Red-faced and slurring his speech, he later told the dealer he had “too much” and that he had spent the day on a binge.

Two rocks of the deadly drug can clearly been seen on a table beside the dazed professor. The grainy footage, seen by the Sunday Mirror, will heap embarrassment on the Chancellor and raise serious ­questions about his choice of adviser.

Do we have a British Rob Ford on our hands?

To be fair, its fairly obvious from our economic policy that it was devised by a rich bloke on crack.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
March 26 2015 22:04 GMT
#1069
source

A government bid to change the rules on electing Commons speakers - seen by Labour as an attempt to oust John Bercow - has been defeated.
Mr Bercow was almost overcome by emotion as he announced the result of the vote - 228 to 202.
He had earlier told MPs: "I'm not going anywhere."
William Hague wanted a secret ballot to decide the Speaker's future after the election but Labour and some Tory MPs said it was a "grubby" plot.
They accused the Commons leader of springing the motion on MPs in the final hours of the current Parliament, before it breaks up for the general election.
Among the No votes were 23 Conservative MPs and 10 Liberal Democrats.
'Right thing'
In extraordinary scenes, MPs hurled abuse at Mr Hague for allegedly conspiring with Prime Minister David Cameron to oust Mr Bercow, who is unpopular with much of the Tory leadership.
Moving the motion, Mr Hague, who is standing down as an MP, said there was a long tradition of secret ballots in Britain to decide powerful positions.
He said: "I think a secret ballot frees members of this House completely from pressure from their parties or from the chair.
"I think that is the right thing in principle to do."
In a tearful speech, Tory MP Charles Walker, chairman of the Commons procedure committee, claimed he had been "played for a fool" by ministers over the issue.


Filthy politics at it worst.
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 20:55:41
April 27 2015 20:54 GMT
#1070
http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/uk-general-election-predictions/

If thats the result I think there will be a 2nd election pretty quickly, unless the Lib Dems decide to work with the SNP and Labour.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 13:11:36
April 28 2015 11:24 GMT
#1071
On April 28 2015 05:54 Zaros wrote:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/uk-general-election-predictions/

If thats the result I think there will be a 2nd election pretty quickly, unless the Lib Dems decide to work with the SNP and Labour.

Quite a regional divide there

And only 2 seats for UKIP? They've been seriously over hyped lol.
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 28 2015 13:17 GMT
#1072
nobody was predicting more than half a dozen seats for ukip at the very best lol

538's predictions have declined massively in quality since nate got both the competitive states right in 2012 fwiw
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Tumes
Profile Joined December 2014
United Kingdom3 Posts
May 01 2015 01:52 GMT
#1073
BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE
safe
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-05 13:04:01
May 05 2015 13:01 GMT
#1074
Only 2 days left, polls show Conservatives will be the biggest party but probably can't govern because of the SNP taking the whole of Scotland and backing Labour. Then again the polls could be wrong. There is quite a split between online vs phone polling , phone polling has anything up to a 5% conservative lead, while online says they are tied or labour just ahead.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-05 21:20:42
May 05 2015 21:20 GMT
#1075
On May 01 2015 10:52 Tumes wrote:
BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE

Do you include the commonwealth countries in "british"?
e: not necessarily "you"
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 06 2015 04:18 GMT
#1076
Kind of odd that even if Cameron wins he is still in a lose/lose situation. No matter happens he becomes a subservient to the other coalition party? What if they want anew PM, the Conservatives would have to agree no?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 06 2015 06:42 GMT
#1077
On May 05 2015 22:01 Zaros wrote:
Only 2 days left, polls show Conservatives will be the biggest party but probably can't govern because of the SNP taking the whole of Scotland and backing Labour. Then again the polls could be wrong. There is quite a split between online vs phone polling , phone polling has anything up to a 5% conservative lead, while online says they are tied or labour just ahead.

Do you have links for the phone polling stats? I'm interested to see if thats the case
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 08:34:29
May 06 2015 08:32 GMT
#1078
On May 06 2015 13:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Kind of odd that even if Cameron wins he is still in a lose/lose situation. No matter happens he becomes a subservient to the other coalition party? What if they want anew PM, the Conservatives would have to agree no?


I don't see how he becomes subservient, if anything I think he will have a stronger hand, the Lib Dems have nearly been wiped out and have suggested they don't want to work with the SNP or labour which only leaves them the conservatives, all of this hinges on Nick Clegg though as its him and his people at the top of the Party that want to work with the conservatives the rest of the party prefers Labour, it's possible that Clegg could lose his seat to labour but some polling showed that conservatives voters are saving him at the moment by switching their votes.

As for the phone polling vs Online there is this: http://may2015.com/featured/election-2015-the-tories-are-3-points-ahead-in-phone-polls-but-tied-with-labour-in-online-polls/

http://www.comres.co.uk/look-past-polls-of-polls-the-conservatives-have-been-leading-all-year/
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 06 2015 09:59 GMT
#1079
Tomorrow is D Day then, hope everyone has posted their postal votes already and if not are going to the polling stations

Another important election i feel this one, if we don't get a majority government i dont think we have a very bright future at all.

I'd rather have a double election than another coalition.

Also is there any labour support here?
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 06 2015 10:03 GMT
#1080
Having a choice between Cameron and New Labour, good luck guys, I thought you were better off than us, I'm not sure any more I'd probably vote Green if I were a britton.
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