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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44354 Posts
May 21 2019 16:26 GMT
#10421
On May 21 2019 13:46 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 05:20 Artisreal wrote:
I can't imagine a newly formed party polling 20+ percent.
then I remember that we have the Afd...

You must have poor memory.
Macrons party was new.
Don’t care what people think of Farage but throwing milkshakes at him and other politicians you disagree with isn’t on.

I’m fine with milkshakes to be fair. I’d draw the line at bricks though. It’s a good way to remind politicians that they’re reviled by the masses.

I was also fine when Simon Cowell got egged on tv. These people spend their lives thinking they’re better than the common man, it’s good for them to be humiliated from time to time. Keeps them honest.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10006 Posts
May 21 2019 16:39 GMT
#10422
On May 21 2019 13:46 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 05:20 Artisreal wrote:
I can't imagine a newly formed party polling 20+ percent.
then I remember that we have the Afd...

You must have poor memory.
Macrons party was new.
Don’t care what people think of Farage but throwing milkshakes at him and other politicians you disagree with isn’t on.


Wait what??

Throwing milkshakes is too far but driving an entire country into economic and political chaos is fine.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 21 2019 18:42 GMT
#10423
economic and political chaos is an opinion throwing a milkshake is a fact.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-21 18:55:05
May 21 2019 18:54 GMT
#10424
In other news May's deal is going to suffer an even worse defeat by her offering a customs union and referendum she has alienated most of the conservatives who switched to support last vote. Boris and Raab who voted for it last time are now against and wouldnt be suprised to see at least one cabinet member walk out, otherwise they really are never going to do well in a leadership contest.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
May 21 2019 19:49 GMT
#10425
On May 22 2019 03:54 Zaros wrote:
In other news May's deal is going to suffer an even worse defeat by her offering a customs union and referendum she has alienated most of the conservatives who switched to support last vote. Boris and Raab who voted for it last time are now against and wouldnt be suprised to see at least one cabinet member walk out, otherwise they really are never going to do well in a leadership contest.

That she would lose Boris and Raab was a given, the question is if she can attract enough of the opposition.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 21 2019 19:58 GMT
#10426
On May 22 2019 04:49 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 03:54 Zaros wrote:
In other news May's deal is going to suffer an even worse defeat by her offering a customs union and referendum she has alienated most of the conservatives who switched to support last vote. Boris and Raab who voted for it last time are now against and wouldnt be suprised to see at least one cabinet member walk out, otherwise they really are never going to do well in a leadership contest.

That she would lose Boris and Raab was a given, the question is if she can attract enough of the opposition.


Corbyn and People's Vote Campaign have already said no.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
May 21 2019 20:06 GMT
#10427
On May 22 2019 04:58 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:49 Longshank wrote:
On May 22 2019 03:54 Zaros wrote:
In other news May's deal is going to suffer an even worse defeat by her offering a customs union and referendum she has alienated most of the conservatives who switched to support last vote. Boris and Raab who voted for it last time are now against and wouldnt be suprised to see at least one cabinet member walk out, otherwise they really are never going to do well in a leadership contest.

That she would lose Boris and Raab was a given, the question is if she can attract enough of the opposition.


Corbyn and People's Vote Campaign have already said no.

Yes I'm not saying it's likely to pass, it definitely won't, but that she's losing brexiteer support isn't an indication of it failing. They're not her targets. She knew she would lose them.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
May 21 2019 20:37 GMT
#10428
On May 22 2019 03:42 Zaros wrote:
economic and political chaos is an opinion throwing a milkshake is a fact.


So is the murder of Jo Cox and the planned murder of Jack Renshaw, and all death threats recorded by politicians who don't agree with right wing politics.

Yeah, sure looks like the political landscape is all in order in the UK. No chaos whatsoever. It's not like the entire world laughs about UK politics. And it's also not like business, in fact every fucking business in the UK made clear that economic chaos will happen, and already happened.

You're right. It's not you who're delusional, it's the entire rest of the world.
On track to MA1950A.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44354 Posts
May 21 2019 21:05 GMT
#10429
The chaos isn’t an opinion, it’s fact. We had no clue what was going to happen down to the final days. We had hospitals stockpiling emergency supplies. We had ferry replacement services with no ferries. We had mayhem on the maybe hard maybe not Irish border.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4456 Posts
May 21 2019 21:43 GMT
#10430
On May 22 2019 01:26 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 13:46 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On May 21 2019 05:20 Artisreal wrote:
I can't imagine a newly formed party polling 20+ percent.
then I remember that we have the Afd...

