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On May 02 2013 19:44 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 19:35 Goozen wrote:On May 02 2013 19:29 Velr wrote:On May 02 2013 19:21 Goozen wrote:
The only solution is remove anonymity, nothing else will work. The bottom line is that there are 2 kinds of people who obey the law. Those that who do it because its a law, and those who fear the punishment that they will receive from breaking it. As long as this vocal minority isn't forced to receive consequences for their action, they won't change.
And lets face it, it doesn't help that a fair number of women use their sexuality as a tool to gain benefits. Then there are teenagers (the main adience of stuff like this?) which often don't give a shit if there is no imminent/direct punishment... Which there never can and will be for stuff like this. These are not even "easy" cases... I mean, where do you draw the line between harsh criticism or some "vulgar language" and ILLEGAL sexism/harrasment? You would need to have a Judge reading over all this and decide case by case... Oh... And your on the Internet, that means these "offenders" can come from any country in the world, witch basically all have diffrent laws... If she (or anyone else) can't deal with it... Then don't do it. It's not like actors or other TV-Persons have it "better", they normally just don't read immediate chat feedback. Your going out there in front of a camera, you will gate rated, insulted and objectified... Deal with it. I know, thats the problem. There is no way to stop or prevent this, the most that can happen is that moderates remove comments and ban people from youtube. But lets face it, i doubt that will happen also. Saying "if you can't deal with it, don't do it" is the wrong attitude. Using this logic the police can say "don't wear revealing/ provocative clothing if you don't want to get harassed". There is a problem, there simply isnt much we can do, but blaming her is not the correct action. I agree, blaming her is not the correct action. I personally am not blaming her for this happening, although I will blame her for being a hypocrite (see my other posts) and also for dealing with this in the completely wrong way. Ignore the trolls, get someone to ban/censor them for you, or smite them. Going public with this (as if it's a big deal, as if there aren't thousand of other YouTube and Twitch channels that deal with this shit just as much as her) and playing victim will NOT accomplish Anything AT ALL. EDIT: Or she can even realize that these trolls still contribute to her page views, video views, channel views etc and by commenting they push her videos higher up the YouTube ladder. So she's basically able to make more money thanks to this negative attention. Could probably try to exploit that instead of getting all pissy. You realise that women are trained from an early age not to cause a scene when men do things they're not comfortable. That it's just boys being boys and they should just put up with it, from leering to catcalling all the way up to harassment. That if a woman actually says "why don't you just fuck off" then suddenly she's hormonal, overreacting and a bitch. People blame women for rape when they don't fight enough or say "no" loudly enough and they call them attention seekers when they call out harassment. It's a no win situation.
But she didn't say "why don't you just fuck off". She wrote a big, public piece on the issue that did very little to address the issue in any realistic fashion other than "oh this shouldn't be happening". And the way in which she was written, made her very much sound like a victim, instead of a belligerent "fuck you, you're retarded and i ain't puttin up with this shit no moar" kind of rant that someone like TotalBiscuit might have made.
I agree that in real life things are more tricky, but don't forget this is the internet. Giving internet trolls attention, even taking the time to respond to them. let alone write a public article about them, is all they really want. Unless you're smacking them down assertively, it's best to just ignore them. And unlike real life, ignoring internet trolls is far easier, and censoring them is possible (whereas IRL you can't really stop people from voicing their opinion).
So a comparison to real life is not really justified here.
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On May 02 2013 19:49 Nausea wrote:
I like how one in this thread called this "attention seeking blog". Ah the sexism shines through like a bright light.. Can you tell me any blog you can point to that is not in its nature attention seeking. I think if you post anything on the internet you are attention seeking. Wow look at all the news posts on this site, how attention seeking. I liked your attention seeking post btw.
But as a women when she speaks she speaks purely to get male attention because she's overreacting. Literally the response in this topic.
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On May 02 2013 19:48 Goozen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:44 edlover420 wrote:
KwarK you don't get it. Her complaining is the same as it would be if I complained for every time I get flamed after starcraft match by my opponent. It's pointless. Unless you hold her to the different standards because she's a female. Than you are the most sexist person here.
