EPTOn July 04 2016 18:22 Zaros wrote:
This is not the last we've heard of him by a long stretch.
UKIP splinter party anyone? Conservative splint?!!
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
This is not the last we've heard of him by a long stretch. UKIP splinter party anyone? Conservative splint?!! | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4416 Posts
UK added net 500,000 people last year. Cut that means a cut in demand for housing which means lower house prices.Which is whats needed. Unless you think a doubling of London prices since 2009 is sustainable? This is the "economic boom" remainders want to keep continuing? Total bubble economy. As for the minimum wage i have already addressed that earlier in the thread with a BoE report that showed migration has caused wage deflation especially in lower skilled work.Again it is a supply/demand issue. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
On July 04 2016 20:59 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: How doesn't it fix the problems? UK added net 500,000 people last year. Cut that means a cut in demand for housing which means lower house prices.Which is whats needed. Unless you think a doubling of London prices since 2009 is sustainable? This is the "economic boom" remainders want to keep continuing? Total bubble economy. As for the minimum wage i have already addressed that earlier in the thread with a BoE report that showed migration has caused wage deflation especially in lower skilled work.Again it is a supply/demand issue. U.K. construction unexpectedly shrank at the fastest pace since 2009 in June as the impending vote on Britain’s European Union membership stymied residential building. A Purchasing Managers’ Index slid to 46 from 51.2 a month earlier, Markit Economics said in London on Monday. Economists in a Bloomberg News survey had predicted a reading of 50.7, above the 50 level that divides expansion from contraction. The report adds to evidence that the June 23 referendum was hindering the economy even before the shock vote to leave. Markit said it collected the construction survey data between June 13 and June 29, with just over 80 percent of the responses submitted before the result was announced on June 24. “Construction firms are at the sharp end of domestic economic uncertainty and jolts to investor sentiment, so trading conditions were always going to be challenging in the run-up to the EU referendum,” said Tim Moore, an economist at Markit. “However, the extent and speed of the downturn in the face of political and economic uncertainty is a clear warning flag for the wider post-Brexit economic outlook.” The pound erased gains against the dollar after the data were released and was trading at $1.3257 as of 9:49 a.m. in London, down 0.1 percent since Friday. Not sure how the decreasing supply of housing fits in your narrative for more affordable housing? | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9207 Posts
On July 04 2016 20:59 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: How doesn't it fix the problems? UK added net 500,000 people last year. Are you playing numberwang? It was 336,000. 180,000 of which from within the EU. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34931725 | ||
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
On July 04 2016 21:25 Sent. wrote: What else was Farage supposed to do? Hes not part of the government, there is no way the UK will send him to negotiate leave conditions and it would be very hard for him to get a seat in British parliament. He achieved what he genuinely (unlike Johnson) wanted and his "mission" is finished. Retirement was his only real option. He's quit UKIP three times. He's not gone. So shouldn't be forgotten. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8081 Posts
Funny to see Johnson and himself resigning immediately after throwing their country into such a disaster. They could at least have the balls and the consistency to clear up the mess they've done. The next leaders of the UK won't have a fun job and certainly one that won't be done by just exciting people's biggotry and uttering one lie after another. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10884 Posts
On July 04 2016 20:44 Gorsameth wrote: And how exactly will leaving the EU fix the housing market and minimum wage. The more important issue is that Londo OVERWHELMINGLY voted Remain. Despite the skyrocketting estate prices (which happen in every booming city… Be it Frankfurt, New York, Zürich, Vienna or wherever), all these cities would have, most likely, voted„Remain“ too. Estate prices are a huge problem in all these cities but the EU is not to blame for this, its real eastate giants splitting up the land and the cities/states/countries selling their only true assets while giving up way too much control over their own growth. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
On July 04 2016 21:25 Sent. wrote: What else was Farage supposed to do? Hes not part of the government, there is no way the UK will send him to negotiate leave conditions and it would be very hard for him to get a seat in British parliament. He achieved what he genuinely (unlike Johnson) wanted and his "mission" is finished. Retirement was his only real option. If iam not mistaken, he is not leaving his charge as a MEP, his intention is to somehow be in that table. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22372 Posts