You must have poor memory.
Macrons party was new.
Don’t care what people think of Farage but throwing milkshakes at him and other politicians you disagree with isn’t on.

I’m fine with milkshakes to be fair. I’d draw the line at bricks though. It’s a good way to remind politicians that they’re reviled by the masses.

I was also fine when Simon Cowell got egged on tv. These people spend their lives thinking they’re better than the common man, it’s good for them to be humiliated from time to time. Keeps them honest.

Better a milkshake than a cup of acid but thats where i see this heading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22638 Posts
May 21 2019 21:50 GMT
#10431
On May 22 2019 06:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:26 KwarK wrote:
On May 21 2019 13:46 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On May 21 2019 05:20 Artisreal wrote:
I can't imagine a newly formed party polling 20+ percent.
then I remember that we have the Afd...

You must have poor memory.
Macrons party was new.
Don’t care what people think of Farage but throwing milkshakes at him and other politicians you disagree with isn’t on.

I’m fine with milkshakes to be fair. I’d draw the line at bricks though. It’s a good way to remind politicians that they’re reviled by the masses.

I was also fine when Simon Cowell got egged on tv. These people spend their lives thinking they’re better than the common man, it’s good for them to be humiliated from time to time. Keeps them honest.

Better a milkshake than a cup of acid but thats where i see this heading.
People have been pie'ing politicians for decades without issue, this is just pointless scaremongering because 'your' side tends to get the worst of it, for good reason.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44354 Posts
May 21 2019 21:52 GMT
#10432
On May 22 2019 06:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:26 KwarK wrote:
On May 21 2019 13:46 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On May 21 2019 05:20 Artisreal wrote:
I can't imagine a newly formed party polling 20+ percent.
then I remember that we have the Afd...

You must have poor memory.
Macrons party was new.
Don’t care what people think of Farage but throwing milkshakes at him and other politicians you disagree with isn’t on.

I’m fine with milkshakes to be fair. I’d draw the line at bricks though. It’s a good way to remind politicians that they’re reviled by the masses.

I was also fine when Simon Cowell got egged on tv. These people spend their lives thinking they’re better than the common man, it’s good for them to be humiliated from time to time. Keeps them honest.

Better a milkshake than a cup of acid but thats where i see this heading.

If this slippery slope is correct then the priority should be to stop fast food restaurants serving acid to customers, rather than worrying about the small number of customers who choose to toss their McAcid at politicians. Hundreds of millions of milkshakes are served each year. If they become acid the impact on politicians is the least of our worries. Think of the children for God’s sake.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12016 Posts
May 21 2019 21:56 GMT
#10433
On May 22 2019 06:52 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 06:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:26 KwarK wrote:
On May 21 2019 13:46 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On May 21 2019 05:20 Artisreal wrote:
I can't imagine a newly formed party polling 20+ percent.
then I remember that we have the Afd...

You must have poor memory.
Macrons party was new.
Don’t care what people think of Farage but throwing milkshakes at him and other politicians you disagree with isn’t on.

I’m fine with milkshakes to be fair. I’d draw the line at bricks though. It’s a good way to remind politicians that they’re reviled by the masses.

I was also fine when Simon Cowell got egged on tv. These people spend their lives thinking they’re better than the common man, it’s good for them to be humiliated from time to time. Keeps them honest.

Better a milkshake than a cup of acid but thats where i see this heading.

If this slippery slope is correct then the priority should be to stop fast food restaurants serving acid to customers, rather than worrying about the small number of customers who choose to toss their McAcid at politicians. Hundreds of millions of milkshakes are served each year. If they become acid the impact on politicians is the least of our worries. Think of the children for God’s sake.


I wonder by how much, or if at all, the health effect of a fast food chain milkshake changes if it transmutes into acid.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
May 21 2019 23:55 GMT
#10434
On May 22 2019 06:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:26 KwarK wrote:
On May 21 2019 13:46 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On May 21 2019 05:20 Artisreal wrote:
I can't imagine a newly formed party polling 20+ percent.
then I remember that we have the Afd...

