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On June 25 2016 03:05 RoomOfMush wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 02:59 SK.Testie wrote:
The EU deserves this for having unaccountable civil servants dictating policy.
Merkel deserves this for her absolutely disastrous migrant policy. Germany is dying out. What is "disastrous" about importing human resources from other countries? The leaders dont care about the ancestry of the citizens. What they care about is cheap labourers who do as they are told. If the old population gets lazy, get a new population. This is perhaps the smartest move they could have made. The immigrants will work cheap jobs with comparatively bad conditions and they will be thankful for that. Its the ultimate win for the german society.
It is the annihilation of German society. The leaders didn't lead, they wanted to extract from their citizens, not lead them. Go on television, tell the people honestly that we need low paid low skilled work. Give incentives for marriages and births of your own citizens. Allow even your lowest workers to feel a sense of pride in their work.
Don't import foreign cultures that aren't nearly as developed or based in intellectualism. Compare the great writings and achievements of these cultures instead. Compare their values and general ideologies.
Getting cheap labour is just an excuse to have a slave class and will make a country divided against itself. And the house divided against itself cannot stand.
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On June 25 2016 02:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
The irony is that Scotland wants to now have a second referedum.
My prediction:
They vote to leave the UK then in about 5 years time there's a rise in right wing Scottish nationalism because they're sick of all the English refugees being such a drain on all their public services and finances, so they also vote to leave the EU.
I seriously doubt we'll have another Scottish referendum, and even if we do when people realise that EU governments like Spain will veto us joining AND that we'll have to use the Euro and enter the Schengen area I don't think people will be up for it anyway.
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On June 25 2016 03:05 RoomOfMush wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 02:59 SK.Testie wrote:
The EU deserves this for having unaccountable civil servants dictating policy.
Merkel deserves this for her absolutely disastrous migrant policy. Germany is dying out. What is "disastrous" about importing human resources from other countries? The leaders dont care about the ancestry of the citizens. What they care about is cheap labourers who do as they are told. If the old population gets lazy, get a new population. This is perhaps the smartest move they could have made. The immigrants will work cheap jobs with comparatively bad conditions and they will be thankful for that. Its the ultimate win for the german society.
cheap jobs dont exist in germany, thats the whole problem here. the days where someone could just sell his muscle strength are long gone.
importing people does make sense if they are the right people, not people who are technical illiterate and have the education of an 10 years old at max.
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On June 25 2016 03:05 RoomOfMush wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 02:59 SK.Testie wrote:
The EU deserves this for having unaccountable civil servants dictating policy.
Merkel deserves this for her absolutely disastrous migrant policy. "Native" Germans are dying out. What is "disastrous" about importing human resources from other countries? The leaders dont care about the ancestry of the citizens. What they care about is cheap labourers who do as they are told. If the old population gets lazy, get a new population. This is perhaps the smartest move they could have made. The immigrants will work cheap jobs with comparatively bad conditions and they will be thankful for that. Its the ultimate win for the german society.
Nice to see that people with Marxist / social engineering ideology did not die out with the fall of communism. In what TV did you hear this kind of nonsense? :-)))
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It was the worst decision ever Merkel has taken. There is mass unemployment in southern Europe and instead of incentivising them to come to Germany they take 1-2 Million "refugees" in. A decision that the public in majority does not support.
She should have closed the border immediately and not allow anyone from Hungary or Austria enter Germany. Enforce Dublin rules. The whole story about how Europe would have been destroyed had she acted differently is not true. She wanted these people in Germany for whatever reason. I still don't know why.
About "unaccountable civil servants" - that is completely wrong. They are accountable towards their employer like every civil servant at least in Germany and that is the European Commission for them. I wonder if that is different in Britain.
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On June 25 2016 03:11 hfglgg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 03:05 RoomOfMush wrote:On June 25 2016 02:59 SK.Testie wrote:
The EU deserves this for having unaccountable civil servants dictating policy.
Merkel deserves this for her absolutely disastrous migrant policy. Germany is dying out. What is "disastrous" about importing human resources from other countries? The leaders dont care about the ancestry of the citizens. What they care about is cheap labourers who do as they are told. If the old population gets lazy, get a new population. This is perhaps the smartest move they could have made. The immigrants will work cheap jobs with comparatively bad conditions and they will be thankful for that. Its the ultimate win for the german society. cheap jobs dont exist in germany, thats the whole problem here. the days where someone could just sell his muscle strength are long gone. importing people does make sense if they are the right people, not people who are technical illiterate and have the education of an 10 years old at max.
