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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 27 2016 15:24 GMT
#3421
On June 28 2016 00:14 KwarK wrote:
Boris doesn't seem to think we're leaving the single market. Looks like we're keeping the regulations and the institutions. But we're still totally leaving the EU boys.

I read that too. I was amazed.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 15:29:46
June 27 2016 15:27 GMT
#3422
On June 28 2016 00:14 KwarK wrote:
Boris doesn't seem to think we're leaving the single market. Looks like we're keeping the regulations and the institutions. But we're still totally leaving the EU boys.

Don't forget the main thing - you will keep the payments and the immigration :-)
Plus you have to keep the regulations, but not the institutions, as now, you will not be able to influence the regulations :-)
What a nice BREXIT! :-)

At least, you have earned one good thing - THE INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
June 27 2016 15:28 GMT
#3423
honestly like

Uk politics are such a mess, and I think that can be best demonstrated by asking if there is anyone in the country that is currently pleased with the state of affairs. There seems to be no plan or anything in place, and I feel like that country is in limbo.

Ignoring whether I want to be part of the EU or not, I want 2 viable parties, of which we currently only have one in England, and I want the process of leaving the EU to begin, now that that is the path we have chosen.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
June 27 2016 15:29 GMT
#3424
The whole EU campaign for Boris was to create a vacancy in the PM job, now he's got that he doesn't have a clue what to do, and he hasn't even bothered showing up in the houses of commons for the PMQs that are currently taking place
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43990 Posts
June 27 2016 15:30 GMT
#3425
On June 28 2016 00:28 Zealos wrote:
honestly like

Uk politics are such a mess, and I think that can be best demonstrated by asking if there is anyone in the country that is currently pleased with the state of affairs. There seems to be no plan or anything in place, and I feel like that country is in limbo.

Ignoring whether I want to be part of the EU or not, I want 2 viable parties, of which we currently only have one in England, and I want the process of leaving the EU to begin, now that that is the path we have chosen.

The SNP are watching the English majority disqualify themselves from being allowed to make decisions for Scotland.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6274 Posts
June 27 2016 15:34 GMT
#3426
Well according to him the pound is fine as well.

"The pound remains higher than it was in 2013 and 2014," the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip said in the article, as he made the case that risks associated with Brexit have been "wildly overdone."

Johnson did not clarify against which currency he was measuring, and as the pound weakened further in this morning's trading his assertion left many scratching their heads. The pound is much stronger, since 2013, against the Ukranian hryvnia, Kazahkstan's tenge, and Mozambique's metical—yet that may owe more to localized problems (war, devaluation, and a commodity rout) than reflect any kind of confidence in the U.K. economy.
Crucially, Johnson's assertion is also true against the dollar—but the dollars of Namibia, Jamaica, and Suriname rather than the usual yardstick (the world's most-traded currency), the dollar of the United States.
Against the U.S. currency, the sterling was, by 9:50 a.m. in London, at 1.3359, set for its lowest closing level in more than 30 years.

www.bloomberg.com
What a guy.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 15:42:31
June 27 2016 15:41 GMT
#3427
Never understood how politicians can get away with openly lying all the time. Do we really need more people to literally kill them before anything changes?

I'd be able to understand the leave vote a bit more if there was less racist bigotry and anything greater than total incompetence from any of the main parties.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
June 27 2016 15:45 GMT
#3428
On June 28 2016 00:14 KwarK wrote:
Boris doesn't seem to think we're leaving the single market. Looks like we're keeping the regulations and the institutions. But we're still totally leaving the EU boys.

Leave the EU only to keep all of its regulations and an open door to EU migrants but lose any ability to influence the rules, brilliant.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 15:50:24
June 27 2016 15:50 GMT
#3429
*Insert puns referencing boring Johnson taking the EU out..*

Cant believe I forgot about this..

+ Show Spoiler +
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 27 2016 15:56 GMT
#3430
On June 28 2016 00:50 Rebs wrote:
*Insert puns referencing boring Johnson taking the EU out..*

Cant believe I forgot about this..