You must have poor memory.
Macrons party was new.
Don’t care what people think of Farage but throwing milkshakes at him and other politicians you disagree with isn’t on.

I’m fine with milkshakes to be fair. I’d draw the line at bricks though. It’s a good way to remind politicians that they’re reviled by the masses.

I was also fine when Simon Cowell got egged on tv. These people spend their lives thinking they’re better than the common man, it’s good for them to be humiliated from time to time. Keeps them honest.

Better a milkshake than a cup of acid but thats where i see this heading.


And on that day Nigel Farage will have finally reaped what he's sewn all these years. UK Politics has always had its ups and downs, but Nigel Farage especially and those around him have done everything possible to drag it down to America's level. He works in hysteria and deceit, pissing off the left and outraging the right entirely for his own gain.

Fuck him. Cup of acid's too good for Nigel Farage. He's deliberately, aggressively and mendaciously sought to destroy our country's future.

Of course it almost certainly won't happen. But I won't shed a single tear for the man if it does. For my nation, yes. But not for the virus making it sick.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4456 Posts
May 22 2019 01:34 GMT
#10435
On May 22 2019 08:55 iamthedave wrote:

Fuck him. Cup of acid's too good for Nigel Farage. He's deliberately, aggressively and mendaciously sought to destroy our country's future.

Of course it almost certainly won't happen. But I won't shed a single tear for the man if it does. For my nation, yes. But not for the virus making it sick.

Uh huh.
I’ll let you in on a secret.The virus is the elites disdain for ordinary working class people.Labour is no longer a working class party it is a party of metropolitan London elites.60% of labour electorates voted leave.

And if you’d learnt anything from Trump you will recognise that calling them racist, sexist, xenophobic, throwing milkshakes and deplatforming them doesn’t bring them back to your side.It makes them see themselves as the victims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 22 2019 02:28 GMT
#10436
On May 22 2019 10:34 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 08:55 iamthedave wrote:

Fuck him. Cup of acid's too good for Nigel Farage. He's deliberately, aggressively and mendaciously sought to destroy our country's future.

Of course it almost certainly won't happen. But I won't shed a single tear for the man if it does. For my nation, yes. But not for the virus making it sick.

Uh huh.
I’ll let you in on a secret.The virus is the elites disdain for ordinary working class people.Labour is no longer a working class party it is a party of metropolitan London elites.60% of labour electorates voted leave.

And if you’d learnt anything from Trump you will recognise that calling them racist, sexist, xenophobic, throwing milkshakes and deplatforming them doesn’t bring them back to your side.It makes them see themselves as the victims.


It’s like you think people are dumb enough to believe this shit. Our side doesn’t need to “bring people back”. Shit like Brexit and Trump won because of fucking apathy and a misguided notion that elections and referendums didn’t matter. We can blame parties like Labor and the democrats for being uninspiring piles of trash, but no one is trying to “win back” these xenophobic fucks. That type of thinking is what has lead to these weak ass left leaning parties.

Give milkshake man a mic and I bet he can get more people to the polls than most of these weak tea politicians.
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Rasalased
Profile Joined May 2019
89 Posts
May 22 2019 02:53 GMT
#10437
On May 22 2019 05:06 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:58 Zaros wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:49 Longshank wrote:
On May 22 2019 03:54 Zaros wrote:
In other news May's deal is going to suffer an even worse defeat by her offering a customs union and referendum she has alienated most of the conservatives who switched to support last vote. Boris and Raab who voted for it last time are now against and wouldnt be suprised to see at least one cabinet member walk out, otherwise they really are never going to do well in a leadership contest.

That she would lose Boris and Raab was a given, the question is if she can attract enough of the opposition.


Corbyn and People's Vote Campaign have already said no.

Yes I'm not saying it's likely to pass, it definitely won't, but that she's losing brexiteer support isn't an indication of it failing. They're not her targets. She knew she would lose them.


You call them 'Brexiteers' but if they consistently vote against (a reality-based) Brexit, they aren't really Brexiteers, are they?