Also you're tone with idontthinksobro was extremely hateful and it's pretty uncalled for. You can't compare sexual harassment, even online to that of getting flamed at the end of a starcraft. The point is, had she been a man, this wouldn't happen, and its not fair that because she wants to do what she enjoys she should be assaulted because of her sex.
Had she been a man, it would still happen, just not to the same extent or with the same choice of words. But the guy would probably not make the whole thing public or make a big deal out of it.
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On May 02 2013 19:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:44 KwarK wrote:On May 02 2013 19:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 19:35 Goozen wrote:On May 02 2013 19:29 Velr wrote:On May 02 2013 19:21 Goozen wrote:
The only solution is remove anonymity, nothing else will work. The bottom line is that there are 2 kinds of people who obey the law. Those that who do it because its a law, and those who fear the punishment that they will receive from breaking it. As long as this vocal minority isn't forced to receive consequences for their action, they won't change.
And lets face it, it doesn't help that a fair number of women use their sexuality as a tool to gain benefits. Then there are teenagers (the main adience of stuff like this?) which often don't give a shit if there is no imminent/direct punishment... Which there never can and will be for stuff like this. These are not even "easy" cases... I mean, where do you draw the line between harsh criticism or some "vulgar language" and ILLEGAL sexism/harrasment? You would need to have a Judge reading over all this and decide case by case... Oh... And your on the Internet, that means these "offenders" can come from any country in the world, witch basically all have diffrent laws... If she (or anyone else) can't deal with it... Then don't do it. It's not like actors or other TV-Persons have it "better", they normally just don't read immediate chat feedback. Your going out there in front of a camera, you will gate rated, insulted and objectified... Deal with it. I know, thats the problem. There is no way to stop or prevent this, the most that can happen is that moderates remove comments and ban people from youtube. But lets face it, i doubt that will happen also. Saying "if you can't deal with it, don't do it" is the wrong attitude. Using this logic the police can say "don't wear revealing/ provocative clothing if you don't want to get harassed". There is a problem, there simply isnt much we can do, but blaming her is not the correct action. I agree, blaming her is not the correct action. I personally am not blaming her for this happening, although I will blame her for being a hypocrite (see my other posts) and also for dealing with this in the completely wrong way. Ignore the trolls, get someone to ban/censor them for you, or smite them. Going public with this (as if it's a big deal, as if there aren't thousand of other YouTube and Twitch channels that deal with this shit just as much as her) and playing victim will NOT accomplish Anything AT ALL. EDIT: Or she can even realize that these trolls still contribute to her page views, video views, channel views etc and by commenting they push her videos higher up the YouTube ladder. So she's basically able to make more money thanks to this negative attention. Could probably try to exploit that instead of getting all pissy. You realise that women are trained from an early age not to cause a scene when men do things they're not comfortable. That it's just boys being boys and they should just put up with it, from leering to catcalling all the way up to harassment. That if a woman actually says "why don't you just fuck off" then suddenly she's hormonal, overreacting and a bitch. People blame women for rape when they don't fight enough or say "no" loudly enough and they call them attention seekers when they call out harassment. It's a no win situation. But she didn't say "why don't you just fuck off". She wrote a big, public piece on the issue that did very little to address the issue in any realistic fashion other than "oh this shouldn't be happening". And the way in which she was written, made her very much sound like a victim, instead of a belligerent "fuck you, you're retarded and i ain't puttin up with this shit no moar" kind of rant that someone like TotalBiscuit might have made. I agree that in real life things are more tricky, but don't forget this is the internet. Giving internet trolls attention, even taking the time to respond to them. let alone write a public article about them, is all they really want. Unless you're smacking them down assertively, it's best to just ignore them. And unlike real life, ignoring internet trolls is far easier, and censoring them is possible (whereas IRL you can't really stop people from voicing their opinion). So a comparison to real life is not really justified here.
If she said fuck off all that'd happen is people would accuse her of being on her period. Instead she tried to change minds and got shat on for that too. It's almost like you can't win.