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOivzoRc0I8

Wait, do you want to say, this is not a photomontage? :-)
Damned! I think, they elected in Italy one comedian as an MP, but having such a premier is much better! :-)
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
June 27 2016 16:03 GMT
#3431
On June 28 2016 00:14 KwarK wrote:
Boris doesn't seem to think we're leaving the single market. Looks like we're keeping the regulations and the institutions. But we're still totally leaving the EU boys.

Are poeple REALLY suprised by that?
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
June 27 2016 16:18 GMT
#3432
It can't be that stupid. There is more to it. There must be.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 16:26:02
June 27 2016 16:18 GMT
#3433
On June 28 2016 00:50 Rebs wrote:
*Insert puns referencing boring Johnson taking the EU out..*

Cant believe I forgot about this..

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOivzoRc0I8


Ha ha ha that is epic.

Cameron just spoke in parliament. Respect the decision and uk decides when to leave.
Looks like a 2nd vote is off the table,it would have been rather ridiculous anyway.
So now we have 3 months in limbo I guess,time enough to find someone who dares to trigger article 50.
Or is it?

All this nonsense that nay sayers are racist bigots and what not.
That,s a good way to make sure the eu will never criticize and improve itself.
Those people are just as narrow minded and stuck in their vision of the world as the nay sayers.

Against eu?
Oh,then you must be a racist bigot
And not to forget, have low education as well.

lol stereo types.
Not only racist bigots use them.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43990 Posts
June 27 2016 16:30 GMT
#3434
On June 28 2016 01:18 Godwrath wrote:
It can't be that stupid. There is more to it. There must be.

It is this stupid. This is why people do representative democracy, not direct democracy. This is the exact situation they're hoping to avoid. This is the case study people will refer to in the future to show why not to hold referendums on important shit.

In other news RBS and Barclays have suspended trading after stock prices plummeted.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 27 2016 16:40 GMT
#3435
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 27 2016 16:48 GMT
#3436
I’m not from the UK, but all of these sounds deeply unsettling and no fun. Our stock market would implode if that many people resigned from government. Good luck folks, it sounds like its going to be a nightmare for the next year or more.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43990 Posts
June 27 2016 16:51 GMT
#3437
On June 28 2016 01:48 Plansix wrote:
I’m not from the UK, but all of these sounds deeply unsettling and no fun. Our stock market would implode if that many people resigned from government. Good luck folks, it sounds like its going to be a nightmare for the next year or more.

The only government resignation is Cameron's and that's just announced, not actual. This is the shadow cabinet. Completely different.

I can explain how parliamentary government works if you like.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
June 27 2016 16:52 GMT
#3438
On June 28 2016 01:48 Plansix wrote:
I’m not from the UK, but all of these sounds deeply unsettling and no fun. Our stock market would implode if that many people resigned from government. Good luck folks, it sounds like its going to be a nightmare for the next year or more.

Its not the government its the opposition shadow cabinet. They are the just the opposition pretending they have a government aswell from which they criticize those actually in power.

That is why they all resign so easily. The position is mostly meaningless anyway.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 16:58:51
June 27 2016 16:56 GMT
#3439
On June 28 2016 01:52 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 01:48 Plansix wrote:
I’m not from the UK, but all of these sounds deeply unsettling and no fun. Our stock market would implode if that many people resigned from government. Good luck folks, it sounds like its going to be a nightmare for the next year or more.

Its not the government its the opposition shadow cabinet. They are the just the opposition pretending they have a government aswell from which they criticize those actually in power.

That is why they all resign so easily. The position is mostly meaningless anyway.


Not exactly meaningless, they are the official opposition and have to try keep the government to account. They get to speak at the dispatch box responding or asking questions to the government. At the moment the opposition has no official spokes people for large swathes of policy, today Emily Thornberry now shadow foreign secretary had to respond to defence questions because the shadow defence minister wasn't around.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 27 2016 16:57 GMT
#3440
it has a nice ring to it though. Shadow cabinet. Sounds like some secret sect from fiction
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