UK Politics Mega-thread - Page 144

On June 25 2016 03:56 Plansix wrote:
What are the stats on the number of immigrants in the UK vs the number of UK members living across the EU?

On June 25 2016 04:04 Taf the Ghost wrote:


Just to make it very clear: your position is the importation of a foreigners to replace natives. Which means you're openly advocating genocide, just by a theoretically slower means.

This is why the European Elites have all but assured civil wars in the future. People don't like being replaced and it's eventually going to enforce tribalism inside countries. Then, the killing starts.

It's always a nice reminder that the European Elites looked at WW1 & 2, which they caused, and drew the lesson that it was someone else's fault. No, it was their own and they're going to inflict that failure on their children & grandchildren.

Hopefully, the next set of European Wars aren't a repeat of the 20th Century for body count.

On June 25 2016 03:56 Plansix wrote:
What are the stats on the number of immigrants in the UK vs the number of UK members living across the EU?

On June 25 2016 04:04 Taf the Ghost wrote:


Just to make it very clear: your position is the importation of a foreigners to replace natives. Which means you're openly advocating genocide, just by a theoretically slower means.

This is why the European Elites have all but assured civil wars in the future. People don't like being replaced and it's eventually going to enforce tribalism inside countries. Then, the killing starts.

It's always a nice reminder that the European Elites looked at WW1 & 2, which they caused, and drew the lesson that it was someone else's fault. No, it was their own and they're going to inflict that failure on their children & grandchildren.

Hopefully, the next set of European Wars aren't a repeat of the 20th Century for body count.

On June 25 2016 04:03 Stratos_speAr wrote:


This is the same B.S. that American conservatives pull.

When the only affect of "stronger immigration policies" is to hurt the economy, then it's obvious that the motivation is simply closet xenophobia.

The crap that conservatives in both countries spew about how we need to close borders will do nothing but hurt them both economically. With no legitimate economic or security-related reason to close the borders (no, their ideas wouldn't make either country more secure either), that leaves very few reasons left.

On June 25 2016 03:15 Banaora wrote:
It was the worst decision ever Merkel has taken. There is mass unemployment in southern Europe and instead of incentivising them to come to Germany they take 1-2 Million "refugees" in. A decision that the public in majority does not support.

She should have closed the border immediately and not allow anyone from Hungary or Austria enter Germany. Enforce Dublin rules. The whole story about how Europe would have been destroyed had she acted differently is not true. She wanted these people in Germany for whatever reason. I still don't know why.

About "unaccountable civil servants" - that is completely wrong. They are accountable towards their employer like every civil servant at least in Germany and that is the European Commission for them. I wonder if that is different in Britain.

It was him, also within his political responsiblity - we don't talk about it much publicly - who opened doors for us

Er war es auch, der uns als Staatssekretär – das verkünden wir nicht groß öffentlich – auch Türen geöffnet hat.

On June 25 2016 04:04 Taf the Ghost wrote:


Just to make it very clear: your position is the importation of a foreigners to replace natives. Which means you're openly advocating genocide, just by a theoretically slower means.

This is why the European Elites have all but assured civil wars in the future. People don't like being replaced and it's eventually going to enforce tribalism inside countries. Then, the killing starts.

It's always a nice reminder that the European Elites looked at WW1 & 2, which they caused, and drew the lesson that it was someone else's fault. No, it was their own and they're going to inflict that failure on their children & grandchildren.

Hopefully, the next set of European Wars aren't a repeat of the 20th Century for body count.

On June 25 2016 04:25 Hryul wrote:

My guess is that it's related to her appearence some weeks before. She was at some public gathering and a girl wanted asylum but got rejected. The girl then started crying and Merkel patted her on the head saying "she did a good job", most likely meaning her performance in presenting her case. Merkel also continued saying that she [M.] doesn't have the power to overturn these kind of decisions and there can't be special cases just b/c someone just met the chancelor.
This got the left media in an uproar, describing her as "cold" and "calculating", also not understanding the needs of the little girl.

Then some weeks later we got the refugees stranded in cruel land that is hungary and it seems like she saw that as her chance to redeem herself.

Furthermore, Peter Altmaier, Kanzleramtschef (= chief of staff of the chancellor/ secretary of state) has some very interesting connections to lobbys like proAsyl, which can be quoted saying

On June 25 2016 04:08 Velitation wrote:

http://m.euronews.com/en/336191/
Looks like 1.2 million British citizens in EU and 3.3 million non-British EU citizens in UK.

On June 25 2016 04:06 Diabolique wrote:

Answers to all these questions are quite nicely presented here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zc_q9p9iYg

On June 25 2016 04:20 Azarkon wrote:
Because the idea that the natives can be "replaced" is based on the assumption that they'd otherwise still be there if not for immigrants, which is false on two levels: 1) no one is killing/removing the natives 2) no one is killing/removing their children. So immigrants cannot "replace" natives. They can only populate the country along side natives & their children, unless natives choose not to have children, in which case who's fault is that?

On June 25 2016 04:38 Plansix wrote:

That seems incorrect. There are 2.2 million in Spain alone.



Yeah, No youtube videos made by weird MRA dudes with a webcam.

On June 25 2016 04:28 OtherWorld wrote:

General threads never disappoint, 5/5 troll would read again

On June 25 2016 04:45 Diabolique wrote:

Sorry, no idea what is MRA. But this guy is not a weird dude with a webcam, he is probably the most successful company / philosopher of the current time, whose internet "lectures" have more than 100 million views.

On June 25 2016 05:01 Plansix wrote:

So is he more or less relevant than Pewdiepie on the subject? On the scale of youtube stars, where does he rank?

On June 25 2016 05:01 Plansix wrote:

So is he more or less relevant than Pewdiepie on the subject? On the scale of youtube stars, where does he rank?

On June 25 2016 04:38 NukeD wrote:

Once again I am going to point you to the example of Kosovo and how immigration can really have severe consequences for a country.

On June 25 2016 05:07 NukeD wrote:

Stop being so obnoxious. Is youtube prohibited from having smart people in it?

On June 25 2016 05:08 Diabolique wrote:

No, he is not comparable with Pewdiepie. He does not deal with games, but with philosophy and politics. Not sure about your age when you ask such a question.