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I think those youtube posters are absolute morons but I just don't get what would make her case special compared to the mindless hate everyone else gets on the internet? It's one of the ugly sides of the internet but just deal with it like the rest of us
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On May 02 2013 19:41 QuackPocketDuck wrote:
It seems hip to be fighting various issues these days. why can't people just live their lives and lead by example
if they are decent then the people around them are also influenced in a good way and if they don't care possibly issues are not important enough for others, but no they want to force everyone to be like them.
wow one good post in the whole thread. props to you 
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On May 02 2013 19:52 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:49 Nausea wrote:
I like how one in this thread called this "attention seeking blog". Ah the sexism shines through like a bright light.. Can you tell me any blog you can point to that is not in its nature attention seeking. I think if you post anything on the internet you are attention seeking. Wow look at all the news posts on this site, how attention seeking. I liked your attention seeking post btw. But as a women when she speaks she speaks purely to get male attention because she's overreacting. Literally the response in this topic.
Getting male attention? I think she gets that on a regular basis anyway.
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On May 02 2013 19:52 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:49 Nausea wrote:
I like how one in this thread called this "attention seeking blog". Ah the sexism shines through like a bright light.. Can you tell me any blog you can point to that is not in its nature attention seeking. I think if you post anything on the internet you are attention seeking. Wow look at all the news posts on this site, how attention seeking. I liked your attention seeking post btw. But as a women when she speaks she speaks purely to get male attention because she's overreacting. Literally the response in this topic.
I was expecting more from you KwarK. But if you're going to turn this into a circle jerk of "feminism is right" without bringing any semblance of an argument that pertains to the case in question, and not some vague "woman have it rough irl" that isn't even relevant, I'll just concede and find something better to do with my time.
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On May 02 2013 19:52 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:49 Nausea wrote:
I like how one in this thread called this "attention seeking blog". Ah the sexism shines through like a bright light.. Can you tell me any blog you can point to that is not in its nature attention seeking. I think if you post anything on the internet you are attention seeking. Wow look at all the news posts on this site, how attention seeking. I liked your attention seeking post btw. But as a women when she speaks she speaks purely to get male attention because she's overreacting. Literally the response in this topic.
What I find really funny about this kind of threads is that most people, in a vain attempt to prove a female author wrong, actually display the exact behaviours one could expect out a sexist community, trying to disqualify the author's opinion on the basis of "her not being a man, not being able to deal with it, and not just shutting her attention-whoring mouth".
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On May 02 2013 19:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:52 KwarK wrote:On May 02 2013 19:49 Nausea wrote:
I like how one in this thread called this "attention seeking blog". Ah the sexism shines through like a bright light.. Can you tell me any blog you can point to that is not in its nature attention seeking. I think if you post anything on the internet you are attention seeking. Wow look at all the news posts on this site, how attention seeking. I liked your attention seeking post btw. But as a women when she speaks she speaks purely to get male attention because she's overreacting. Literally the response in this topic. I was expecting more from you KwarK. But if you're going to turn this into a circle jerk of "feminism is right" without bringing any semblance of an argument that pertains to the case in question, and not some vague "woman have it rough irl" that isn't even relevant, I'll just concede and find something better to do with my time.
You're objectively wrong. The topic is better without more wrong on it. Feel free to leave.
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On May 02 2013 19:44 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 19:35 Goozen wrote:On May 02 2013 19:29 Velr wrote:On May 02 2013 19:21 Goozen wrote:
The only solution is remove anonymity, nothing else will work. The bottom line is that there are 2 kinds of people who obey the law. Those that who do it because its a law, and those who fear the punishment that they will receive from breaking it. As long as this vocal minority isn't forced to receive consequences for their action, they won't change.