That both Raab and Johnson did vote once for May's deal only shows what hypocrites they are. They yelled for so long that May's deal was worse than remaining. And then they still voted for May's deal, only to oppose it once more.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10006 Posts
May 22 2019 06:05 GMT
#10438
On May 22 2019 11:53 Rasalased wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 05:06 Longshank wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:58 Zaros wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:49 Longshank wrote:
On May 22 2019 03:54 Zaros wrote:
In other news May's deal is going to suffer an even worse defeat by her offering a customs union and referendum she has alienated most of the conservatives who switched to support last vote. Boris and Raab who voted for it last time are now against and wouldnt be suprised to see at least one cabinet member walk out, otherwise they really are never going to do well in a leadership contest.

That she would lose Boris and Raab was a given, the question is if she can attract enough of the opposition.


Corbyn and People's Vote Campaign have already said no.

Yes I'm not saying it's likely to pass, it definitely won't, but that she's losing brexiteer support isn't an indication of it failing. They're not her targets. She knew she would lose them.


You call them 'Brexiteers' but if they consistently vote against (a reality-based) Brexit, they aren't really Brexiteers, are they?

That both Raab and Johnson did vote once for May's deal only shows what hypocrites they are. They yelled for so long that May's deal was worse than remaining. And then they still voted for May's deal, only to oppose it once more.


They've seen the light at the end of the tunnel now.
Keep saying no and May will have to leave, then Johnson can do whatever the fuck he wants with brexit.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
May 22 2019 06:11 GMT
#10439
On May 22 2019 15:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 11:53 Rasalased wrote:
On May 22 2019 05:06 Longshank wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:58 Zaros wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:49 Longshank wrote:
On May 22 2019 03:54 Zaros wrote:
In other news May's deal is going to suffer an even worse defeat by her offering a customs union and referendum she has alienated most of the conservatives who switched to support last vote. Boris and Raab who voted for it last time are now against and wouldnt be suprised to see at least one cabinet member walk out, otherwise they really are never going to do well in a leadership contest.

That she would lose Boris and Raab was a given, the question is if she can attract enough of the opposition.


Corbyn and People's Vote Campaign have already said no.

Yes I'm not saying it's likely to pass, it definitely won't, but that she's losing brexiteer support isn't an indication of it failing. They're not her targets. She knew she would lose them.


You call them 'Brexiteers' but if they consistently vote against (a reality-based) Brexit, they aren't really Brexiteers, are they?

That both Raab and Johnson did vote once for May's deal only shows what hypocrites they are. They yelled for so long that May's deal was worse than remaining. And then they still voted for May's deal, only to oppose it once more.


They've seen the light at the end of the tunnel now.
Keep saying no and May will have to leave, then Johnson can do whatever the fuck he wants with brexit.

Can he though? Doesn't whatever he decides on have to pass through Parliament, which leaves the UK in pretty much the exact same position?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10006 Posts
May 22 2019 06:14 GMT
#10440
On May 22 2019 15:11 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 15:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 22 2019 11:53 Rasalased wrote:
On May 22 2019 05:06 Longshank wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:58 Zaros wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:49 Longshank wrote:
On May 22 2019 03:54 Zaros wrote:
In other news May's deal is going to suffer an even worse defeat by her offering a customs union and referendum she has alienated most of the conservatives who switched to support last vote. Boris and Raab who voted for it last time are now against and wouldnt be suprised to see at least one cabinet member walk out, otherwise they really are never going to do well in a leadership contest.

That she would lose Boris and Raab was a given, the question is if she can attract enough of the opposition.


Corbyn and People's Vote Campaign have already said no.

Yes I'm not saying it's likely to pass, it definitely won't, but that she's losing brexiteer support isn't an indication of it failing. They're not her targets. She knew she would lose them.


You call them 'Brexiteers' but if they consistently vote against (a reality-based) Brexit, they aren't really Brexiteers, are they?

That both Raab and Johnson did vote once for May's deal only shows what hypocrites they are. They yelled for so long that May's deal was worse than remaining. And then they still voted for May's deal, only to oppose it once more.


They've seen the light at the end of the tunnel now.
Keep saying no and May will have to leave, then Johnson can do whatever the fuck he wants with brexit.

Can he though? Doesn't whatever he decides on have to pass through Parliament, which leaves the UK in pretty much the exact same position?


Technically yeah, you're right of course, but I get the feeling there would be some sneaky plan of some kind to force a hard brexit through. When the objective is different the methods you can use are different. I'm being a bit vague on purpose because obviously I have no idea what will actually happen, its just a feeling.
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