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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43976 Posts
August 09 2017 15:46 GMT
#7521
On August 10 2017 00:33 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 00:10 Danglars wrote:
On August 09 2017 23:02 Unentschieden wrote:
Democracy isn´t supposed to by the dictatorship of 50% + 1.

Actually, that's the intended benefit. Out of competing systems that more easily degenerate to oligarchy and dictatorship. Then you add constitutional to it to try and not concentrate power in the mob or the plurality of their representatives, and write one good enough to lay some prudence to not call an election every eleven days when you disagree with the last thing that happened.

I don't remember exactly which philosopher it was - one of Plato, Socrates, or Aristotle - who believed monarchy was best and democracy was kind of shitty, but that a degenerate democracy was the least bad degenerate form of government. Might not be a bad way to think of it.

Mandatory KwarK shitpost reminding you that whenever one of those three talks about democracy what they're referring to is a broader oligarchy where the likes of them are allowed to be one of the oligarchs.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2017 15:49 GMT
#7522
I second this shitpost from Kwark. The discussions about democracy during the time of Socrates and the discussion during the Enlightenment couldn’t be farther apart.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
August 09 2017 18:39 GMT
#7523
Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40879427

Those prosecuted were from the Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iraqi, Iranian and Turkish communities and mainly British-born, with most living in the West End of Newcastle.


So diverse. I wonder what they have in common?


User was temp banned for this post.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
August 09 2017 18:41 GMT
#7524
On August 10 2017 03:39 bardtown wrote:
Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40879427

Show nested quote +
Those prosecuted were from the Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iraqi, Iranian and Turkish communities and mainly British-born, with most living in the West End of Newcastle.


So diverse. I wonder what they have in common?



Just read about this, scary how its always the same old culprits. Now we wait for the excuses.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11829 Posts
August 09 2017 18:41 GMT
#7525
On August 10 2017 03:39 bardtown wrote:
Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40879427

Show nested quote +
Those prosecuted were from the Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iraqi, Iranian and Turkish communities and mainly British-born, with most living in the West End of Newcastle.


So diverse. I wonder what they have in common?


Uhhh, uhhh!

I know it!

They are all evil brown people!

That is what you were getting at, right?
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
August 09 2017 18:44 GMT
#7526
On August 10 2017 03:41 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 03:39 bardtown wrote:
Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40879427

Those prosecuted were from the Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iraqi, Iranian and Turkish communities and mainly British-born, with most living in the West End of Newcastle.


So diverse. I wonder what they have in common?


Uhhh, uhhh!

I know it!

They are all evil brown people!

That is what you were getting at, right?

No...
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 18:50:40
August 09 2017 18:49 GMT
#7527
He even posted.
They're all british born. That's the source of their evil ways.

Right?
e:
Or Newcastle is a strange place.

idk
e2:
nvm I got it, everyone from a former colony is a horrible person
passive quaranstream fan
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
August 09 2017 18:49 GMT
#7528
The denial is strong already.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43976 Posts
August 09 2017 19:10 GMT
#7529
I think bardtown thinks India is a predominantly Muslim nation.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11829 Posts
August 09 2017 19:12 GMT
#7530
No, it cannot be that, bardtown wouldn't be that uninformed. He is british after all.
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 19:42:20
August 09 2017 19:40 GMT
#7531
KwarK doesn't realise India has a significant Muslim minority, apparently. Sure, it's possible all these Muslim men decided to invite their Sikh or Hindu friend over to rape some kids with them, but I'm gonna just take a wild guess and say that that's probably not the case.

On August 10 2017 04:12 Simberto wrote:
No, it cannot be that, bardtown wouldn't be that uninformed. He is british after all.

What are these cringeworthy comments? Fix your inferiority complex.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 19:45:19
August 09 2017 19:43 GMT
#7532
So Muslims and Catholic priests have a lot in common?
On August 10 2017 03:49 bardtown wrote:
The denial is strong already.

Don’t be so hard on yourself, you will be able to see past skin and xenophobia some day.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43976 Posts
August 09 2017 19:49 GMT
#7533
On August 10 2017 04:40 bardtown wrote:
KwarK doesn't realise India has a significant Muslim minority, apparently. Sure, it's possible all these Muslim men decided to invite their Sikh or Hindu friend over to rape some kids with them, but I'm gonna just take a wild guess and say that that's probably not the case.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 04:12 Simberto wrote:
No, it cannot be that, bardtown wouldn't be that uninformed. He is british after all.

What are these cringeworthy comments? Fix your inferiority complex.

That's why I said predominantly. I'm aware that it has a Muslim minority. But you were clearly suggesting that all the nations on the list were Muslim nations and that's simply false.

London has a significant Muslim minority but you wouldn't say that the thing that Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iran, Turkey, and London have in common is Islam. Just admit you misspoke.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
August 09 2017 19:51 GMT
#7534
On August 10 2017 04:49 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 04:40 bardtown wrote:
KwarK doesn't realise India has a significant Muslim minority, apparently. Sure, it's possible all these Muslim men decided to invite their Sikh or Hindu friend over to rape some kids with them, but I'm gonna just take a wild guess and say that that's probably not the case.

