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Dan HH
Romania9172 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:09 stilt wrote: The liberals and democracy, ahahahahahahah, and you talk about intellectual honestly? Do you even know how to think? I no longer know what the fuck 'liberal' means on the internet, now that even Europeans use it in weird contexts | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:21 ahswtini wrote: this didnt answer my question. my question is, when you invoke article 50, will it still be possible to abort the process to leave the EU Just read article 50 yourself: Link 1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements. 2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament. 3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period. 4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it. A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. 5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49. | ||
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RoomOfMush
1296 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:02 ahswtini wrote: is invoking article 50 a one-way process? does it commit the uk to leaving once it starts? As far as I heard from the press, the other EU countries want the UK to leave as quickly as possible. This is because the big uncertainty is damaging the markets. They want to keep the chaos down so the UK will be forced to get out quickly. On the other hand, if the UK ever wants to get back in they will be forced to go through the same process as all other nations have to go. They are going to be in a situation far worse than what they were in before. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:04 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Yup, their goal is always more power. Doing that of course will increase euroscepticism across member states so they're in a fight against time.Create a unified European superstate with an EU army before anymore individual nation states vote to get out of the EU.Then the Eurocrats can keep their cushy EUR20,000/month jobs w/perks and generous pensions plus they have the most important thing of all.... power! So what's wrong with giving EU more power? I welcome this slow shift, EU never hid the fact they want more power and less power to the countries. It would eventually lead to a unique big country and if the power inside the country is well dispatched locally (I like Landers from Germany and direct votes from Swiss), it's a good thing. Do you believe the Earth will always be divided in countries? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On June 24 2016 23:46 Dan HH wrote: Brits, how likely do you think it is that you'll actually leave the single market? Well....we voted on it.....quite likely I'm guessing. Unless we give something up. I vote Cornwall | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:21 ahswtini wrote: this didnt answer my question. my question is, when you invoke article 50, will it still be possible to abort the process to leave the EU I know, I did not answer it. I am not sure. But as the EU politicians want only one thing = more power, I am sure, if the UK in some moment decided not to leave, they would be happy and let them stay. But look at today, the UK will still discuss, what to do, maybe to initiate it first in one year, after new elections in France, maybe early elections in the UK ... while the EU politicians angrily declare, the negotiations must start ASAP. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
Are you for fucking real ? And 52% of the UK voters believe in what that clown is saying. Either you leave or not. You already fucked the financial markets. Just leave and let us continue as 27. Juncker apealed for the same. Cameron can invoke Article 50 as soon as Tuesday. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4383 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:09 Diabolique wrote: Islam is fine as long as it does not have over 50% of votes in the country. After it reaches 50%, they will change the society to non secular. Exactly what will happen in Belgium, Germany, France, Sweden and others ... in 20-30 years? They will no longer have a national identity and therefore will be easier for the EU superstate to control.Thats what this is all about - control, power, removing national identities to create a superstate. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/carlzimmer/status/746361449065381888 rather misleading. farage was never part of the official vote leave campaign, who put out the £350m number. in fact, he distanced himself from it. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9275 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/carlzimmer/status/746361449065381888 Farage is a leader now? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:27 Hassybaby wrote: Well....we voted on it.....quite likely I'm guessing. Unless we give something up. I vote Cornwall but cornwall is the best part about you guys  Got massive benefits from the EU, voted ooverwhelmingly in favor of Leave and is now asking for a replacement for the EU monies | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Yes, and London. :-) | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:27 Pr0wler wrote: So now all of a sudden - Boris Johnson: no need to immediately trigger Article 50. Are you for fucking real ? And 52% of the UK voters believe in what that clown is saying. Either you leave or not. You already fucked the financial markets. Just leave and let us continue as 27. Juncker apealed for the same. Cameron can invoke Article 50 as soon as Tuesday. Maybe he's just trying to be pragmatic and realize that it's probably in the best interest of the UK to trigger Article 50 not instantly, but when things have cooled down a bit? | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:38 LegalLord wrote: Maybe he's just trying to be pragmatic and realize that it's probably in the best interest of the UK to trigger Article 50 not instantly, but when things have cooled down a bit? Except he wanted to leave as soon as possible during the campaign(well at least half of it, after he decided that he is for Leave)... Typical powerhungry lying clown. | ||
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stilt
France2754 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:25 Dan HH wrote: I no longer know what the fuck 'liberal' means on the internet, now that even Europeans use it in weird contexts French and I would say continental eu context define Liberals as ppl for a total deregulation of the market, and of the financial globalization, privatization of all the state for the most radical and no taxes whatsoever. In USA, for what I know from political history of the nation and my trips, I would say it is more about a "progressive" view of the world represented by Roosevelt and the new Deal which is now totally twisted by the liberals of the french definition. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Merkel said that she's going to meet with leaders from ... iirc at least France and Italy tomorrow, right? | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On June 25 2016 00:36 Diabolique wrote: Whatever happens, it seems, Scotland, Northern Ireland will leave the UK. Yes, and London. :-) Oh I'd vote for that within seconds | ||
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