And lets face it, it doesn't help that a fair number of women use their sexuality as a tool to gain benefits. Then there are teenagers (the main adience of stuff like this?) which often don't give a shit if there is no imminent/direct punishment... Which there never can and will be for stuff like this. These are not even "easy" cases... I mean, where do you draw the line between harsh criticism or some "vulgar language" and ILLEGAL sexism/harrasment? You would need to have a Judge reading over all this and decide case by case... Oh... And your on the Internet, that means these "offenders" can come from any country in the world, witch basically all have diffrent laws... If she (or anyone else) can't deal with it... Then don't do it. It's not like actors or other TV-Persons have it "better", they normally just don't read immediate chat feedback. Your going out there in front of a camera, you will gate rated, insulted and objectified... Deal with it. I know, thats the problem. There is no way to stop or prevent this, the most that can happen is that moderates remove comments and ban people from youtube. But lets face it, i doubt that will happen also. Saying "if you can't deal with it, don't do it" is the wrong attitude. Using this logic the police can say "don't wear revealing/ provocative clothing if you don't want to get harassed". There is a problem, there simply isnt much we can do, but blaming her is not the correct action. I agree, blaming her is not the correct action. I personally am not blaming her for this happening, although I will blame her for being a hypocrite (see my other posts) and also for dealing with this in the completely wrong way. Ignore the trolls, get someone to ban/censor them for you, or smite them. Going public with this (as if it's a big deal, as if there aren't thousand of other YouTube and Twitch channels that deal with this shit just as much as her) and playing victim will NOT accomplish Anything AT ALL. EDIT: Or she can even realize that these trolls still contribute to her page views, video views, channel views etc and by commenting they push her videos higher up the YouTube ladder. So she's basically able to make more money thanks to this negative attention. Could probably try to exploit that instead of getting all pissy. You realise that women are trained from an early age not to cause a scene when men do things they're not comfortable. That it's just boys being boys and they should just put up with it, from leering to catcalling all the way up to harassment. That if a woman actually says "why don't you just fuck off" then suddenly she's hormonal, overreacting and a bitch. People blame women for rape when they don't fight enough or say "no" loudly enough and they call them attention seekers when they call out harassment. It's a no win situation.
Well, to be fair, the same goes for boys. Don't rock the boat, whatever your sex.
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On May 02 2013 19:53 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 19:44 KwarK wrote:On May 02 2013 19:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 19:35 Goozen wrote:On May 02 2013 19:29 Velr wrote:On May 02 2013 19:21 Goozen wrote:
The only solution is remove anonymity, nothing else will work. The bottom line is that there are 2 kinds of people who obey the law. Those that who do it because its a law, and those who fear the punishment that they will receive from breaking it. As long as this vocal minority isn't forced to receive consequences for their action, they won't change.
And lets face it, it doesn't help that a fair number of women use their sexuality as a tool to gain benefits. Then there are teenagers (the main adience of stuff like this?) which often don't give a shit if there is no imminent/direct punishment... Which there never can and will be for stuff like this. These are not even "easy" cases... I mean, where do you draw the line between harsh criticism or some "vulgar language" and ILLEGAL sexism/harrasment? You would need to have a Judge reading over all this and decide case by case... Oh... And your on the Internet, that means these "offenders" can come from any country in the world, witch basically all have diffrent laws... If she (or anyone else) can't deal with it... Then don't do it. It's not like actors or other TV-Persons have it "better", they normally just don't read immediate chat feedback. Your going out there in front of a camera, you will gate rated, insulted and objectified... Deal with it. I know, thats the problem. There is no way to stop or prevent this, the most that can happen is that moderates remove comments and ban people from youtube. But lets face it, i doubt that will happen also. Saying "if you can't deal with it, don't do it" is the wrong attitude. Using this logic the police can say "don't wear revealing/ provocative clothing if you don't want to get harassed". There is a problem, there simply isnt much we can do, but blaming her is not the correct action. I agree, blaming her is not the correct action. I personally am not blaming her for this happening, although I will blame her for being a hypocrite (see my other posts) and also for dealing with this in the completely wrong way. Ignore the trolls, get someone to ban/censor them for you, or smite them. Going public with this (as if it's a big deal, as if there aren't thousand of other YouTube and Twitch channels that deal with this shit just as much as her) and playing victim will NOT accomplish Anything AT ALL. EDIT: Or she can even realize that these trolls still contribute to her page views, video views, channel views etc and by commenting they push her videos higher up the YouTube ladder. So she's basically able to make more money thanks to this negative attention. Could probably try to exploit that instead of getting all pissy. You realise that women are trained from an early age not to cause a scene when men do things they're not comfortable. That it's just boys being boys and they should just put up with it, from leering to catcalling all the way up to harassment. That if a woman actually says "why don't you just fuck off" then suddenly she's hormonal, overreacting and a bitch. People blame women for rape when they don't fight enough or say "no" loudly enough and they call them attention seekers when they call out harassment. It's a no win situation. But she didn't say "why don't you just fuck off". She wrote a big, public piece on the issue that did very little to address the issue in any realistic fashion other than "oh this shouldn't be happening". And the way in which she was written, made her very much sound like a victim, instead of a belligerent "fuck you, you're retarded and i ain't puttin up with this shit no moar" kind of rant that someone like TotalBiscuit might have made. I agree that in real life things are more tricky, but don't forget this is the internet. Giving internet trolls attention, even taking the time to respond to them. let alone write a public article about them, is all they really want. Unless you're smacking them down assertively, it's best to just ignore them. And unlike real life, ignoring internet trolls is far easier, and censoring them is possible (whereas IRL you can't really stop people from voicing their opinion). So a comparison to real life is not really justified here. If she said fuck off all that'd happen is people would accuse her of being on her period. Instead she tried to change minds and got shat on for that too. It's almost like you can't win.