On August 10 2017 04:12 Simberto wrote:
No, it cannot be that, bardtown wouldn't be that uninformed. He is british after all.

What are these cringeworthy comments? Fix your inferiority complex.

That's why I said predominantly. I'm aware that it has a Muslim minority. But you were clearly suggesting that all the nations on the list were Muslim nations and that's simply false.

London has a significant Muslim minority but you wouldn't say that the thing that Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iran, Turkey, and London have in common is Islam. Just admit you misspoke.

I was not suggesting that. I was asking what the individuals had in common, not the countries. Admit you misinterpreted me.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2017 19:55 GMT
#7535
They were all just charged with the same crime?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11829 Posts
August 09 2017 20:04 GMT
#7536
On August 10 2017 04:51 bardtown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 04:49 KwarK wrote:
On August 10 2017 04:40 bardtown wrote:
KwarK doesn't realise India has a significant Muslim minority, apparently. Sure, it's possible all these Muslim men decided to invite their Sikh or Hindu friend over to rape some kids with them, but I'm gonna just take a wild guess and say that that's probably not the case.

On August 10 2017 04:12 Simberto wrote:
No, it cannot be that, bardtown wouldn't be that uninformed. He is british after all.

What are these cringeworthy comments? Fix your inferiority complex.

That's why I said predominantly. I'm aware that it has a Muslim minority. But you were clearly suggesting that all the nations on the list were Muslim nations and that's simply false.

London has a significant Muslim minority but you wouldn't say that the thing that Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iran, Turkey, and London have in common is Islam. Just admit you misspoke.

I was not suggesting that. I was asking what the individuals had in common, not the countries. Admit you misinterpreted me.


The problem here is that you are doing that incredibly annoying thing where you don't actually say what you want to say, but make other people guess it. And then you can choose the best out of those answers, or if people rightfully point out that all of them are silly, you just say that that isn't what you wanted to say.

How about instead of doing that, make your point. Don't let other people guess it. Then we can start discussing your point, instead of doing this silly dance.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9297 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 20:18:37
August 09 2017 20:18 GMT
#7537
On August 10 2017 04:43 Plansix wrote:
So Muslims and Catholic priests have a lot in common?
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 03:49 bardtown wrote:
The denial is strong already.

Don’t be so hard on yourself, you will be able to see past skin and xenophobia some day.


Do you not see anything wrong with mocking bardtown's hostility to one religious group by insulting another? Asking because I'm simply curious, I'm not very religious and I don't feel offended by your post.
You're now breathing manually
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
August 09 2017 20:19 GMT
#7538
On August 10 2017 05:18 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 04:43 Plansix wrote:
So Muslims and Catholic priests have a lot in common?
On August 10 2017 03:49 bardtown wrote:
The denial is strong already.

Don’t be so hard on yourself, you will be able to see past skin and xenophobia some day.


Do you not see anything wrong with mocking bardtown's hostility to one religious group by insulting another? Asking because I'm simply curious, I'm not very religious and I don't feel offended by your post.



Its plansix, aslong as its white people hes mocking its fine, cant critize black or brown people though, god forbid.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 09 2017 20:21 GMT
#7539
On August 10 2017 05:18 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 04:43 Plansix wrote:
So Muslims and Catholic priests have a lot in common?
On August 10 2017 03:49 bardtown wrote:
The denial is strong already.

Don’t be so hard on yourself, you will be able to see past skin and xenophobia some day.


Do you not see anything wrong with mocking bardtown's hostility to one religious group by insulting another? Asking because I'm simply curious, I'm not very religious and I don't feel offended by your post.

It's kinda been proven time and again that catholic institutions in several countries have been abusing boys for years and years.
passive quaranstream fan
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 20:24:06
August 09 2017 20:21 GMT
#7540
On August 10 2017 05:18 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 04:43 Plansix wrote:
So Muslims and Catholic priests have a lot in common?
On August 10 2017 03:49 bardtown wrote:
The denial is strong already.

Don’t be so hard on yourself, you will be able to see past skin and xenophobia some day.


Do you not see anything wrong with mocking bardtown's hostility to one religious group by insulting another? Asking because I'm simply curious, I'm not very religious and I don't feel offended by your post.

What if I was fully aware of that and I was point out how blanket statements about entire religions is a bad look?

On August 10 2017 05:19 Reaps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 05:18 Sent. wrote:
On August 10 2017 04:43 Plansix wrote:
So Muslims and Catholic priests have a lot in common?
On August 10 2017 03:49 bardtown wrote:
The denial is strong already.

Don’t be so hard on yourself, you will be able to see past skin and xenophobia some day.


Do you not see anything wrong with mocking bardtown's hostility to one religious group by insulting another? Asking because I'm simply curious, I'm not very religious and I don't feel offended by your post.



Its plansix, aslong as its white people hes mocking its fine, cant critize black or brown people though, god forbid.

That is because I am white and I’m comfortable talking shit about my own people. I am not comfortable about talking shit about other cultures or races to the same degree(except Canada. I’ll always take shots as Canada)
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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