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RoomOfMush
1296 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:34 Reaps wrote: Actually everything is just a guessing game at the moment Except for all the things that already happened. Its not a guessing game that the pound lost a lot of its value. And all the other things that already happened as a direct result. There are many negative effects which are facts and the UK didnt even leave yet. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8081 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France8081 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I don't understand why this is supposed to be ruinous it's not like the EU is going to embargo the UK now. No, it's Britain probably leaving the common market. Do you understand what that is? And if Britain doesn't leave the common market, well then the Brexit is just the most stupid move one could ever think of. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:53 Biff The Understudy wrote: No, it's Britain probably leaving the common market. Do you understand what that is? I don't think he actually knows what the common market/single market is. Or what "import taxes" mean in that regard, soon. edit: they have to leave the common market, everything else is political suicide for whoever leads the negotiations. The EU binds the four freedoms (free movement of wares, people etc) to the single market. Which coincidentally is the main reason for people voting for the brexit. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:48 RoomOfMush wrote: Except for all the things that already happened. Its not a guessing game that the pound lost a lot of its value. And all the other things that already happened as a direct result. There are many negative effects which are facts and the UK didnt even leave yet. The UK won't actually leave the EU for a while. The pound will have dropped long before the UK leaves. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:55 m4ini wrote: I don't think he actually knows what the common market/single market is. Or what "import taxes" mean in that regard, soon. edit: they have to leave the common market, everything else is political suicide for whoever leads the negotiations. The EU binds the four freedoms (free movement of wares, people etc) to the single market. Which coincidentally is the main reason for people voting for the brexit. Really? I thought some of Brexit voters wanted to get rid of muslims, Pakistani, black people, etc. Also, to protest against those dirty people in the government.  | ||
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Simberto
Germany11839 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:57 Shield wrote: Really? I thought some of Brexit voters wanted to get rid of muslims, Pakistani, black people, etc. Also, to protest against those dirty people in the government. Also called "free movement of people" | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8081 Posts
I don't know if that's right. One cannot deny that Britain's attitude has always been questionable at best, and it might well be that Europe can take a new start after the Brexit. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22372 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I don't understand why this is supposed to be ruinous it's not like the EU is going to embargo the UK now. The EU is about free transfer of goods and services. The UK will leave the free service market. Banks will have to pay money to deal with other EU banks. even the tiniest of increases will have large effects considering how many transactions a bank makes. Moving to an EU country will be cheaper then paying the increase from the loss of free market. The entire financial district leaves London over this. How is the UK better off economically at this point? Goods will have to go through customs when moving to the EU, this means time and money. Time and money that is saved when the company instead moves its operations to an EU country. How is the UK better off economically at this point? | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:57 Shield wrote: Really? I thought some of Brexit voters wanted to get rid of muslims, Pakistani, black people, etc. Also, to protest against those dirty people in the government. Most of them do. But on top of that, they want to get rid of polish people etc (as is rather evident, too). European "immigrants" in general. Since they steal all the jobs. All of them. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:58 Simberto wrote: And to clarify. There is absolutely no chance of the UK getting the stuff they want from the market, but not the people. That would be political suicide for the EU negotiators, and i simply can no see how they UK would accomplish such a feat. They would have to be able to blackmail everyone involved in the decision personally. Also called "free movement of people" I know, but I'm mocking some of Brexit voters who thought leaving EU will get rid of non-Europeans. That was just hilarious. I don't know what kind of idiot one must be to come up with this idea. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:52 Biff The Understudy wrote: My sister is installed in the UK. She has lived there for years and has a partner. If the EU citizen lose their rights, she will be deported. I know right wingers usually don't give a damn about people's fate, but on to of being an economic absurdity, the Brexit will break and upset many many families and lives. Do you typically just insult people and change the subject instead of answer their questions? | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8081 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:55 m4ini wrote: I don't think he actually knows what the common market/single market is. Or what "import taxes" mean in that regard, soon. edit: they have to leave the common market, everything else is political suicide for whoever leads the negotiations. The EU binds the four freedoms (free movement of wares, people etc) to the single market. Which coincidentally is the main reason for people voting for the brexit. Looks like it. Someone who doesn't understand why leaving a 350 million single market is more damageable for the country leaving than for the union is of little use in a discussion which is primarily about economics  | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On July 05 2016 07:00 Shield wrote: I know, but I'm mocking some of Brexit voters who thought leaving EU will get rid of non-Europeans. That was just hilarious. I don't know what kind of idiot one must be to come up with this idea. Well.. Considering how blatantly the brexiteers (who now resigned) lied, and even worse, how many people actually believed that bullshit, .. It's really not that surprising. Up to this point there's still people arguing with a figure of weekly 360mil a week for the NHS. Weeks after the referendum, people still haven't gathered the fact that all the big cornerstones of the brexiteers were lies at worst, or grossly exaggerated at best. See the 360mil, the stop of immigration, etc etc. Do you typically just insult people and change the subject instead of answer their questions? There were no questions. You made a statement, people called you out on it. Instead of checking your "facts", you continue asking questions that show that you don't even have a basic idea of how things work here. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
On July 05 2016 06:52 Shield wrote: I guess if the biggest Brexit guy, Nigel Farage, doesn't have the courage to be responsible, then that probably means a lot? You may say he has no power, but I doubt it's up to the government only to lead negotiations. It will be crazy if they don't bring Labour and some of the other parties. That's just a guess though. Do you really think the goverment would give any kind of leadership the UKIP in this if they can help it? We are getting into very naive territory here. The UKIP is repositioning itself into normality and trying to be more moderate specially now it's the best thing they can do , it's obvious that they will try to go for the tories voter base harder than ever, and now they need the moderates, which they can't gain withouth being a party which can offer the illusion of stability. Getting rid of Farage was just the obvious movement after the Brexit. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 05 2016 07:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Do you typically just insult people and change the subject instead of answer their questions? Politics is about real people and real peoples lives being improved or ruined. This is not abstract for some people. Sometimes people are going to say not nice things on the internet because they are upset or have feelings. If you feel you are going to take offense every single time someone does thing, I would recommend avoiding politics as a subject. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8081 Posts
On July 05 2016 07:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Do you typically just insult people and change the subject instead of answer their questions? Just talking from experience. And Teresa May's remarks today and the whole position of the conservative party on the issue kind of comfort me in that opinion. As for not answering questions, I asked you if you knew what a single market is, and you didn't answer. Your comment about embargo makes me think you don't understand the issue, but maybe I'm wrong? | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On July 05 2016 07:03 Plansix wrote: Politics is about real people and real peoples lives being improved or ruined. This is not abstract for some people. Sometimes people are going to say not nice things on the internet because they are upset or have feelings. If you feel you are going to take offense every single time someone does thing, I would recommend avoiding politics as a subject. Your constant backseat modding is annoying. Every other post I see from you is backseat modding. | ||
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