And primarily, if they wanted people to work in low paid jobs in Germany, they could take millions of refugees from the war in Ukraine. But they are not allowed into Germany. So they escape to our country. What is happening in Germany is something completely different.
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On June 25 2016 03:15 Banaora wrote:
She should have closed the border immediately and not allow anyone from Hungary enter Germany. Enforce Dublin rules. The whole story about how Europe would have been destroyed had she acted differently is not true. She wanted these people in Germany for whatever reason. I still don't know why.
We all know the reason but everyone is affraid to say it. She is building a secret dellumenati pyramid and she need slaves.
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People are acting as though the European Union is over...
...In before the UK votes to rejoin the European Union next year.
It's a huge deal to be sure, but it's not though the door is closed forever and we're going to go back to the Europe of the 19th century.
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and SCO(Shanghai Cooperation Organization) is always looking for new members. Blair can pull a fast one here.
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On June 25 2016 03:31 Azarkon wrote:
People are acting as though the European Union is over...
...In before the UK votes to rejoin the European Union next year.
It's a huge deal to be sure, but it's not though the door is closed forever and we're going to go back to the Europe of the 19th century.
The UK won't have left by this time next year.
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On June 25 2016 03:11 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 02:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
The irony is that Scotland wants to now have a second referedum.
My prediction:
They vote to leave the UK then in about 5 years time there's a rise in right wing Scottish nationalism because they're sick of all the English refugees being such a drain on all their public services and finances, so they also vote to leave the EU. I seriously doubt we'll have another Scottish referendum, and even if we do when people realise that EU governments like Spain will veto us joining AND that we'll have to use the Euro and enter the Schengen area I don't think people will be up for it anyway.
What makes you think that Spain would veto Scotland ? On the contrary.
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On June 25 2016 03:47 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 03:11 jello_biafra wrote:On June 25 2016 02:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
The irony is that Scotland wants to now have a second referedum.
My prediction:
They vote to leave the UK then in about 5 years time there's a rise in right wing Scottish nationalism because they're sick of all the English refugees being such a drain on all their public services and finances, so they also vote to leave the EU. I seriously doubt we'll have another Scottish referendum, and even if we do when people realise that EU governments like Spain will veto us joining AND that we'll have to use the Euro and enter the Schengen area I don't think people will be up for it anyway. What makes you think that Spain would veto Scotland ? On the contrary.
They don't want to fuel Catalonia's secession.
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On June 25 2016 03:35 xM(Z wrote:
and SCO(Shanghai Cooperation Organization) is always looking for new members. Blair can pull a fast one here.
No chance. SCO will not want a country, which leaves the United Nations:
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On June 25 2016 03:49 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 03:47 Godwrath wrote:On June 25 2016 03:11 jello_biafra wrote:On June 25 2016 02:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
The irony is that Scotland wants to now have a second referedum.
My prediction:
They vote to leave the UK then in about 5 years time there's a rise in right wing Scottish nationalism because they're sick of all the English refugees being such a drain on all their public services and finances, so they also vote to leave the EU. I seriously doubt we'll have another Scottish referendum, and even if we do when people realise that EU governments like Spain will veto us joining AND that we'll have to use the Euro and enter the Schengen area I don't think people will be up for it anyway. What makes you think that Spain would veto Scotland ? On the contrary. They don't want to fuel Catalonia's secession.
Yeah, i figured as much, but It wouldn't tho, since UK is not on the EU anymore, so it isn't setting a precedent.
Not to speak that spanish politics are pretty much in the air right now.
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What annoys me is the amount of people who voted Brexit, while complaining about Asians, Indians, etc, to get rid of the mentioned immigrants. Fucking idiots. They're not even European unless they were born in Europe, but even then that's a very, very small amount of people.
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On June 25 2016 03:18 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 03:11 hfglgg wrote:On June 25 2016 03:05 RoomOfMush wrote:On June 25 2016 02:59 SK.Testie wrote:
The EU deserves this for having unaccountable civil servants dictating policy.