You can't. There is no conceivable instance in which one person can garner the attention of a relatively large mass of people (in this case, all of the people who have viewed her videos) and please every single one of them. This is true on a general level, not just in this case.
You cannot please everyone. So what's worse, being a hypocrite or being belligerent and "on her period"? That's for her to decide.
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On May 02 2013 19:56 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 19:52 KwarK wrote:On May 02 2013 19:49 Nausea wrote:
I like how one in this thread called this "attention seeking blog". Ah the sexism shines through like a bright light.. Can you tell me any blog you can point to that is not in its nature attention seeking. I think if you post anything on the internet you are attention seeking. Wow look at all the news posts on this site, how attention seeking. I liked your attention seeking post btw. But as a women when she speaks she speaks purely to get male attention because she's overreacting. Literally the response in this topic. I was expecting more from you KwarK. But if you're going to turn this into a circle jerk of "feminism is right" without bringing any semblance of an argument that pertains to the case in question, and not some vague "woman have it rough irl" that isn't even relevant, I'll just concede and find something better to do with my time. You're objectively wrong. The topic is better without more wrong on it. Feel free to leave.
Thanks for pointing out how I'm wrong with actual examples other than "you're wrong".
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On May 02 2013 19:53 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:48 Goozen wrote:On May 02 2013 19:44 edlover420 wrote:
KwarK you don't get it. Her complaining is the same as it would be if I complained for every time I get flamed after starcraft match by my opponent. It's pointless. Unless you hold her to the different standards because she's a female. Than you are the most sexist person here.
Also you're tone with idontthinksobro was extremely hateful and it's pretty uncalled for. You can't compare sexual harassment, even online to that of getting flamed at the end of a starcraft. The point is, had she been a man, this wouldn't happen, and its not fair that because she wants to do what she enjoys she should be assaulted because of her sex. Had she been a man, it would still happen, just not to the same extent or with the same choice of words. But the guy would probably not make the whole thing public or make a big deal out of it.
No, it would not happen because of gender. That is the difference, whether you want/are able to get it or not.
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On May 02 2013 19:39 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:36 nttea wrote:
Oh my god you guys are unbearable... Seriously a girl gets upset over trolls and you all get a stick up your ass over it, for every girl complaining about sexism there's like 20 dudes complaining about girls complaining over sexism. How about man up? Why is girls complaining about sexism so incredibly important an issue to you that you constantly have to point out how ridiculous you think they are? The replies to this topic so far have been pretty demoralising. Whenever a topic like this comes along I like teamliquid a little less.
I could not agree with both of these statements more.
In the first page of responses alone, there are so many of the standard sexist trope responses:
* She is attention seeking.
* I have it just as bad being a man, but I can't complain about it.
* Names don't bother me or some other random female I make up, therefore she should not be bothered either.
* Sexism doesn't exist.
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etc
It's impressive to me that she has the passion for games and such that she is willing to put up with all the bullshit and still produce content.
