UK Politics Mega-thread - Page 170

On June 27 2016 08:21 BurningSera wrote:
Even if there are well detailed/prepared plans to follow up, brexit/bremain people will still be angry, and it still take years to happen, and watch how low can £ get and how common people like us will get crushed so hard for god knows how long.

We've got a population on the verge of insanity and no-one to lead them.

On June 27 2016 04:16 RvB wrote:

Russia and Putin really have nothing to do with the refugee crisis. The war in Syria was already going on for years and them coming here would have happened regardless of what Putin did.

On June 27 2016 10:07 pmh wrote:
The more you think about it the less camerons resignation makes sense.
He resigns,so he is relieved of the burden of executing the referendum vote, but then he doesn't leave and stays for at least another 3 months. Basicly freezing the entire process and creating a chaotic situation in which not only no one knows what to do,but also a situation in which no one can do anything. I
Well it does make sense from his perspective off course,and it even succeeded as now the leave campaign gets some of the heat,but this isn,t fair play. Its just stalling long enough and creating enough problems so that Britain wont leave in the end. So much for democracy (though it is the right call off course)
As if people didn't have enough yet of the games being played.
Next time someone promises a referendum where people can vote on something they should tell that they wont execute it if the vote goes one specific way.

“There is a majority of something like 350 in the House of Commons broadly in favour of the European relationship,” he said.

“There is no way you are going to get those people to say black is white and change their minds unless a) they know what the deal is and b) it has been supported either by an election or by another referendum,”

London and Brussels appear headed for stalemate two days before a European Union summit to discuss Britain’s vote to leave.

With Europe’s leaders divided over how to negotiate Brexit and Britain apparently reluctant to initiate formal talks on leaving, an EU source said lawyers had concluded that a member state could not be forced to launch the process.

But a senior EU official stressed that, by the same token, Brussels could refuse overtures for even informal talks before the exit process is officially initiated – a course that prominent Brexit leaders including Boris Johnson want to pursue.

“As long there is no notification, there will not be any negotiations,” the official said. Brussels has given up hope that Britain could be bounced into triggering article 50 – the untested procedure that governs how a member state leaves the bloc – at the summit starting on Tuesday.

The official said the UK was in “a significant crisis” and it would be unrealistic to expect such a move. But he insisted: “We are ready to enter into this process quickly. We are ready to enter into this process as soon as possible.”

The US secretary of state, John Kerry, is due to fly to Brussels and London on Monday for urgent talks. Kerry urged both Britain and the EU to “minimise disruption” by negotiating the divorce responsibly.

David Cameron is due to explain the UK’s position at a dinner at the EU summit on Tuesday night. Cameron will leave after the dinner, taking no part in the talks between leaders of the bloc’s 27 remaining members on Wednesday.

Martin Schulz, the president of the EU parliament, led the call for formal exit talks to be launched as early as Tuesday. “We expect the British government to deliver now,” he told Germany’s Bild am Sonntag. “The summit on Tuesday is the appropriate moment to do so.”

The European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, said talks should start as a matter of urgency. An EU source told the Guardian that Juncker had called Cameron on Friday to say the prime minister should trigger article 50 immediately.

On June 27 2016 08:33 Shield wrote:


Well, you've got to blame the misinformation from the Brexit side. Also, the point of this referendum when you have uninformed or uneducated people who thought leaving EU would mean no more muslims (!!!), no more non-Europeans (!!!) and no more Europeans in the UK. If you think I'm joking and if you have Facebook, go check this album: https://www.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/media_set?set=a.10101369198638985&type=3&pnref=story

It's kind of ironic that the UK was one of the winners against nazis, but some of its people are turning into exactly what they defeated previously.

On June 27 2016 12:20 Rebs wrote:
Not gonna change anyones mind but its kinda cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJX5XHnONTI

On June 27 2016 13:24 Diabolique wrote:
This is a confirmation of what I wrote here a page before:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/26/fightback-against-brexit-on-cards-remain-eu-referendum-heseltine

There is no force in the universe, that could force an MP to vote in the parliament for BREXIT against his belief / conscience. That would be illegal. On the other hand, if they just ignore the referendum, would not be ethical. New elections are the only choice and in them, a strongly pro-European party can win and override BREXIT.

On June 27 2016 16:43 Godwrath wrote:

Yeah, it's lovely that politicians aren't accountable for the shit they say.

The proccess should start as soon as possible. Not only it shows the irresponsability of the leave side, but also the lack of dignity and respect for the democratic proccess from Cameron.