Merkel deserves this for her absolutely disastrous migrant policy. Germany is dying out. What is "disastrous" about importing human resources from other countries? The leaders dont care about the ancestry of the citizens. What they care about is cheap labourers who do as they are told. If the old population gets lazy, get a new population. This is perhaps the smartest move they could have made. The immigrants will work cheap jobs with comparatively bad conditions and they will be thankful for that. Its the ultimate win for the german society. cheap jobs dont exist in germany, thats the whole problem here. the days where someone could just sell his muscle strength are long gone. importing people does make sense if they are the right people, not people who are technical illiterate and have the education of an 10 years old at max. And primarily, if they wanted people to work in low paid jobs in Germany, they could take millions of refugees from the war in Ukraine. But they are not allowed into Germany. So they escape to our country. What is happening in Germany is something completely different.
Probably mostly Western Ukrainians, who are economic migrants more than refugees. The Easterners overwhelmingly choose to go to Russia, which is geographically and culturally closer, and not too hard to get citizenship in as an ex-Soviet. Doesn't change your main point, but worth pointing out. They could take more people from the poorer EU countries as well if they're that desperate for labor. I don't think that was the main/only reason for one of the stupidest shitty German power plays in the past few decades.
On June 25 2016 02:28 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 02:24 Reaps wrote:
I normally just ignore the morons shouting words like racism. I cant even imagine how uneducated you need to be to connect "racist" and "xeonophobic" to everyone that voted for Brexit. It's mindboggling. You can debate if it was actually racist/xenophobic or not, but immigration was one of the leading issues that pushed the entire issue. If you can't see how the Brexit debate was linked to ideas of racism/xenophobia, then you're blind.
Or, perhaps, it's linked to the issue of sovereignty and how the UK could really do fuck all about it because it doesn't really control its own borders. But as I understand it, in modern liberal-speak you can just call someone racist and that immediately means they're wrong and furthermore that they're bad people.
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What are the stats on the number of immigrants in the UK vs the number of UK members living across the EU?
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On June 25 2016 02:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 02:28 Stratos_speAr wrote:On June 25 2016 02:24 Reaps wrote:
I normally just ignore the morons shouting words like racism. I cant even imagine how uneducated you need to be to connect "racist" and "xeonophobic" to everyone that voted for Brexit. It's mindboggling. You can debate if it was actually racist/xenophobic or not, but immigration was one of the leading issues that pushed the entire issue. If you can't see how the Brexit debate was linked to ideas of racism/xenophobia, then you're blind. I don't know why you think wanting stronger immigration policies is linked to racism/xenophobia. It seems like you're the blind one to what a slippery slope fallacy that is.
This is the same B.S. that American conservatives pull.
When the only affect of "stronger immigration policies" is to hurt the economy, then it's obvious that the motivation is simply closet xenophobia.
The crap that conservatives in both countries spew about how we need to close borders will do nothing but hurt them both economically. With no legitimate economic or security-related reason to close the borders (no, their ideas wouldn't make either country more secure either), that leaves very few reasons left.
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Fox News is even less reliable than the Onion lol
Kinda shocked the Brits are leaving the EU. Not shocked that every market in the world plunged while the pound plummeted to one of its lowest all time values. After all every financial expert on earth said that's exactly what would happen.
If you wanted a prime example on why Democracies are bad, this is it.
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On June 25 2016 03:05 RoomOfMush wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 02:59 SK.Testie wrote:
The EU deserves this for having unaccountable civil servants dictating policy.
Merkel deserves this for her absolutely disastrous migrant policy. "Native" Germans are dying out. What is "disastrous" about importing human resources from other countries? The leaders dont care about the ancestry of the citizens. What they care about is cheap labourers who do as they are told. If the old population gets lazy, get a new population. This is perhaps the smartest move they could have made. The immigrants will work cheap jobs with comparatively bad conditions and they will be thankful for that. Its the ultimate win for the german society.
Just to make it very clear: your position is the importation of a foreigners to replace natives. Which means you're openly advocating genocide, just by a theoretically slower means.
This is why the European Elites have all but assured civil wars in the future. People don't like being replaced and it's eventually going to enforce tribalism inside countries. Then, the killing starts.
It's always a nice reminder that the European Elites looked at WW1 & 2, which they caused, and drew the lesson that it was someone else's fault. No, it was their own and they're going to inflict that failure on their children & grandchildren.
Hopefully, the next set of European Wars aren't a repeat of the 20th Century for body count.
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