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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9246 Posts
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: If Scotland leaves the UK then they need to find a Stuart to put on the Throne as Scotland can only be ruled by a Scottish monarch. Or maybe scratch all of that medieval bullshit and found a republic. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:47 Dan HH wrote: People like this baffle me https://twitter.com/5_News/status/746333341532598279 Not even in the slightest surprise, that, is english in a nutshell. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
They used to call it Greek tragedy when the fates wrought their revenge on human folly and weakness. But maybe a better term in the case of the folly and weakness of the modern Tory party is European tragedy. For, as a broken David Cameron announced his resignation on Friday morning, one question must have been battering his exhausted brain more than any other. How was it that a modern-minded liberal Conservative leader who long ago told his party to “stop banging on about Europe” if it wanted to get back into power after three successive defeats – and who then delivered two terms in government – has himself been brought down by that same party over that same European question? Cameron himself played the role of tragic hero as he notified the nation of his intention to step down before the autumn. “There can be no doubt about the result,” he said. “The British people have voted to leave the European Union and their will must be respected.” But he added that the tortuous negotiations ahead with the EU would require “strong determined and committed leadership” that he felt he could no longer provide. “The country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction.” And there seemed scant consolation in his laconic summary of what he would rather be remembered for. “I believe we’ve made great steps, with more people in work than ever before in our history, with reforms to welfare and education, increasing people’s life chances, building a bigger and stronger society, keeping our promises to the poorest people in the world and enabling those who love each other to get married whatever their sexuality, but above all restoring Britain’s economic strength.” All of that is likely to be forgotten in the European tumult. The warnings from history could not have been clearer. Party divisions over Europe had been the undoing of both Cameron’s predecessors as Conservative prime minister. Margaret Thatcher’s fall in 1990 was triggered by her increasingly anti-European rhetoric and stance. John Major’s long slide to defeat in 1997 was powered by his inability to prevent poisonous divisions over the Maastricht treaty on European integration. Right from the start of his own rise to the top, Cameron knew the dangers. Source | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:58 Holy_AT wrote: So, guys how long do you think it will take now for the third european civil war to break out again? Decades? The nations need to build armies first. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6322 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:58 Holy_AT wrote: So, guys how long do you think it will take now for the third european civil war to break out again? There won't be war from this generation. We're too soft and too greedy to ever put ourselves in harms way. | ||
KwarK
United States44353 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:58 Holy_AT wrote: So, guys how long do you think it will take now for the third european civil war to break out again? NATO dissolved overnight? | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:47 Dan HH wrote: People like this baffle me https://twitter.com/5_News/status/746333341532598279 They're call idiots. There are far more of them than I realised. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On June 25 2016 01:03 RvB wrote: According to the news on dutch television only 36% is in favour of a referendum in NL. Dunno where the numbeer came from that a majority wants it. Old figure prior to successful UK result, it will be higher now. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
Leave the EU, go back to the Drachma and let your tourism industry thrive again. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On June 25 2016 01:08 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Greece needs to be the next to leave, EU austerity measures have destroyed it's economy. Leave the EU, go back to the Drachma and let your tourism industry thrive again. No chance. What would they live from? They got used to living just from the money, the EU has borrowed them. Nobody will ever pay them back. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
Probably the millennials  | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On June 25 2016 01:08 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Greece needs to be the next to leave, EU austerity measures have destroyed it's economy. Leave the EU, go back to the Drachma and let your tourism industry thrive again. i mean, austerity didnt help and makes sure they have an even harder time to recover, but greece lived way over their limits for years and that ultimately leads do your downfall. dont play with the big boys, you gonna get burned. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6322 Posts
On June 25 2016 01:07 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Old figure prior to successful UK result, it will be higher now. No obviously not. Theyre not dumb. Stop trying to make everythjng fit your narrative. | ||
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Dirtyharry
Germany171 Posts
On June 25 2016 01:15 CorsairHero wrote: https://twitter.com/GoogleTrends/status/746303118820937728 Probably the millennials Oh dear, this is a good reason to prefer parliamentary democracy over the direct democracy. I feel sad today. | ||
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