On July 04 2016 23:55 Godwrath wrote: If iam not mistaken, he is not leaving his charge as a MEP, his intention is to somehow be in that table. He will remain in the European Parliament yes, he is just stopping down as leader of UKIP. Which some might see as avoiding responsibility and leaving someone else to figure out the mess. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
On July 05 2016 00:11 Gorsameth wrote: He will remain in the European Parliament yes, he is just stopping down as leader of UKIP. Which some might see as avoiding responsibility and leaving someone else to figure out the mess. About Boris i can understand, but Farage ? What could he do in the first place ? Get whipped on Trafalgar's square ? Not saying i have any sympathy for the guy, just that i don't understand what exactly people expect him to do about the Brexit right now rather than what he can do as a MEP. And probably stepping down is even better when searching for a compromise as he was extremely poralizing from what i am reading. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22372 Posts
On July 05 2016 00:26 Godwrath wrote: About Boris i can understand, but Farage ? What could he do in the first place ? Get whipped on Trafalgar's square ? Not saying i have any sympathy for the guy, just that i don't understand what exactly people expect him to do about the Brexit right now rather than what he can do as a MEP. And probably stepping down is even better when searching for a compromise as he was extremely poralizing from what i am reading. His governmental influence might be minimal(non-existent) but he is a big part of the face of the Brexit campaign. It feels like him dodging the spotlights now that the movement has turned into a clusterfuck. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9847 Posts
Didn't he have the lowest attendance of anyone for his £76,000/year? Just another way of scamming the public. What scum. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Edit: Has anyone noticed a pattern? David Cameron resigns, Boris Johnson gives up on becoming PM, Nigel Farage resigns. Corbyn is pushed to resign. I think the only person left is Michael Gove? No one really won some kind of promotion from this referendum, but we have yet to see if Michael Gove wins to say for sure. On July 04 2016 21:25 Sent. wrote: What else was Farage supposed to do? Hes not part of the government, there is no way the UK will send him to negotiate leave conditions and it would be very hard for him to get a seat in British parliament. He achieved what he genuinely (unlike Johnson) wanted and his "mission" is finished. Retirement was his only real option. I'm not sure if you're trying to be perfectly objective or you're turning your back on the thousands of Polish people who got insulted because of Farage and the whole Brexit campaign. Do you sympathise with Farage or is it just political analysis? Edit #2: I don't think now was the perfect time for Farage to quit. He could have waited to see how Brexit is implemented (if at all), then pretend to be whiter than white if it's not how he thought it should be, which may bring more support for his party. I still hate the guy though. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On July 05 2016 02:44 Lonyo wrote: I wonder if his wife has UK citizenship or if he will apply for German citizenship and go live with her. They seem to have kids and they're married. She should have UK citizenship unless she turned it down. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
On July 05 2016 01:55 Shield wrote: I'm not sure if I should be happy that Nigel Farage left. It's like someone poops on your carpet, you kick them out, but the poop is still on your carpet. Edit: Has anyone noticed a pattern? David Cameron resigns, Boris Johnson gives up on becoming PM, Nigel Farage resigns. Corbyn is pushed to resign. I think the only person left is Michael Gove? No one really won some kind of promotion from this referendum, but we have yet to see if Michael Gove wins to say for sure. I'm not sure if you're trying to be perfectly objective or you're turning your back on the thousands of Polish people who got insulted because of Farage and the whole Brexit campaign. Do you sympathise with Farage or is it just political analysis? Edit #2: I don't think now was the perfect time for Farage to quit. He could have waited to see how Brexit is implemented (if at all), then pretend to be whiter than white if it's not how he thought it should be, which may bring more support for his party. I still hate the guy though. I'm trying to be objective, I don't want to burn Farage at the stake because we have different political beliefs. 52% of Britons voted Leave and I think their will has to be respected even if it's against the interests of my countrymen. | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
On July 05 2016 03:13 Sent. wrote: I'm trying to be objective, I don't want to burn Farage at the stake because we have different political beliefs. 52% of Britons voted Leave and I think their will has to be respected even if it's against the interests of my countrymen. It would be a mistake to think that Farage representedthat majority. In my view, he certainly represents a lot of them. But not all. | ||
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