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On May 02 2013 19:57 DR.Ham wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:39 KwarK wrote:On May 02 2013 19:36 nttea wrote:
Oh my god you guys are unbearable... Seriously a girl gets upset over trolls and you all get a stick up your ass over it, for every girl complaining about sexism there's like 20 dudes complaining about girls complaining over sexism. How about man up? Why is girls complaining about sexism so incredibly important an issue to you that you constantly have to point out how ridiculous you think they are? The replies to this topic so far have been pretty demoralising. Whenever a topic like this comes along I like teamliquid a little less. I could not agree with both of these statements more. In the first page of responses alone, there are so many of the standard sexist trope responses: * She is attention seeking. * I have it just as bad being a man, but I can't complain about it. * Names don't bother me or some other random female I make up, therefore she should not be bothered either. * Sexism doesn't exist. etc etc etc It's impressive to me that she has the passion for games and such that she is willing to put up with all the bullshit and still produce content.
Can you refute any of that beyond just calling it wrong and sexist? Much appreciated.
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On May 02 2013 19:53 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:48 Goozen wrote:On May 02 2013 19:44 edlover420 wrote:
KwarK you don't get it. Her complaining is the same as it would be if I complained for every time I get flamed after starcraft match by my opponent. It's pointless. Unless you hold her to the different standards because she's a female. Than you are the most sexist person here.
Also you're tone with idontthinksobro was extremely hateful and it's pretty uncalled for. You can't compare sexual harassment, even online to that of getting flamed at the end of a starcraft. The point is, had she been a man, this wouldn't happen, and its not fair that because she wants to do what she enjoys she should be assaulted because of her sex. Had she been a man, it would still happen, just not to the same extent or with the same choice of words. But the guy would probably not make the whole thing public or make a big deal out of it.
Thats the point though, not only would there be a lot less, but also it would be of different nature. There is a reason calling someone "ugly" won't really get you in trouble but sexual harassment will. Also don't be sexiest and say "a guy wouldn't make a big deal of it" plenty of guys do.
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On May 02 2013 19:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:56 KwarK wrote:On May 02 2013 19:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 19:52 KwarK wrote:On May 02 2013 19:49 Nausea wrote:
I like how one in this thread called this "attention seeking blog". Ah the sexism shines through like a bright light.. Can you tell me any blog you can point to that is not in its nature attention seeking. I think if you post anything on the internet you are attention seeking. Wow look at all the news posts on this site, how attention seeking. I liked your attention seeking post btw. But as a women when she speaks she speaks purely to get male attention because she's overreacting. Literally the response in this topic. I was expecting more from you KwarK. But if you're going to turn this into a circle jerk of "feminism is right" without bringing any semblance of an argument that pertains to the case in question, and not some vague "woman have it rough irl" that isn't even relevant, I'll just concede and find something better to do with my time. You're objectively wrong. The topic is better without more wrong on it. Feel free to leave. Thanks for pointing out how I'm wrong with actual examples other than "you're wrong".
I didn't see the point if you were already passive aggressively leaving.
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I think the problem is that she took youtube comments seriously. I mean people on youtube will make any type of shitty comments, not just related to sexism. Every now and then, you see someone posting pro-racist comments and other things that would normally be offensive.
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On May 02 2013 19:57 DR.Ham wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 19:39 KwarK wrote:On May 02 2013 19:36 nttea wrote:
Oh my god you guys are unbearable... Seriously a girl gets upset over trolls and you all get a stick up your ass over it, for every girl complaining about sexism there's like 20 dudes complaining about girls complaining over sexism. How about man up? Why is girls complaining about sexism so incredibly important an issue to you that you constantly have to point out how ridiculous you think they are? The replies to this topic so far have been pretty demoralising. Whenever a topic like this comes along I like teamliquid a little less. I could not agree with both of these statements more. In the first page of responses alone, there are so many of the standard sexist trope responses: * She is attention seeking. * I have it just as bad being a man, but I can't complain about it. * Names don't bother me or some other random female I make up, therefore she should not be bothered either. * Sexism doesn't exist. etc etc etc It's impressive to me that she has the passion for games and such that she is willing to put up with all the bullshit and still produce content.
What people do not also realize is that feminism is not about THREATENING MEN. It's about asking for gender not being a valid basis for prejudice, may it be for men and women. Feminism is also realizing men do not have to "man up" all the time, and have the right to display interest in things that are not "manly". Do you feel comfortable being around jocks constantly reminding you that you are not a real man because you do not watch sports, or workout, or that videogames are for sissies? Then congratulation, you are in some way a feminist. Stop pretending these things do not exist.
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